Ranieri Has Been Backstabbed.

[foxy boxing]

Claudio as Ceaser can probably see the ides of march coming when he is stabbed in the back by his kingsmen and then we will here the shouts of all hail Claudio, the Emperor is no more!. he has brought down the empire even before the empire could get going and establish itself. our football club was not built in a day and will still be here many years from now and we will have many emperors but the walls are crumbling and we need stronger cement to keep them from decaying any further! Leicester city will continue with or without it's greatest emperor

[norwichfox]

1 hour ago, Foxin_mad said:

To be fair to the players

 

Does anyone have a ****ing clue what Claudios football philosophy is meant to be? what is tactics are? how he intends us to play?

 

He doesn't know, we don't know then in fairness how the feck can you expect thick footballers to know??!!

 

We setup games not to lose them but we have a shit defence, we have a crap counter attack system of hoofing it to a woefully out of form Vardy. It doesn't work, last season and under Pearson we could play quick concise passing football which was a result of years of development as a team. This is the same group of players? What is wrong? I say the managers philosophy! RANIERI OUT

 

 

Poetry in motion.....thanks for that Foxin_mad

[Babylon]

12 minutes ago, Wdywd said:

The whole team is being held hostage by the defence imo. Who are either out of shape or don't give a shit. All of them got new contracts in the summer, they're all 30+ and there's absolutely no options there beyond Chilwell. They are repeatedly costing the team games, every time anyone crosses it or gets a set piece it's chaos. They can't pass so we can't keep the ball, last night Gray, Vardy and Mahrez are going up for headers against centre backs the whole game. We've spent millions on midfielders who get to watch the ball sail over their heads.

 

In the Derby game Ranieri was screaming at them to stop the hoofing but they won't. Drinkwater and Gray have been too in both the last games. I just don't see what the manager can do with them. He probably should've given Hernandez more games but he was hardly a world beater when he did play. He's been completely killed by us deciding we didn't need any defenders in the summer (leaving ourselves with literally one right back in the squad!). I don't blame him for that.

 

It's absolutely baffling that we've not done anything this window until like 10 minutes before the deadline. That's not his fault either. What can he do there? He's gonna have to try to use Amartey, Chilwell and the new guy to fix it. One's a midfielder, one's played about 5 games and one has never played in the country before. It's SO bad from the recruitment lot. I don't even hate the attacking signings particularly but you can't just sack off one area of the team. And to still do it this month when it's obviously what's destroying the side is mental.

The defence won the league. It's not perfect but the issues are more than just them.

 

Was a defence of Konch, De Laet, Morgan and Moore better? No.

Was the midfield in front of them better? No

 

So why is it even they were capable of some passing and moving and attacking and in general decent football now and again? Sure, they had brain farts and cost us games because they just weren't really good enough. But at least we played decent football and felt unlucky... now we're just terrible.

[lgfualol]

8 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

Must admit, I feel the same way as the original poster. The players are trying (I think) but it just ain't happening, Ranieri has tried different formations and different tactics but it just ain't working. Be interesting to see if our fortune changes when Slimani is back.

It won't because we'll use Slimani as a number 10 in order to never drop Vardy. 

[M0901]

The main problem is the players have completely believed their own hype. Mega contracts, big money endorsements, the elevation of a premier league win. Every single player in the squad had their best ever season, we rode the wave of momentum, metaphorically speaking, we were an RAF plane powering through the sky, the sky being the league...

 

This season it's like weve completely ran out of fuel. Just suddenly halted. Now it's a spiral, and it's gonna take some ****ing landing to get us out of this mess now

 

Ranieri will always be adored by the fans for bringing us that miraculous season, but he's fighting for his job now. Whether it's his fault or not, tactics ultimately lie with him. Man U this weekend needs to be played with the same desire and intensity as Man City earlier this season. 4-3-3, all guns blazing, because right now we've got nothing to lose. Echoing others on here, conceding a late goal would usually dampen my mood significantly, but last night it did absolutely nothing. The plethora of important games coming is frightening. 

 

It's time to stand up and be counted.

[Wdywd]

3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

The defence won the league. It's not perfect but the issues are more than just them.

