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2 hours ago, foxhateram said:

In all fairness then you may well be right. But the intention was to have overlapping full backs and there shouldn't have been any reason why those players couldn't do that, in fact Konchesky was quite good at getting forward and popping up with assists and goals  (remember that awesome Konchesky strike? I forget who it was against, possibly Liverpool?) It was all part of adopting the new formation and new system. You are absolutely right that it was Schlupp and De Leat who made the difference to the formation working in the end. I think that was a good move by the management team.

 

Talking about Schlupp, he's another one who was poorly treated this season. I think we will miss him. 

We have missed him - the Schlupp who was in the right frame of mind - and for exactly the reasons outlined here on many occasions. 

Schluipp was so quick, strong and dangerous he had to be marked whatever his end product and that often took the attention of two men leaving space elsewhere.

 

Couple that with people like Mahrez and Vardy needing to be marked at the time and teams who tried to attack us left themselves seriously vulnerable.

 

All that disappeared with the disgruntlement that has replaced our euphoria and the often thoughtless changes that left good players sidelined.

 

And once the pace and threat of those players evaporated or moved elsewhere opponents could commit more players forward to attack us without risk and with the almost inevitable result that our defence would feel the pressure and concede more goals, especially without Kante.

 

It's not hard to work out but the consequences are showing signs of being catastrophic. No way were people like Gray and Kapustka good enough to replace Schlupp or an off-form Mahrez. And it was naive to think they would. They don't have the pace or strength and Gray, like the genuinely promising Chilwell, still has so much to learn and improve on.  

 

     

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Thracian said:

We have missed him - the Schlupp who was in the right frame of mind - and for exactly the reasons outlined here on many occasions. 

Schluipp was so quick, strong and dangerous he had to be marked whatever his end product and that often took the attention of two men leaving space elsewhere.

 

Couple that with people like Mahrez and Vardy needing to be marked at the time and teams who tried to attack us left themselves seriously vulnerable.

 

All that disappeared with the disgruntlement that has replaced our euphoria and the often thoughtless changes that left good players sidelined.

 

And once the pace and threat of those players evaporated or moved elsewhere opponents could commit more players forward to attack us without risk and with the almost inevitable result that our defence would feel the pressure and concede more goals, especially without Kante.

 

It's not hard to work out but the consequences are showing signs of being catastrophic. No way were people like Gray and Kapustka good enough to replace Schlupp or an off-form Mahrez. And it was naive to think they would. They don't have the pace or strength and Gray, like the genuinely promising Chilwell, still has so much to learn and improve on.  

 

     

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Agree with this. I think Jeff could still have been moulded into a steady LB. 

Posted

One of the worst games of football I have seen in a long time and deserved to lose.  Burnley should have had a penno too for the Drinkwater foul.  

 

On to us: We can't string 3 passes together, we can clear the ball properly, we hit hopeless long balls straight to the opposition defence.  Look at Barton today, we made him look good.  No pressure on him, and he just stroked it around like a training session.

 

Massive changes needed - this counter hoof crap isn't working so let's try something different.  Over the top to teams expecting over the top is not working.  

 

Whoever said I was wrong for comparing this Holloway football can do one.  We play like we are under him, the manager's interviews after the games are like under him, and we may go down like under him.

Guest seanfox778
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It's just like Rocky III, Rocky had unexpectedly won the title and got all the fame and fortune. He started training nonchalantly and not taking the sport seriously anymore. Then he came up against Clubber Lang who had a real drive and determination about him. He absolutely destroyed Rocky and his confidence was shattered. So it's pretty simple, we need a copy of Survivors greatest hits and Apollo Creed needs to be appointed manager as soon as possible. 

Posted
5 hours ago, AjcW said:

I usually get angry about decisions. But they deserved that, they'd have deserved it if he'd punched the ****er in... we make our own issues, we could have even defended that corner better.

 

Burnley were organised and excellent, Barton MOTM was spot on.

 

No idea what we do... getting rid of Claudio would be incredibly harsh but the style of football, or lack there of, is what has to change. 

That's what gets me too. We've been ****ed over in the last few minutes and I genuinely don't feel a jot of injustice. That sums up how I feel about us at the minute.

 

We're a sinking ship.

Posted
47 minutes ago, HoustonFox said:

One of the worst games of football I have seen in a long time and deserved to lose.  Burnley should have had a penno too for the Drinkwater foul.  

 

On to us: We can't string 3 passes together, we can clear the ball properly, we hit hopeless long balls straight to the opposition defence.  Look at Barton today, we made him look good.  No pressure on him, and he just stroked it around like a training session.

 

Massive changes needed - this counter hoof crap isn't working so let's try something different.  Over the top to teams expecting over the top is not working.  

