adam Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 4 minutes ago, foxhateram said: Ffs I'm not obsessed with him. I just happen to believe he has the right persona for our current situation. Your lack of respect for the man who took us from our lowest ebbs as a football club to some of the best memories we have ever had is quite unbelievable. Other managers who would be suitable and in the same sort or mould would be Nigel Adkins, Mark Warburton, Brendan Rogers etc. Someone who is fantastic at man managing and progressing talented young players. That is firm enough with them to keep their feet on the ground but has a bond with the squad that spreads confidence and togetherness. (Obviously non of those would come to us, they are just examples.) Monk would be another good shout. Or Phil Brown or Chris Houghton. Maybe even Chris Powell. Phil Brown to the rescue.
Foxhateram Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, smudger63 said: Not true. When he first adopted the five at the back, he had Simpson and Konchesky as full backs, and intentional or not, it ended up as a back five. It was only when he put DeLaet and Schlupp in, to actually play with more attacking intent, that things changed. Of course, it we had hit shit or bust time by then. In all fairness then you may well be right. But the intention was to have overlapping full backs and there shouldn't have been any reason why those players couldn't do that, in fact Konchesky was quite good at getting forward and popping up with assists and goals (remember that awesome Konchesky strike? I forget who it was against, possibly Liverpool?) It was all part of adopting the new formation and new system. You are absolutely right that it was Schlupp and De Leat who made the difference to the formation working in the end. I think that was a good move by the management team. Talking about Schlupp, he's another one who was poorly treated this season. I think we will miss him.
Foxhateram Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 4 minutes ago, adam said: Phil Brown to the rescue. Your just purposefully being obtuse now. I'm guessing by your stance that you feel Ranieri will turn it around...? So offer an argument to support that belief.
UPinCarolina Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Quite frankly, they should all be f**king ashamed - getting more angry as it sinks in.
adam Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 minute ago, foxhateram said: Your just purposefully being obtuse now. I'm guessing by your stance that you feel Ranieri will turn it around...? So offer an argument to support that belief. Absolutely not. I think he should be sacked. Give someone like rowett a go.
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 hour ago, FoxFossil said: Be astonished if we don't lose 8-0 to Savilla..all very depressing. They have played well in the CL don't be surprised if they play like last season against savilla
Foxhateram Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, adam said: Absolutely not. I think he should be sacked. Give someone like rowett a go. Gary Rowett? Interesting.... Why do you feel he woukd be a good replacement?
adam Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Young, ambitious, probably got something to prove. If ranieri was sacked I imagine he wouldn't get a look in though.
Rigga Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 2 minutes ago, Johnthefoxrayner said: They have played well in the CL don't be surprised if they play like last season against savilla We really have not played well in the CL...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 3 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said: Quite frankly, they should all be f**king ashamed - getting more angry as it sinks in. So am I mate. They are embarrassing 6 minutes ago, foxhateram said: In all fairness then you may well be right. But the intention was to have overlapping full backs and there shouldn't have been any reason why those players couldn't do that, in fact Konchesky was quite good at getting forward and popping up with assists and goals (remember that awesome Konchesky strike? I forget who it was against, possibly Liverpool?) It was all part of adopting the new formation and new system. You are absolutely right that it was Schlupp and De Leat who made the difference to the formation working in the end. I think that was a good move by the management team. Talking about Schlupp, he's another one who was poorly treated this season. I think we will miss him. Totally agree with you. I liked Schulp
smr Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 hour ago, AmarteyAndChill said: Cya Claudio It's not all about Claudio.... it's the players who aren't performing. look at conte, blitzing this league in his first season here, claudio owning it last season... it's all about the players and he has tried how many formations and player selections to get things to work but the players just aren't performing. Around the 70-80 minute mark today after they had a barrage of attempts on our goal and were throwing everything at us, we get on somewhat of a counter, shinji picks the ball up in open space in the center of the pitch with options left right and ahead of him, all easy passes... he just runs into a defender really clumsily and loses the ball, all he had to do was pick a pass to riyad and we'd would've been off up the pitch. That sums us up, just really stupid clumsy play, there's no confidence, grit or any footballing ability in our team at the moment. I don't see it being Ranieri at fault for that, the players look like they don't care, like they've achieved what they needed to or something. It amazes me how much of a contrast our league performance has been compared to our CL games. It's like we're another team completely in the CL but in the premier league the players are playing at championship level. They all need a good kick up the arse... maybe that's where Claudio needs to step in.
smudger63 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 4 minutes ago, foxhateram said: In all fairness then you may well be right. But the intention was to have overlapping full backs and there shouldn't have been any reason why those players couldn't do that, in fact Konchesky was quite good at getting forward and popping up with assists and goals (remember that awesome Konchesky strike? I forget who it was against, possibly Liverpool?) It was all part of adopting the new formation and new system. You are absolutely right that it was Schlupp and De Leat who made the difference to the formation working in the end. I think that was a good move by the management team. Talking about Schlupp, he's another one who was poorly treated this season. I think we will miss him. To be fair, Schlupp when played this season, looked like a player who`s heart was set on a move away. Whether that was down to West Brom coming in for him in the summer, or due to some possible personal difficulties, probably only he knows.
