Extra police powers this afternoon

[fazzyfox]

As victims of crime my family put in a complaint to the Police complaints commission after the very senior investigating officer  gave an unsatisfactory response to our letter questioning why the outcome of his investigation had been so disappointing despite cast iron evidence (some of which he "lost"). In his reply he had ignored 90% of our questions completely and the majority of his reply was automated stereotypical waffle "We take your concerns seriously....." etc that didn't mention our case. On the day the complaint would have arrived we were visited late at night by a van full of his colleagues. Until this sort of thing happens to you you wouldn't believe it. Very frightening, who do you turn to if even the complaints commission isn't trustworthy and your local police force have done that to you?

[Guest Lako42]

14 hours ago, Larry_LCFC said:

Clearly wasn't deemed an emergency. I'm sure you're giving us all the facts. Not.

Depends if two blokes in your house at 3.30am in the morning is deemed an emergency to anyone other than the person and family in the house I suppose.

 

If you don't consider that serious then you clearly don't like your family very much.

 

Tit

 

 

 

[Monsell1976]

1 hour ago, fazzyfox said:

As victims of crime my family put in a complaint to the Police complaints commission after the very senior investigating officer  gave an unsatisfactory response to our letter questioning why the outcome of his investigation had been so disappointing despite cast iron evidence (some of which he "lost"). In his reply he had ignored 90% of our questions completely and the majority of his reply was automated stereotypical waffle "We take your concerns seriously....." etc that didn't mention our case. On the day the complaint would have arrived we were visited late at night by a van full of his colleagues. Until this sort of thing happens to you you wouldn't believe it. Very frightening, who do you turn to if even the complaints commission isn't trustworthy and your local police force have done that to you?

Exactly how it left me feeling, the compliants seem a common thing, as do the cover ups, which leads me to believe they are institutionally corrupt.

[onekeithweller]

I am saddened and angered to read this post. I regularly experienced being pushed, shouted and sworn at by police for wearing a scarf and walking in the general direction of a football ground, in the 70's and 80's.They seemed to have a real talent for picking on individuals like me who were walking on their own minding their own business. I rarely go to matches these days (I don't get out much at all to be honest), and I thought policing had vastly improved in recent times but obviously I'm sadly mistaken. I'm sorry I don't have any answers , I never had the courage to make a complaint.

On a side note, the worst mistake I made with police was when I was totally pissed and crashed out against a wall at 2 a.m and a van load of coppers woke me up and asked where I lived and I said " In the pub". They went absolutely mental.... 

[yorkie1999]

5 hours ago, Monsell1976 said:

A lot of stereotyping going on, I think police are corrupt and lying arrogant pricks, and no I  am not part of any anarchist group, I just happened to attend a football match, and was assaulted by the police for not walking quick enough.

My own fault you would think, but as I am disabled from chemotherapy, and I had had my intestines, and bowels removed, to get to the cancer behind them, I think I could be excused by the police, but clearly not.

I explained my health issues, and it didn't make a difference, the officer continued and even pushed me in the stomach.

Him and his friends lied and said I was part of a large group, and I offered to fight him, clearly something you do,  not long after having your insides removed.

The police were filming, and he had a body camera on, but when I complained there was no camera evidence, barring 3 seconds.

He got away with it, as even though in his lies that I was in a large group, my only witness was my 12 year old son, who was thrown to the floor, and my 15 year old daughter, who was punched.

So yes I hate the police, I don't trust the police, and I have my reasons, so let's understand the different reasons why people do, the police are bent, but some have not experienced it yet.

That is fvckin disgusting.

[SecretPro]

I work with Police officers on a daily basis. I have zero respect for at least 85% of them.

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, Monsell1976 said:

Exactly how it left me feeling, the compliants seem a common thing, as do the cover ups, which leads me to believe they are institutionally corrupt.

 

1 minute ago, SecretPro said:

I work with Police officers on a daily basis. I have zero respect for at least 85% of them.