 

Whoever said I was wrong for comparing this Holloway football can do one.  We play like we are under him, the manager's interviews after the games are like under him, and we may go down like under him.

Stole my thunder! It could well end up as a "too good to go down" Holloway-esque season although if we do then I'm sure it won't be with just a -3 goal diff. this time like it was under Holloway! However this season ends up though then that 2007-08 season really should remain as the worst season in Leicester's history. The odd thing is that it was the reverse that season as there was a lot of instability in the managerial stakes of course (under the awkward Mandaric's overall rule) and in many ways Holloway ended up as the whipping boy (having left a successful Plymouth side behind for us of course). This season it's player unrest that has been the root of our problems rather than having three different managers in one season! Even so, this season could sort of eclipse that in many ways IF the worst does happen and we get relegated - purely because we're existing Champions! It would be unthinkable but certainly not beyond the realms of possibility at this rate. The rewriting of the record books for all the wrong reasons it would be this time, just one season on from our finest ever! How this would then affect next season and then the future of the club is anybody's guess. Leeds have never been the same since they won the top flight league title and anybody over 35 will probably remember they finished 17th in 1993 a year after winning the top flight the previous 1991-92 season!   

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God we are dogshit! How did it ever come to this? Sick of watching almost every other PL team make us look like a League 1 outfit.

 

Claudio tried just about every combination with the players he had, but the theme remained the same - hoof it up field to their defenders, watch it come back, defend desperately for a while, rinse and repeat.

 

Yes I know their goal shouldn't have been allowed, but on balance they deserved the win, particularly with the Drinkwater penalty that wasn't given.

 

Sorry Claudio, something isn't right. The players we have should be able to do better than this. Something has to change.

 

I just hope I can still watch them next season. Not so easy to see Championship matches here in Oz, but I know they broadcast at least some of them. Really can't see us surviving in the PL.

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we were crap and made them look tremendous at times.

 

The only one for me that showed was Ndidi with his long legs continually retrieving the ball and then usually finding a blue shirt.

 

As they trooped off at the end I couldn't help feel that it just didn't seem to hurt them enough. Certainly not as much as it hurt me who had a crap drive 150 drive through the night(tyre blew as well).

 

They look to have gone soft and that includes Vardy and Drinkwater. Morgan and Huth were statues at times with their attempts at clearing their lines embarrassing,

 

Albrighton tries hard but he was crap as well. Mahrez looks an absolute shadow although still had the odd decent run and shot. Gray just doesn't step up when given his chance.

 

Overall we're in stuck.

Guest Danny Clender
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As many people started to believe we could win the premier league after the Man City game last season, I'm feeling last nights game is the exact reverse, as people are now genuinely starting to be believe we can be relegated. 

By genuine, I mean not just wanting to have the self-accolade of claiming "I called this in October?"

Southampton stung us, last night was definitely a solid dizzy blow.

Posted

We didn't deserve a win but the decision to give that goal was ****ing disgraceful. If he didn't handle it there was no way it naturally fell for him to slot it in. Will Dean get another punishment? Not when it involves a decision against us.

Posted
20 minutes ago, Danny Clender said:

As many people started to believe we could win the premier league after the Man City game last season, I'm feeling last nights game is the exact reverse, as people are now genuinely starting to be believe we can be relegated. 

By genuine, I mean not just wanting to have the self-accolade of claiming "I called this in October?"

Southampton stung us, last night was definitely a solid dizzy blow.

At the moment there is no team in the league in worse form. We have united and Liverpool as out next home games and go to Swansea in the biggest game of the season knowing we must win. We are ****ed in my opinion.

 

Name 3 worse teams? I can name 1 in Hull and potentially Sunderland but given they do this every year they can't be counted on to go down.

Guest Danny Clender
Posted

17th last 6 games

18th last 10 games.

 

I know what you mean though, it's not acceptable. 

 

Posted

what the hell has happened to a team that was so together last year. we are absolutely dire at the minute. morgan should be nowhere near the team, simpson is getting beat by any winger with the slightest bit of pace/skill. drinkwater is dire. vardy may as well not be here. mahrez still shows signs of brilliance but is losing the ball far too often (as per last year) the best performance for me was by ndidi. the players just cant seem to pass to each other partly because none of their team mates are moving into spaces so when someone gets the ball there is nowhere to go. the midfield/attack dont seem to want to attack aerial balls and we are not winning any second balls. i dont even think we are playing championship standard at the minute. i ssid at watford i cant see where our next win is coming from and its got worse. i dont know wether he has lost the dressing room or if players have fell out but something is drastically wrong. if we cant change the fact that we cant pass it around in my eyes the only way we are going to get goals is to play with wingers and get crosses into slimani becausr i honestly cant see where we are going to get a goal from at the minute let alone a win

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I've woken up this morning in as bad a mood as I was when I went to bed.

