Fox 4 Life Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 May aswell lock this up, no way they sell to us if we are cock blocking them on the Ulloa deal, especially when we keep calling them rivals!
st albans fox Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, Fox 4 Life said: May aswell lock this up, no way the sell to us if we are cock blocking them on the Ulloa deal true enough but a release clause is a release clause last day so they can stall it enough unless we let them have Leo
MikeyT Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 minute ago, Fox 4 Life said: May aswell lock this up, no way the sell to us if we are cock blocking them on the Ulloa deal Kone has a release clause of £18 million, so surely that means he can speak to anyone including us
STUHILL Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Is Kone actually any good? 18 Million good?? He is playing in the worst team in the League and cost £5million 1 year ago. Not paid much attention to him. Anyone been impressed by him over the last year?
foxy boxing Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 no way for 18 million, way too much for somebody from Sunderland!
Dr The Singh Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Kone will go to the highest wage bidder!! At £18million, he is a typical January signing, a tad expensive, but clubs like us do need defensive cover and are willing to pay! I'm thinking Palace will get him!
SheppyFox Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 4 minutes ago, STUHILL said: Is Kone actually any good? 18 Million good?? He is playing in the worst team in the League and cost £5million 1 year ago. Not paid much attention to him. Anyone been impressed by him over the last year? A lot said he was a major part of their survival and apparently they only looked capable of survival once he'd arrived
ramboacdc Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, Dr The Singh said: Kone will go to the highest wage bidder!! At £18million, he is a typical January signing, a tad expensive, but clubs like us do need defensive cover and are willing to pay! I'm thinking Palace will get him! they paid 12m for schlupp...so either money to burn or pants on head retarded.
Rusko187 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 3 minutes ago, STUHILL said: Is Kone actually any good? 18 Million good?? He is playing in the worst team in the League and cost £5million 1 year ago. Not paid much attention to him. Anyone been impressed by him over the last year? If he improves on what we have than the question is how much do we value that? 27 years old, a good CB is a rarity these days and I think with a good unit around him he would be a solid CB. Pair him alongside Huth and see what happens.
Rusko187 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, STUHILL said: Sakho > Kone Would prefer both tbh lol, whole new back line
SecretPro Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, Rusko187 said: Would prefer both tbh lol, whole new back line Id take both, Huth and Wes both need replacing
STUHILL Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, Rusko187 said: Would prefer both tbh lol, whole new back line It's what needed, especially if Wague has been brought in to be a RB. I wish we would sign a genuine RB though who could actually offer something in attack, with overlaps and decent crosses. Claudio seems set on these RB/CB hybrids!
ramboacdc Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 16 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said: May aswell lock this up, no way they sell to us if we are cock blocking them on the Ulloa deal, especially when we keep calling them rivals! but where would the fun be in that?!
Dr The Singh Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 minute ago, ramboacdc said: they paid 12m for schlupp...so either money to burn or pants on head retarded. Big Sam has never got a club relegated, CP's defense is just a leaky as ours, so he will be pushing to get the players he believes he needs at any cost!!! Were not too far off, if Morgan or Huth were injured, we would be paying massively over the odds also!
st albans fox Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 3 minutes ago, STUHILL said: Sakho > Kone Sakho wages >>>>> kone wages
Rusko187 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 To me it's so clear, we have 2 out of form CBs and 1 unhappy Striker. Cash and swap deal for Kone than go for Sakho with cash saved from swap deal. All be under 30m which was our target, we than have a younger and potentially better back 2 to blood into the squad.
SheppyFox Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 No brainer isn't it really, we've got something they want, accept their bid for Ulloa on the terms they'll reject palace and accept our new improved Rudkin special offer of 13.5m
MPH Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 If we truly want Kone, we would be MAD not to include an unhappy striker that they want who has refused to play for us again into the deal to offset some costs... Then again, this is Leicester City...
Rusko187 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 2 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: No brainer isn't it really, we've got something they want, accept their bid for Ulloa on the terms they'll reject palace and accept our new improved Rudkin special offer of 13.5m Hoping Moyes has got the crayons out trying to explain this to Rudkin. Moyes: You have Ulloa who we want. We have Kone which you want, you give us Ulloa + £xm and the deal is done. Rudkin: £5m cash for Kone only! Moyes:
Babylon Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Only £18m cash will meet the clause.... if they DON'T want to lose him, then it's no good. Would have to be two separate deals, we get their cash then bid the full amount, to make sure they have no say in it.
STUHILL Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 minute ago, Rusko187 said: To me it's so clear, we have 2 out of form CBs and 1 unhappy Striker. Cash and swap deal for Kone than go for Sakho with cash saved from swap deal. All be under 30m which was our target, we than have a younger and potentially better back 2 to blood into the squad. We are still a striker down though and an important one, as with Slimani injured, we have no striker who can hold the ball up or win headers. Claudio knows this and it is why he says that Ulloa is not leaving. I think if we want Kone, we just trigger the buy out clause. If we think that is wel overpriced, then we offer 18m for Sakho or we pay the 13 million to get Mbodji. I think any deal, where we end up a striker down, is not the best deal for us, not to mention we are strengthening a rival, when we don't need to. We may as well pay the release clause and weaken them.
Rusko187 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, Babylon said: Only £18m cash will meet the clause.... if they DON'T want to lose him, then it's no good. Would have to be two separate deals, we get their cash then bid the full amount, to make sure they have no say in it. True, pay the release clause, get him snapped up and tell Sunderland he's yours for 10m.
Rusko187 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 minute ago, STUHILL said: We are still a striker down though and an important one, as with Slimani injured, we have no striker who can hold the ball up or win headers. Claudio knows this and it is why he says that Ulloa is not leaving. I think if we want Kone, we just trigger the buy out clause. If we think that is wel overpriced, then we offer 18m for Sakho or we pay the 13 million to get Mbodji. I think any deal, where we end up a striker down, is not the best deal for us, not to mention we are strengthening a rival, when we don't need to. We may as well pay the release clause and weaken them. He's gone out in public telling everyone he won't play for us.... so we're a striker down already. Why not make a bit of cash on him and use him to bargain a desirable solution to a bigger problem we have which is leaking goals.
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