SMX11 Posted 26 March 2017 Share Posted 26 March 2017 10 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Given how hard Obama had to fight to get the legislation in place in the first place, I'm pleasantly pleased that it gets to live a little longer at least. Its also an interesting turnaround, given the Republicans castigated the original Obamacare bill when it was put forward. At that time they had managed to move some popular disent against the unknown, where as now there's popular discord against scraping the original bill, so it just goes to show how hollow politicians can be when votes are riding on an issue. Like most things politicians will say things in opposition which will be the most politically effective, but, like over here most politicians don't have a political philosophy or any principles. The ones that do are called names and dismissed because they are not 'centrist'. The major problem with Obamacare is that it allows people to get insurance after they become ill, infact it also encourages them to do so because the mandates makes the annual fees so expensive it makes paying the fine the most economical solution. You cannot pretend to have a marketplace and force such poorly thought regulation on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trav Le Bleu Posted 28 March 2017 Share Posted 28 March 2017 (edited) Did previous PotUS always sign new orders with such a media circus? I don't remember seeing one, but every time Trump has made a major new order or repealed an old one, it's a photo shoot with him sat there, pursed lips with an over earnest expression on his face looking like a schoolboy trying to impress teacher. Edited 28 March 2017 by Trav Le Bleu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 28 March 2017 Share Posted 28 March 2017 For ages I had no idea what POTUS meant, I thought it was some word they'd taken from Latin that they thought sounded honourific. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 29 March 2017 Share Posted 29 March 2017 13 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said: Did previous PotUS always sign new orders with such a media circus? I don't remember seeing one, but every time Trump has made a major new order or repealed an old one, it's a photo shoot with him sat there, pursed lips with an over earnest expression on his face looking like a schoolboy trying to impress teacher. They always do a commemorative photo for bill signings, it's the amount of controversy surrounding the bills that's unusual and why we see more of the signings than we generally did before, that and Trump's been handing out EOs like they're going out of fashion so there's been more of them condensed into a shorter time frame than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 29 March 2017 Share Posted 29 March 2017 And in todays edition of 'Hypocrisy Now'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 29 March 2017 Share Posted 29 March 2017 15 hours ago, bovril said: For ages I had no idea what POTUS meant, I thought it was some word they'd taken from Latin that they thought sounded honourific. Strictly speaking, it's POTUSA: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 29 March 2017 Share Posted 29 March 2017 http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39427026 Privacy near-abandoned in the name of profit. Sorry Mr Pai, your assurances don't mean much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 29 March 2017 Share Posted 29 March 2017 2 hours ago, MC Prussian said: Strictly speaking, it's POTUSA: Wouldn't it be POTUSOA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 29 March 2017 Share Posted 29 March 2017 Just now, Jattdogg said: Wouldn't it be POTUSOA? I think they call themselves Pot USA, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leicsmac Posted 30 March 2017 Share Posted 30 March 2017 http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-39447921 Interesting view on part of Pences moral compass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted 30 March 2017 Share Posted 30 March 2017 3 hours ago, leicsmac said: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-39447921 Interesting view on part of Pences moral compass. thats not an act to demonstrate transparency- that's an action you take because your hands just won't stop wandering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 31 March 2017 Share Posted 31 March 2017 I'm sure it's fine. Nothing to see here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39451358 Lock her/him up! Lock her/him up! Probably easier just to lock everyone up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 31 March 2017 Share Posted 31 March 2017 1 hour ago, Bellend Sebastian said: I'm sure it's fine. Nothing to see here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39451358 Lock her/him up! Lock her/him up! Probably easier just to lock everyone up Isn't this the bellend that was saying you don't ask for immunity unless you've broken the law? Couldn't make it up really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jattdogg Posted 31 March 2017 Share Posted 31 March 2017 49 minutes ago, Innovindil said: Isn't this the bellend that was saying you don't ask for immunity unless you've broken the law? Couldn't make it up really. Sad state of affairs. Politics in general (in most countries) is shambolic but i guess we just hear about their's more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 