 

But they're absolutely miles off what they did last year. It's the same names but they're absolutely dreadful now. Every single one of the 4 is incredibly lucky to still be playing, the fact they all are is the problem.

 

It's comfortably the worst defence in the league at the moment. 

[TJB-fox]

5 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

It won't because we'll use Slimani as a number 10 in order to never drop Vardy. 

We shall see, even our management team must know that this year we've achieved more points per game with Slimani playing. He would've made a difference last night I think. Or maybe it's me clutching at straws

[Greg2607]

We've been found out. It's quite simple. We relied last year on space behind the defence for vardy to run into. He's brilliant at that. 

 

But he's woeful against a defence that sits deep. He's impotent. Any manager worth their salary should see this and at least attempt to change the tactics. 

 

We aren't. And if we don't. We're relegated. 

[Babylon]

6 minutes ago, Wdywd said:

But they're absolutely miles off what they did last year. It's the same names but they're absolutely dreadful now. Every single one of the 4 is incredibly lucky to still be playing, the fact they all are is the problem.

Every single player is a mile off what they did last year, not just the defence. My case the for defence (pun intended) is that if EVERYONE is crap, then the issue is bigger than one player or a couple of players.

 

6 minutes ago, Wdywd said:

It's comfortably the worst defence in the league at the moment. 

It's not by a long shot or any metric you want to choose. Form over the last 6 you have half the table with similar or much worse. Flip side is that the attack is actually comfortably one of the worst currently.

[lgfualol]

6 minutes ago, TJB-fox said:

We shall see, even our management team must know that this year we've achieved more points per game with Slimani playing. He would've made a difference last night I think. Or maybe it's me clutching at straws

Yup, I think we have the highest win/point percentage with him in the team. We need to change our set-up to work to his strengths. Shame he keeps injuring his groin. 

[ealingfox]

The fact of the matter is everything good about the club since the Thais came has come about because of Big Nige. At all times since 2010 when his fingerprints have faded or been rubbed from our set-up we've been shit. The Thais bringing him back is far and away the best football decision they've made, closely followed by appointing Ranieri on the condition that he did not touch any of Big Nige's set-up.

 

Now that they've burned bridges with Pearson we are boned. Their non-Pearson related decisions are Sousa, Sven and this season.

 

Go cap in hand to Pearson and beg him to sort us out. Give Ranieri the Birch's job now he is in fragile health. Its the only way.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

2 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

The fact of the matter is everything good about the club since the Thais came has come about because of Big Nige. At all times since 2010 when his fingerprints have faded or been rubbed from our set-up we've been shit. The Thais bringing him back is far and away the best football decision they've made, closely followed by appointing Ranieri on the condition that he did not touch any of Big Nige's set-up.

 

Now that they've burned bridges with Pearson we are boned. Their non-Pearson related decisions are Sousa, Sven and this season.

 

Go cap in hand to Pearson and beg him to sort us out. Give Ranieri the Birch's job now he is in fragile health. Its the only way.

Unfortunately there's a lot of truth in this.

[Bayfox]

Has Claudio been let down by the players?

 

I'd say Claudio has also been let down by the owners, I think for everything that fell into a wonder place last season, this season has gone wrong from Top(excuse the pun) to bottom.

 

The players seem to believe the hype, heads turned, money, free cars, trips worldwide, clothing lines, magazines etc, and it stems from the Owners down, they have been absent a lot more this season, having taken the squad on a vanity tour of the globe, completely disregarding pre-season preparation, now Claudio is a wise head, but is used to being dictated to buy owners, hate to say it, but Nigel wouldn't have put up with what we did this summer, or if he had, he would have had us playing college teams MLS etc during that week in the states, instead we were off training kids.

 

It's clear from the amount of arm waving, complaining and now Vardy and Fuchs having a shoving match, that the band of brothers have split, they are no longer a team, they are just a bunch if individuals happy to collect the cash and lay them blame at others doors.

 

The lack of an overhaul of the defence now again I'd argue that that blame lands at Claudio's door as well, but he seems to suggest he has very little say in actual transfer dealings, well in that case the owners need to sack the cretins in place that can't seem to identify and land targets.

 

The complete lack of plan A or B or anything resembling football this season is horrible and I can only place that at Claudio's door without knowing what he is actually telling the players.