 

So disappointed with the total capitulation this season. At least in 14/15 we competed and battled when things weren't going our way, but this...just no heart for the fight.

 

We are now potentially only two games away from officially relinquishing the title.

 

At least that might put an end to the chant that made me so proud initially but has now become cringeworthy. We know what we are...

Posted

There was some good football on show - in increments. But for most part, a dire performance all around. We played in a compact shape and didn't allow Burnley that many chances, but still were happy enough to hand over the majority of possession.

We invited pressure, and as much as I thought a goalless draw was a fair result, Burnley deserved that win due to their willingness to create something, more so than we did. Apart from a short spell at the start and flashes of genius from Mahrez, we were toothless in attack, harmless in midfield and hoofing it left and right.

 

Vardy mostly ineffective on his own, the desperate attempt at gaining a penalty doesn't go down well with me (it's become his trademark somehow and I think it's not very sportsmanlike). He needs a decent partner up front and Ulloa could've provided a valuable option, but no - we don't play him, he goes on strike and we're ****ed.

Our midfield didn't create that much, Drinkwater tried to copy King by becoming invisible/absent on the pitch and only Ndidi can come out with some sort of credit for breaking up play whenever possible.

 

As much as I like Simpson and consider him to be the best of a bad bunch in the back, last night he showed no willingness to track back, got caught out of position too often, was slow to react and nowhere near his man. Fuchs equally bad. Huth was lucky not to get a card for his push on Gray (although Barnes on the other side was the worst offender).

Posted

My opinion of Vardy has changed so much id happily not see him in a Leicester kit again.

 

His main attribute was his raw pace and work rate and passion to get that ball back now he just doesn't seem to give a fuuck. He tried to dive yesterday when he could of got the ball round the keeper and scored.

 

Posted

Still don't get how winning the fecking league translates into such an obvious lack of confidence. You don't win the PL by accident. Should have been a springboard for these numpties but appears to have had quite the reverse effect. It's not rocket, go out there and fight, play, work for each other. They look like imbiciles trying to figure out chess. 

Posted

Oh and another thing who ever decided not to buy Keane should be sacked. Was absolute quality last night. Would of kept our core group English. No chance of signing him now. top 6 bound.

Posted

I didn't even feel annoyed at the ref after watching the replay, we got we deserved again.

 

Anyone relatively happy with that performance should stop kidding themselves. Rob ****ing Tanner has been brainwashed with the "we battled" shite and seems to think being played off the park by Burnley is ok for us. It's been the same all season. Turn up at someone decent, lose by 3+. Turn up at someone average, lose by 1. The common theme there is that we're losing, every game and deservedly so. What was the last league game we actually deserved to win? Man City? Let's be fair, that game was just ridiculous.

 

People are telling themselves that there are three worse teams than us, or that we're unlucky, or that we've got too much quality to go down. I was pleased with the line-up last night. Slimani aside, that was the best possible Leicester XI and was still nowhere near good enough to win. Despite all of that, we could've snatched it, if Vardy focused on putting the ball in the net rather than trying to win a pen. 

 

It's not a relegation battle. It's just relegation.

Posted

It was the right team selection but the wrong game plan.

 

Out of possession: Sat really really deep and allowed Burnley to control the match. Gave Barton far too much time on the ball.

In possession: Hurried long balls up front and lots of crosses into the box. Madness when it's Vardy/Gray/Okazaki against Mee and Keane.

 

I've no idea if it's Ranieri telling the players to go long or whether the players are ignoring him, but it is going to get us relegated. Judging by Ranieri screaming at the players against Derby to keep it on the floor, it seems it is the latter, but most worrying is that after Ranieri made that instruction the players seemed to totally ignore it.

Posted
8 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

I didn't even feel annoyed at the ref after watching the replay, we got we deserved again.

 

Anyone relatively happy with that performance should stop kidding themselves. Rob ****ing Tanner has been brainwashed with the "we battled" shite and seems to think being played off the park by Burnley is ok for us. It's been the same all season. Turn up at someone decent, lose by 3+. Turn up at someone average, lose by 1. The common theme there is that we're losing, every game and deservedly so. What was the last league game we actually deserved to win? Man City? Let's be fair, that game was just ridiculous.

 

People are telling themselves that there are three worse teams than us, or that we're unlucky, or that we've got too much quality to go down. I was pleased with the line-up last night. Slimani aside, that was the best possible Leicester XI and was still nowhere near good enough to win. Despite all of that, we could've snatched it, if Vardy focused on putting the ball in the net rather than trying to win a pen. 

 

It's not a relegation battle. It's just relegation.

I generally try to stay positive but I was shocked that Ranieri, Tanner and MOTD thought we were unlucky and that we'd battled well.

 

Ok, we battled better than the Southampton match, but Burnley deserved to win that hands down.

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