thegaffa Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 3 minutes ago, Fox92 said: That was my point. He'll leave eventually, but for a bigger club than us. He'll probably play for England one day. I can see him as a replacement for van dijk at Southampton when he leaves in the summer . i agree he will end up playing for England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 Jonny Evans is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 Keane would still come if we offered him £60,000 a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4DD0gg Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 We missed the chance with this guy in the summer. Should have paid what Bumley wanted albeit via addons over time. This guy would have added god knows how many points to our measly total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Walsh5 Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 11 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Keane would still come if we offered him £60,000 a week Got to get a bid accepted first. We're probably looking at £30m+ for him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 25 minutes ago, foxes21 said: Jonny Evans is better I like him too, very good defender who works well in an organised defensive unit. West Brom aren't as defensive as they used to be, Pulis has added quality going forward hence their current position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 49 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Keane would still come if we offered him £60,000 a week Probably its all about the money usually to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 2 hours ago, AKCJ said: You honestly think that Middlesbrough are on the same level as us? I thought you were joking I'm not suggesting that we're on the same level as the top, top clubs but we're certainly on the same level as the likes of West Ham, Everton and Southampton and definitely a step up from MIddlesbrough We're not though. We should be with the title win but I'm not sure we are. This is what's getting us all so frustrated. I do think we're a bigger pull than Middlesbrough but Gibson is the chairman's son isn't he? I can't see him turning his back on Middlesbrough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 3 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: We're not though. We should be with the title win but I'm not sure we are. This is what's getting us all so frustrated. I do think we're a bigger pull than Middlesbrough but Gibson is the chairman's son isn't he? I can't see him turning his back on Middlesbrough for us. Gibson isn't coming here, nor can I see him ever leaving Middlesbrough. He'll move for a proper big club but while Middlesbrough are in the Premier League he'll stay there. But to anyone else, we're a much more attractive club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 Similarly to Sigurdsson, Burnley & Middlesbrough would both be insane to sell us their best defenders. I think the point is... if all three of us went for a player, I'd back us to get them. But are we a big enough pull to get their top player off them when it's likely someone like Liverpool comes in for them? I'll be genuinely amazed if we sign either and if we do I'll be having money on whichever one we sign's old club to go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 3 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Similarly to Sigurdsson, Burnley & Middlesbrough would both be insane to sell us their best defenders. I think the point is... if all three of us went for a player, I'd back us to get them. But are we a big enough pull to get their top player off them when it's likely someone like Liverpool comes in for them? I'll be genuinely amazed if we sign either and if we do I'll be having money on whichever one we sign's old club to go down. That's pretty much irrelevant to the discussion. We're not a bigger pull than the likes of Liverpool or Spurs. Weren't in the summer, wouldn't be now even if we were in say 5th or 6th - even if we'd kept up from last season, we'd be an unknown, those sorts of sides are in the hunt for Europe on a consistent basis. What we are though, is bigger than Middlesbrough, and calling us a sideways step from them is laughable. Gibson won't come here, but that's because they're his boyhood club, and owned by a relative, not because it's a sideways move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 6 hours ago, dylanlegend said: Cos Boro actually look like winning a game of football They've won 2 in their last 8, both coming at home against the two worst sides in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 4 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: Similarly to Sigurdsson, Burnley & Middlesbrough would both be insane to sell us their best defenders. I think the point is... if all three of us went for a player, I'd back us to get them. But are we a big enough pull to get their top player off them when it's likely someone like Liverpool comes in for them? I'll be genuinely amazed if we sign either and if we do I'll be having money on whichever one we sign's old club to go down. I wouldn't say that about Boro. I think they've got enough about them and would be able to sign a decent defender. But if Burnley lose Keane then relegation is all tied up. Them, Hull and Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 36 minutes ago, The Doctor said: That's pretty much irrelevant to the discussion. We're not a bigger pull than the likes of Liverpool or Spurs. Weren't in the summer, wouldn't be now even if we were in say 5th or 6th - even if we'd kept up from last season, we'd be an unknown, those sorts of sides are in the hunt for Europe on a consistent basis. What we are though, is bigger than Middlesbrough, and calling us a sideways