 

This is precisely my feelings towards them. They operate with impunity, knowing that they will be looked after come-what-may. This, coupled with the fact that the WRONG people apply for the job has created a dangerous beast. Policing should be an elective role...if you offer that power to men then, inevitably, the wrong men for the job take it. Ask yourself what sane person wishes to control and punish others?

 

Unfortunately we live in a society where you cannot criticise the police. It's hogwash. I'll leave you with this snippit...the extended metaphor for policing, within their own institution, is to refer to the streets as the 'front line'. Think about the impact those words will have on men.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

44 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

I work with Police officers on a daily basis. I have zero respect for at least 85% of them.

There is good and bad in all jobs

 

there seems plenty of prejudiced and bigoted opinions on this forum 

[Mike Oxlong]

They don't like it when you say "Evening Cvnt...stable".

[foxile5]

37 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said:

There is good and bad in all jobs

 

there seems of prejudiced and bigoted opinions on this forum 

 

No. There isn't. I work in education and I would be ashamed, embarrassed and disgusted should there be even a small percentage of the hate found in the police force.

 

There are noticeably more corrupt fifa officials than there are milkmen. Nurses are more empathetic than morticians. 

 

Don't make broad comparisons in order to protect a service that is demonstrably failing. How many people have died at the hands of fire-fighters in the last 10 years?

[Larry_LCFC]

6 hours ago, foxile5 said:

 

No. There isn't. I work in education and I would be ashamed, embarrassed and disgusted should there be even a small percentage of the hate found in the police force.

 

There are noticeably more corrupt fifa officials than there are milkmen. Nurses are more empathetic than morticians. 

 

Don't make broad comparisons in order to protect a service that is demonstrably failing. How many people have died at the hands of fire-fighters in the last 10 years?

You do talk some utter drivel.

[foxinsocks]

It's along time simce tte met was labelled institutionally racist after the woeful response to the stephen lawrence murder. Its years since the cover up of the south yorkshire police initiative to shift the hillsborough blame

It's years... but have police forces made the progess  to address these things?  I wonder what sort of folk are attracted to a career in the police given these obvious short comings. Its a tough hard job... but unless these issues are addressed we will never have a police force able to police itself

[foxile5]

15 hours ago, Larry_LCFC said:

You do talk some utter drivel.

I don't think so.

 

The police are, historically, a bigoted group. We're in the throws of having to make them admit a cover-up at Hillsborough...how many years ago was that?

 

How people like you can stand around and say 'oh, no, they're fine' is beyond me. Race related taserings, unlawful stop and search, bullying tactics...these are all WEEKLY things. Why are you defending that? How can you defend an institution that so regularly abuses its power? I'm not against the idea of the police, but I'm certainly against the current crop of aggressive meatheads with no moral compass.

[coolcol]

2 hours ago, foxile5 said:

I don't think so.

 

The police are, historically, a bigoted group. We're in the throws of having to make them admit a cover-up at Hillsborough...how many years ago was that?

 

How people like you can stand around and say 'oh, no, they're fine' is beyond me. Race related taserings, unlawful stop and search, bullying tactics...these are all WEEKLY things. Why are you defending that? How can you defend an institution that so regularly abuses its power? I'm not against the idea of the police, but I'm certainly against the current crop of aggressive meatheads with no moral compass.

They are by no means totally innocent, but if a member of your family was murdered, your house was burgled, someone defrauded your elderly mother WHO would would you phone and seek redress from ?

 

 They do have their meatheads and I am sure police corruption will continue ad infinetum, but I choose to believe the majority of them uphold the law and punish law breakers the majority of the time.

[foxile5]

12 minutes ago, coolcol said:

They are by no means totally innocent, but if a member of your family was murdered, your house was burgled, someone defrauded your elderly mother WHO would would you phone and seek redress from ?

 

 They do have heir meatheads and I am sure police corruption will continue ad infinetum, but I choose to believe the majority of them uphold the law and punish law breakers the majority of the time.

