Atlético Madrid SOLD OUT... before Silver members?

[stripeyfox]

Can we all please stop mentioning ticket allocations for the final!

 

[sk3since03]

Just climb the stadium watch from the roof you'll be alright 

[m4DD0gg]

25 minutes ago, SydenhamFox said:

This argument can be flipped. Up until this game it had not been worth forking out for a Gold membership as Silver has got you access to every home game thus far. This is the ONLY home fixture to date where being a Gold member has come into its own and that is the privilege Gold members paid for (and Silvers did not). Have a lot of empathy for those fans that missed out though. 

This is a good point.

 

Essentially the gold membership is a 'gate' to a season ticket and nothing else bar very exclusive matches of this nature. 

 

Total con by the club.

[foxile5]

7 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

This is a good point.

 

Essentially the gold membership is a 'gate' to a season ticket and nothing else bar very exclusive matches of this nature. 

 

Total con by the club.

I wonder how long you have to remain a gold member for?

 

I'm aware that the club have shifted over the last  decade to a business, that much I've made peace with. It's all the underhand and unsettling business cons that I object to : tiered membership with very little differentiated benefits; oversell on cheap and worthless tat that most people wouldn't want to buy; 'fearless' branding, as if it somehow is linked to the identity of Leicester; cynical advertising ploys; forced/contrived demand.

 

I love our owners and we're genuinely lucky, but that doesn't mean that we should be victim to these kind of ultra-capitalist techniques. 

[m4DD0gg]

7 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

I wonder how long you have to remain a gold member for?

 

I'm aware that the club have shifted over the last  decade to a business, that much I've made peace with. It's all the underhand and unsettling business cons that I object to : tiered membership with very little differentiated benefits; oversell on cheap and worthless tat that most people wouldn't want to buy; 'fearless' branding, as if it somehow is linked to the identity of Leicester; cynical advertising ploys; forced/contrived demand.

 

I love our owners and we're genuinely lucky, but that doesn't mean that we should be victim to these kind of ultra-capitalist techniques. 

Dont think the length of time matters.

 

Its clear there is a demand for season tickets that is well out stripping supply.

 

Take a leaf out of other 'big' clubs which the owners claim they want to aspire to and introduce a waiting list for season tickets and then have one level of membership.

 

Or alternatively - EXPAND THE BLOODY STADIUM ALREADY

[foxile5]

2 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

Dont think the length of time matters.

 

Its clear there is a demand for season tickets that is well out stripping supply.

 

Take a leaf out of other 'big' clubs which the owners claim they want to aspire to and introduce a waiting list for season tickets and then have one level of membership.

 

Or alternatively - EXPAND THE BLOODY STADIUM ALREADY

 

It kind of does matter, as we're told that you must renew by X date, followed by a warning that tickets are nearly sold out. They force people's hand and artificially create a demand (I'm assuming that most WOULD renew, but a percentage do so under pressure). This, in turn, lengthens the waiting time for the already expensive gold membership. Why give people the luxury of time when you can put pressure on and ensure a longer, fuller waiting list.

 

Time on Gold Membership = profit for the business.

[MrSpaM]

46 minutes ago, red5 said:

The gold members who got one, did you get your usual seat? The ones available were clearly season ticket holders who never got them, the rows that I usually get mine on were not available, clearly held back or sold/given away. 

We've had to move from our usual season ticket seats, was the same for the Seville game as well, and it turned out our seats were occupied by a bunch of Seville fans, smack bang in the middle of one of our home stands, not sure if they were players family or something

[m4DD0gg]

4 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

 

It kind of does matter, as we're told that you must renew by X date, followed by a warning that tickets are nearly sold out. They force people's hand and artificially create a demand (I'm assuming that most WOULD renew, but a percentage do so under pressure). This, in turn, lengthens the waiting time for the already expensive gold membership. Why give people the luxury of time when you can put pressure on and ensure a longer, fuller waiting list.

 

Time on Gold Membership = profit for the business.

I mean the length of time a gold membership is held and being lucky enough to get a season ticket does not matter.

[foxile5]

Just now, m4DD0gg said:

I mean the length of time a gold membership is held and being lucky enough to get a season ticket does not matter.

 

I do feel like you're missing my point a little. I meant over the span of 3/4 seasons, not just a short-term membership.

 

Everytime a drive of demand is created there is a percentage of Gold Members that miss out as a result. This means they REMAIN Gold Members the next season (on a fix term of 9 months or whatever) at the same cost of the Gold Membership.