2 April 2017 Share Posted 2 April 2017 Does Trump really understand what being the President entails? No, he does not have an inkling. The guy is poncing around on cloud nine, polishing up his ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 April 2017 Share Posted 3 April 2017 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39475178 All talk of course, and I'm reasonably sure that the US could take on NK by itself as the Chinese would likely not want to risk WW3 by intervening if the US committed. (Still think the US has a secret deal with the Chinese should something happen - no intervention, reunification, all US presence leaves.) Though it would be devastating for a country I spent rather a lot of time in. But it doesn't matter that much - the status quo suits everyone with influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 3 April 2017 Share Posted 3 April 2017 9 minutes ago, leicsmac said: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39475178 All talk of course, and I'm reasonably sure that the US could take on NK by itself as the Chinese would likely not want to risk WW3 by intervening if the US committed. (Still think the US has a secret deal with the Chinese should something happen - no intervention, reunification, all US presence leaves.) Though it would be devastating for a country I spent rather a lot of time in. But it doesn't matter that much - the status quo suits everyone with influence. Sounds to me like Trump is trying to shake things up and force China's hand. It's their client state, it's up to them to put things right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 April 2017 Share Posted 3 April 2017 4 minutes ago, Webbo said: Sounds to me like Trump is trying to shake things up and force China's hand. It's their client state, it's up to them to put things right. As much as I'd like to see them do that, I can't see it happening unless serious incentives and assurances are offered. The kind that Trump wouldn't probably be prepared to offer as it would kill a lot of his home support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 3 April 2017 Share Posted 3 April 2017 4 minutes ago, leicsmac said: As much as I'd like to see them do that, I can't see it happening unless serious incentives and assurances are offered. The kind that Trump wouldn't probably be prepared to offer as it would kill a lot of his home support. I wouldn't worry about his home support, he doesn't have much, and the ones that do support him call him god-emperor. He can, and has, just denied he ever said what he said, and they accept it and defend his new position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Blues Posted 3 April 2017 Share Posted 3 April 2017 If we've learned anything from the War in Iraq, it would be that the military operation is not the tough part. The issue is nation building. Why invest american lives and treasure to try and rebuild a crumbling mess so far away, when we have issues in our own backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 3 April 2017 Share Posted 3 April 2017 Just now, Detroit Blues said: If we've learned anything from the War in Iraq, it would be that the military operation is not the tough part. The issue is nation building. Why invest american lives and treasure to try and rebuild a crumbling mess so far away, when we have issues in our own backyard. To get re-elected. Presidents that start wars tend to be voted back in during the war. As you know, American's consider all 'veterans' to be heroes and treat them with a lot of deference. He'll drum up so much (misplaced) patriotic feelings amongst his base that he'll be re-elected. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 3 April 2017 Share Posted 3 April 2017 America is not going to invade NK. I'd guess we're talking about sending a couple of missiles to military sites. Not that I think that's what's going to happen. China needs to have a word in some general's ear and promise him support and this could be over very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 3 April 2017 Share Posted 3 April 2017 51 minutes ago, Merging Cultures said: I wouldn't worry about his home support, he doesn't have much, and the ones that do support him call him god-emperor. He can, and has, just denied he ever said what he said, and they accept it and defend his new position. I was talking more about the general Repub base when it comes to trade, but I can see what you mean. 21 minutes ago, Webbo said: America is not going to invade NK. I'd guess we're talking about sending a couple of missiles to military sites. Not that I think that's what's going to happen. China needs to have a word in some general's ear and promise him support and this could be over very quickly. If the Chinese had the capacity and inclination to do that I think it would have happened already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 3 April 2017 Share Posted 3 April 2017 4 minutes ago, leicsmac said: If the Chinese had the capacity and inclination to do that I think it would have happened already. I wonder if the present situation doesn't suit China, being the only country with any influence over a bunch of maniacs means the other countries in the neighbourhood need to keep them sweet, and it's a distraction from China's expansion in the South China Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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