 

But what can't be blamed on him, is the complete lack of effort, the fact they seem to have forgotten the basics, how to pass, how to defend set pieces and clear crosses, the things that made us so good last season.

 

So yes Claudio has been let down, buy trusting those around him, both on and off the pitch, but this season is reminding me off the turgid years in the Championship, that eventually led to L1, where it was obvious that it didn't matter if the manager or the players changed over and over, the problem was the lack of unity and direction, leadership from the top of the club.

 

I feel our owners have forgotten what they learnt from the aftermath of Sven, and have gone back to doing it their own way. They along with Claudio and the players are in serious danger of tarnishing what credit they had and that's a sad state of affairs. 

 

Such a huge fall from grace so quickly, all parties need to shoulder the blame.

 

As fans we have to voice our opinions on places like this but we need to make sure we are up for it for 90 mins now, every week until the end of the season, and hopefully we can ride this out and start again in the summer.

 

If that's with the manager, the players, or even the owners deciding to walk away, what can't happen is the R word, as it could be an absolute disaster for the club. I hope i'm wrong but I feel the owners may just be looking to China and thinking, that's King Powers core market, what opportunities could we open if we have a club there.

[Wdywd]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

Every single player is a mile off what they did last year, not just the defence. My case the for defence (pun intended) is that if EVERYONE is crap, then the issue is bigger than one player or a couple of players.

 

It's not by a long shot or any metric you want to choose. Form over the last 6 you have half the table with similar or much worse. Flip side is that the attack is actually comfortably one of the worst currently.

But that's because they never get the ball to the attack, which is part of the reason they're so bad.

 

We could legitimately get smashed in every game because of the defence. We probably will on Sunday. It'll be 4-0 and it'll be 'oh we didn't score again!' but in reality Vardy and Mahrez will have had 4 touches between them and the defence will have Darren Bented all 4 in their own net.

[chapero82]

2 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

The fact of the matter is everything good about the club since the Thais came has come about because of Big Nige. At all times since 2010 when his fingerprints have faded or been rubbed from our set-up we've been shit. The Thais bringing him back is far and away the best football decision they've made, closely followed by appointing Ranieri on the condition that he did not touch any of Big Nige's set-up.

 

Now that they've burned bridges with Pearson we are boned. Their non-Pearson related decisions are Sousa, Sven and this season.

 

Go cap in hand to Pearson and beg him to sort us out. Give Ranieri the Birch's job now he is in fragile health. Its the only way.

The one thing we should of done from day one is make Steve Walsh Dof and give him the key to the City it was him who was the most important to keep 

[norwichfox]

ffs stop beating the Pearson drum, he's gone and given what he did at Derby, is not wanted within 20 miles of the club afaic

[Guest CityFan 06]

I'm finding it difficult to put my finger on. I do not believe the players are fully against CR, or unwilling to try for him. However, there is a distinct lack of intensity and the desire compared to last season is very different. It could just be me but something else I've noticed is the body language of the players. In some games the overall body language just doesn't look particularly up beat, heading out onto the pitch, and actually on the pitch.  

[Babylon]

16 minutes ago, Wdywd said:

But that's because they never get the ball to the attack, which is part of the reason they're so bad.

 

We could legitimately get smashed in every game because of the defence. We probably will on Sunday. It'll be 4-0 and it'll be 'oh we didn't score again!' but in reality Vardy and Mahrez will have had 4 touches between them and the defence will have Darren Bented all 4 in their own net.

It's the same defence as last year and we scored plenty. There were articles calling us "The great entertainers" because of our caution to the wind style early on.

 

What's come in now is turgid defensive football, we've overloaded the squad with defensive players (note our attacking full backs both sold) that actually just invites pressure we can't withstand. We end up playing hoof ball as there are zero options, everyone is static, players never move towards the ball only away from it.

 

The midfield neither supports the defence or the attack adequately, so every pass has to be made at distance. The full backs never support attacks, so they invariably break down as they are isolated. The front men have stopped pressing high up the pitch.