Foxhateram Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Just now, smudger63 said: To be fair, Schlupp when played this season, looked like a player who`s heart was set on a move away. Whether that was down to West Brom coming in for him in the summer, or due to some possible personal difficulties, probably only he knows. Agreed but why didn't we manage this more effectively? He should have been given more first team football after playing a reasonable role in the team last year. But out of form players like Musa were contuing to be picked ahead of him. If i was on the bench like Schlupp and Gray are and Musa kept being picked ahead of me I would be absolutely miffed. Likewisr with poor Ulloa being left on the bench for a horrifically out of form Vardy and a slow starter in Slimani (His first touch is really questionable).
smudger63 Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 3 minutes ago, Johnthefoxrayner said: They have played well in the CL don't be surprised if they play like last season against savilla Do you think so, personally I think it`s a bit of a myth, us playing well in the Champions League. I thought we were excellent in Brugge, but fairly ordinary in the home games with Porto and Copenhagen, but got the wins. Then we were shocking in Copenhagen but managed a bore draw, played pretty well first half at home to Brugge, but then were holding on in the second half, and the less said about the game in Porto the better!
smr Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 schlupps doggo though, no end product, he can run at defenders but then doesn't know how to pass or score and his defensive abilities aren't exactly stellar. we did good business with palace.
Nickfosse Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 1 hour ago, blueharmie said: Dyche is a gravell throated Twatish bald ginger **** flap. Yes, who on a fraction of our transfer budget, and an even smaller fraction of our wages outlay, has beaten us tonight.
smr Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 His voice irritates the bejeezus out of me but tbf they probably deserved a win tonight. Infact given how shit we were im amazed they didnt score more. But it wasnt for lack of trying.. when they put the attempts graphic up and it said something like 23 for them i knew theyd score.. diminishing returns and all that. At least he doesnt play utter borefest football like pulis trying to construct a human wall of defenders. but another thing thats really grating on me now is how our players seem to treat the match like an attack vs defense training game. Patting heads here as balls are put out of touch for corners or throwins... its like our defense is content to just sit back and have teams try tirelessly to score to see how many of our egos can be stroked as another worldie block is put in. Wheres the attititude for winning football games gone?
Mythyaar Posted 31 January 2017 Posted 31 January 2017 Drinkwater inexpicably bottling that 50 50 challenge second half. That was our season summed up right there.
ScouseFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 that was fu cking shite. ndidi probs 5 maybe 6/10, it'd be rude to give anyone else on the pitch in blue a rating at all. they all owe kasper a pint for being first one over to the fans at the end and getting a ripple of appreciative applause going. if wes had grown some balls and turned round before kasper started clapping us i think he'd have taken 1500 wooden chairs to the head.
coolcol Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 2 hours ago, kristianity77 said: Quite simply, he HAS to go or else we are going down! So where is the players responsibility in all this ??
Dan Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 We need a minor miracle to survive, and a total rebuild - starting with the manager, director of football and the head of recruitment. Thanks for the memories Claudio, but this is a sinking ship and I'm not prepared to accept years of potential financial ruin for this. Rudkin needs to get out. Absolute ****ing garbage. Macia - is that the best you have? Time to ****ing shoot.
yorkie1999 Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 What a fvckin joke. 300 miles in the pissing rain, half a day off work, diverted half way round Manchester, didn't get any food or drink for what. To see that shower of shit play Sunday morning football with super scmiechal tryin to find the smallest player on the pitch with constant hoof ball. Fvckin disgrace, never again. And what we got to look forward to, fvckin vardy and his chavy face slapped all over ok magazine. They don't even have to bother about their stock going down cos they're stuck on obscene wages and no other club's going to want them. And how the fvck anyone can say that clueless Claudio guided us to a premier league title is beyond me. The bloke is the jammyest got walking on this planet
Suggy fox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Just got back from game. Very disappointing and don't want to Claudio bash but ,all second half we were getting outfought and what seemed like an endless stream of corners and not winning any headers from them so rather than try and help an overworked defence we end up with vardy musa mahrez and Okazaki on the pitch. Made us So lightweight and just couldn't hold out. Actually thought the defence did okay under all the pressure ( huth looked all over the place) but they must have been looking to the bench for some support and on comes musa and Okazaki ????. I don't think it was just me who saw what was going on , what was Claudio watching ? Anyway mini rant over ,up the city and thanks for listening !
Wizerud Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Watched the game on my phone at work and fvck me I wish I hadn't bothered. The only thing surprising about Burnley scoring was that it took so long. I'm not sure I put it down to a lack of effort, but what effort there is is being expended inefficiently. We look panicky, slow and disorganised in defense. Morgan is not a leader. He's not even the leader of our defence. Morgan on the bench for a while, Kasper the acting if not permanent captain. Offensively, our plan A is to hoof it up to Vardy in the vain ****ing hope he manages to latch onto one and puts it away like he was doing all last season. Which he hasn't done at all this season. Are our players incapable of stringing a few passes together? They all look worried to get the ball apart from Mahrez who just gives it away anyway. Last season it wasn't just hoofball. There were passages of play in the majority of games last season where we showed we could play direct, flowing football. We're going down unless we change something. I still think Claudio deserves a full season after winning us the league last year, no matter how much or little his hand played a part in that (vs Pearson). But if he gets what he deserves, so will we by going down. So if they do sack Claudio, Rowett in. He's Howe Mk II. And I mean that in a good way. Claudio is right about one thing. Everything is wrong.
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