step from them is laughable. Gibson won't come here, but that's because they're his boyhood club, and owned by a relative, not because it's a sideways move. Delusions of grandeur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 2 minutes ago, toddybad said: Delusions of grandeur Think about what you're saying! We're Champions of England and in the last 16 of the Champions League. Middlesbrough are in their best position for about 7 years and it's one point above us. Were Stoke a bigger pull than Chelsea in the summer? Just because we're going through an awful spell of form (1 win in 9) does not suddenly mean we'll be competing with the likes of Hull, Boro and Swansea for players in January. That reads as big headedness but it's absolutely true. I wish Leicester fans weren't so miserable about our fortunes these days. We're in a phenomenal position as a club, the best we've ever been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 10 minutes ago, toddybad said: Delusions of grandeur not really delusions of grandeur to think we're bigger than a side with 5 trophies (4 second tier titles, 1 league cup) in 140 odd years. Any one expecting us to be regulars in Europe and on the scale of a Liverpool or Spurs because of last season has is deluded, but thinking that we're a bit bigger than Middlesbrough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972 Fox Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 34 minutes ago, AKCJ said: They've won 2 in their last 8, both coming at home against the two worst sides in the league. Make that 3 wins out of 10 for Boro on Monday by beating another of the worst sides in the league (I'll add - on current form). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 Not sure where else Keane could go? Utd are well stocked in that department, so are Arsenal and Spurs. Not sure he's good enough for a top 4 side anyway (is he a staunch Utd fan? Could rule out City and Liverpool if they did deem him a target). I guess Everton could do with him, but are they that more attractive than us? Bear in mind he's been here before with many of the current squad. I don't think he's that unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 We shouldn't just knock on the door to get Burnley to accept our offer... we should only go and blow the bloody doors off to get their attention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 1 hour ago, AKCJ said: Think about what you're saying! We're Champions of England and in the last 16 of the Champions League. Middlesbrough are in their best position for about 7 years and it's one point above us. Were Stoke a bigger pull than Chelsea in the summer? Just because we're going through an awful spell of form (1 win in 9) does not suddenly mean we'll be competing with the likes of Hull, Boro and Swansea for players in January. That reads as big headedness but it's absolutely true. I wish Leicester fans weren't so miserable about our fortunes these days. We're in a phenomenal position as a club, the best we've ever been. They were out of the prem for many less years than us and reached a european final last time they were up. Last year bought us respect but this season's collapse back to type means we'll be seen back in the pack of wannabees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 3 minutes ago, toddybad said: They were out of the prem for many less years than us and reached a european final last time they were up. Last year bought us respect but this season's collapse back to type means we'll be seen back in the pack of wannabees. Christ. Would it kill you to enjoy being Champions of England and in the last 16 of the Champions League? Middlesbrough fans would kill to be in our position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 If we signed Keane and a decent centre mid I'd start being excited about us again. Don't know whyour we're after another striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 2 hours ago, AKCJ said: Think about what you're saying! We're Champions of England and in the last 16 of the Champions League. Middlesbrough are in their best position for about 7 years and it's one point above us. Were Stoke a bigger pull than Chelsea in the summer? Just because we're going through an awful spell of form (1 win in 9) does not suddenly mean we'll be competing with the likes of Hull, Boro and Swansea for players in January. That reads as big headedness but it's absolutely true. I wish Leicester fans weren't so miserable about our fortunes these days. We're in a phenomenal position as a club, the best we've ever been. Amen. People always choose to see/fear the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmarteyAndChill Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 Burnley are above us and look like staying up. Why would they let their best centre back leave the club? And more importantly why would he leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 29 December 2016 Share Posted 29 December 2016 11 hours ago, The Doctor said: That's pretty much irrelevant to the discussion. We're not a bigger pull than the likes of Liverpool or Spurs. Weren't in the summer, wouldn't be now even if we were in say 5th or 6th - even if we'd kept up from last season, we'd be an unknown, those sorts of sides are in the hunt for Europe on a consistent basis. What we are though, is bigger than Middlesbrough, and calling us a sideways step from them is laughable. Gibson won't come here, but that's because they're his boyhood club, and owned by a relative, not because it's a sideways move. Regardless of who is the bigger club, both us and Middlesbrough aspire to the same thing - a good cup run and hopefully stay up. That's why it's a sideways move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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