 

We're failing all over the shop

 

 

[MC Prussian]

As mentioned before and by others, I also found it somewhat confusing of Ranieri to give two contradicting statements in the space of a few weeks. He did at one point say that all transfer dealings are down to him as he has final say, but yesterday, during the post-match interview, came out with "I don't know, I'm just a coach, not a manager". So, does that mean he's lying to the public? Or is he being lied to (and the Wagué transfer a Rudkin decision)?

 

Worriying.

[CKB]

3 hours ago, MaxR said:

The main problem is the players have completely believed their own hype. Mega contracts, big money endorsements, the elevation of a premier league win. Every single player in the squad had their best ever season, we rode the wave of momentum, metaphorically speaking, we were an RAF plane powering through the sky, the sky being the league...

 

This season it's like weve completely ran out of fuel. Just suddenly halted. Now it's a spiral, and it's gonna take some ****ing landing to get us out of this mess now

 

Ranieri will always be adored by the fans for bringing us that miraculous season, but he's fighting for his job now. Whether it's his fault or not, tactics ultimately lie with him. Man U this weekend needs to be played with the same desire and intensity as Man City earlier this season. 4-3-3, all guns blazing, because right now we've got nothing to lose. Echoing others on here, conceding a late goal would usually dampen my mood significantly, but last night it did absolutely nothing. The plethora of important games coming is frightening. 

 

It's time to stand up and be counted.

This all day long! 

[coolhandfox]

1) CR has been found wanting tactual has been like a rabbit in the headlights. Doesn't know his best formation or 11.

 

2) Who ever is in charge of recruitment has has failed, we haven't brought one player who strengthen our starting 11. Ndidi, Musa and Mendy aren't PL class.

 

3) We have brought poorly, we have brought players from second rate league! 

 

4) We brought two strikers who can't play with our spearhead striker

 

5) CR should have realised teams would adapt and drop of to negate our style of play, we need a creative no 10 to make use of the extra space.

 

6) We went into the season with 3 aging centre backs! 

 

7) Last year took a lot out of the players, they put everything on the line. Motivation has been poor, the player are at fault, but Wenger, Fergie had to deal with this year in year out, CR has failed to get a tune out of he's best players! They know when to replace and move players on! 

 

 

[Struwwelpeter60]

12 hours ago, Greg2607 said:

We've been found out. It's quite simple. We relied last year on space behind the defence for vardy to run into. He's brilliant at that. 

 

But he's woeful against a defence that sits deep. He's impotent. Any manager worth their salary should see this and at least attempt to change the tactics. 

 

We aren't. And if we don't. We're relegated. 

The other half of this forum is blaming Ranieri for changing formations

and tactics too often.

Great.

[HybridFox]

12 hours ago, foxy boxing said:

Claudio as Ceaser can probably see the ides of march coming when he is stabbed in the back by his kingsmen and then we will here the shouts of all hail Claudio, the Emperor is no more!. he has brought down the empire even before the empire could get going and establish itself. our football club was not built in a day and will still be here many years from now and we will have many emperors but the walls are crumbling and we need stronger cement to keep them from decaying any further! Leicester city will continue with or without it's greatest emperor

Very literary 

[Guest]

10 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

As mentioned before and by others, I also found it somewhat confusing of Ranieri to give two contradicting statements in the space of a few weeks. He did at one point say that all transfer dealings are down to him as he has final say, but yesterday, during the post-match interview, came out with "I don't know, I'm just a coach, not a manager". So, does that mean he's lying to the public? Or is he being lied to (and the Wagué transfer a Rudkin decision)?

 

Worriying.

I didn't see either quote, but I'm wondering if he meant that he's not actively involved in the transfers or creating a shortlist, but he has the power to veto any transfer targets they present to him?

[MC Prussian]

8 minutes ago, winchesterton said:

I didn't see either quote, but I'm wondering if he meant that he's not actively involved in the transfers or creating a shortlist, but he has the power to veto any transfer targets they present to him?

He once stated quite clearly during a pre-match press conference not so long ago (must've been in January still) that it was him with the final say on transfers. So, you'd assume he gets presented a selection of suitable players, then makes the decision whether we chase after them or not.

 

However, yesterday - live and on air - he pretty much appeared as if the whole Wagué transfer business was done without any of his direct involvement, which I found strange.