Like I say, I'm not against the idea of policing. It is done wrong. I shouldn't have to accept cover ups, violence, lying, corruption and racism in exchange for assistance. Why would I accept anything less?

 

Justifying the wrong by identifying the right doesn't make it ok.

[adejo92]

On 02/10/2017 at 12:59, foxile5 said:

 

No. There isn't. I work in education and I would be ashamed, embarrassed and disgusted should there be even a small percentage of the hate found in the police force.

 

There are noticeably more corrupt fifa officials than there are milkmen. Nurses are more empathetic than morticians. 

 

Don't make broad comparisons in order to protect a service that is demonstrably failing. How many people have died at the hands of fire-fighters in the last 10 years?

 

This thread is hilarious. Work in education do you? heard a few paedophiles were teachers, that now makes you one......Yeah, see my thinking? Don't tar a minority into a majority. Not all police are corrupt or bad just like not all teachers a paedophiles.

 

This thread is mostly full of pathetic and narrow minded people who have either had one bad experience with police or watch too much of the news.

 

Just remember, in your time of need who do you call? When your running away from danger who is running towards it?

 

The role of policing is very wide and these officers that you are calling corrupt and slagging off are the same officers that get paid a very poor salary to deal with scum all day all night and also other things like fatal car collisions.

 

Lets show a bit of respect because we all know you will still call them if you need them.

[adejo92]

And as for working in education, have you actually had an education of your own?

 

    "How many people have died at the hands of fire-fighters in the last 10 years?"

 

Got to be top of the dumbest things i heard. How many people call the fire service for people with weapons and violance?

 

could say the fire service are responsible for the death of everyone who has died in a house fire? nah, that would be as stupid as your other comment.

 

[sylofox]

On ‎10‎/‎02‎/‎2017 at 12:19, Bob Weasel Fox said:

There is good and bad in all jobs

 

there seems plenty of prejudiced and bigoted opinions on this forum 

 

You only have to look at Hillsborough they opened the gate they let people rush in. All they had to do was put the kick off back fifteen mins and announce if. The same was very close to happening the previous year but they learnt nothing.

 

Then the cvnts close ranks lie and lose evidence for years but now the obvious truth is out. Every fvcking one of the lying cvnts should be locked up as we would be.

 

I'll start to trust them when they start shopping the sh1t within the ranks. They may not all be bad penny's and do wrongs. But by saying nothing and letting other officers get away with crime and abuse they are all tared with the cvnt brush Imo.

 

Yes the same cvnt brush they tar all football fans with.

 

Just read monsells post and other similar posts over the years. % of thugs in the police is way higher than a football crowd.

[Larry_LCFC]

This thread is an embarrassment.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Just now, Larry_LCFC said:

This thread is an embarrassment.

Agree bud 

[volpeazzurro]

On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 12:59, foxile5 said:

 

No. There isn't. I work in education and I would be ashamed, embarrassed and disgusted should there be even a small percentage of the hate found in the police force.

 

There are noticeably more corrupt fifa officials than there are milkmen. Nurses are more empathetic than morticians. 

 

Don't make broad comparisons in order to protect a service that is demonstrably failing. How many people have died at the hands of fire-fighters in the last 10 years?

All systems are failing including your poor education system and the inadequate hardly fit for purpose NHS those nurses work in. Can't comment on the Fire Service. One common factor is they are all now working on a shoe string and have all had huge cost and staff cuts. 

[adejo92]

16 minutes ago, Larry_LCFC said:

This thread is an embarrassment.

 

15 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said:

Agree bud 

I just wish i was the call taker answering the 999 call from these cretins that 'Hate the police' and would 'never call them'

 

Its probably these same people that are the ones who infact ALWAYS call the police for the most mundane things that are better off being solved on Jeremy Kyle.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

23 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

 

I just wish i was the call taker answering the 999 call from these cretins that 'Hate the police' and would 'never call them'

 

Its probably these same people that are the ones who infact ALWAYS call the police for the most mundane things that are better off being solved on Jeremy Kyle.

You sum it up well bud to be fair