 

This means that the club gets the price of a season ticket AND a gold membership as a result of contrived demand. Had they been relaxed they would have just got the price of a Season Ticket. 

[VLC86]

2 hours ago, rn9013 said:

Combination of factors but to name a few:

 

-Fewer STH's and Gold Members taking up seats

-Fewer seats being taken by UEFA (this is a big one, in the group stages UEFA didn't take much at all, where as at the minute they have around 3,000 I believe)

-Fewer seats being taken by the club for guests/hospitality

 

 

Or people not fancying the less glamorous ties and now all of a sudden expect a ticket.

I get people aren't in a situation always to get season tickets etc but you can't then moan about loyalty like I have seen people online doing. It works both ways.

[stripeyfox]

15 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

 

I do feel like you're missing my point a little. I meant over the span of 3/4 seasons, not just a short-term membership.

 

Everytime a drive of demand is created there is a percentage of Gold Members that miss out as a result. This means they REMAIN Gold Members the next season (on a fix term of 9 months or whatever) at the same cost of the Gold Membership.

 

This means that the club gets the price of a season ticket AND a gold membership as a result of contrived demand. Had they been relaxed they would have just got the price of a Season Ticket. 

I don't think it does matter. I suppose a gold member of four seasons standing should get higher priority (in the season ticket ballot) than one who has only had one season, but I'd be suprised if they had such a system. I guess you're either a current Gold member, or you're not. No distinction.

 

[foxile5]

Just now, stripeyfox said:

I don't think it does matter. I suppose a gold member of four seasons standing should get higher priority (in the season ticket ballot) than one who has only had one season, but I'd be suprised if they had such a system. I guess you're either a current Gold member, or you're not. No distinction.

 

Again, true. I'm not disagreeing with that.

 

My point is that the club drives up demand. By driving up demand a certain percentage of ticket sales are to people who would not have renewed. This takes the tickets from the Gold Members who, otherwise, would have had a chance. 

 

The end-point of this cycle is that there are MORE Gold Members the next season as a result.

 

Am I talking madness? Does anyone understand me?

[Bob Weasel Fox]

5 hours ago, Ted Maul said:

I'm not sure how there could be a guarantee of tickets for this one- what were they going to do, tell a few hundred of the gold members that they couldn't have tickets to cater for silvers? 

 

I'd imagine pretty much every ST holder and gold member would have tried to get one.

Funnily enough though this is exactly why the club needs to expand its capacity

 

come on City get it done

 

thousands are missing out now

[Munshi]

17 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said:

Funnily enough though this is exactly why the club needs to expand its capacity

 

come on City get it done

 

thousands are missing out now

Thousands who wont want to come to the games like Sunderland, Burnley, Hull etc but will moan when they can't get tickets for Atletico at home. 

[FraserSorensen]

39 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

 

I do feel like you're missing my point a little. I meant over the span of 3/4 seasons, not just a short-term membership.

 

Everytime a drive of demand is created there is a percentage of Gold Members that miss out as a result. This means they REMAIN Gold Members the next season (on a fix term of 9 months or whatever) at the same cost of the Gold Membership.

 

This means that the club gets the price of a season ticket AND a gold membership as a result of contrived demand. Had they been relaxed they would have just got the price of a Season Ticket. 

But it's only been the last renewal period in which Gold members have been unable to secure a season ticket.

 

Even when we were promoted back to the Premier League, Season Tickets were available for general sale before selling out. I renewed my Season Ticket the following season in the knowledge that we would most likely be relegated, as we were bottom of the table at the time. Season tickets were then sold to Gold and Silver members before selling out. The only occasion in recent history where demand for Season Tickets has outstripped supply has been for this season for obvious reasons.

[foxile5]

1 minute ago, FraserSorensen said:

But it's only been the last renewal period in which Gold members have been unable to secure a season ticket.

 

Even when we were promoted back to the Premier League, Season Tickets were available for general sale before selling out. I renewed my Season Ticket the following season in the knowledge that we would most likely be relegated, as we were bottom of the table at the time. Season tickets were then sold to Gold and Silver members before selling out. The only occasion in recent history where demand for Season Tickets has outstripped supply has been for this season for obvious reasons.

 

Ah, okay, understood.

 

I'm fairly certain it will happen again this summer, though, and we can re-visit the debate then!

[ealingfox]

The club will get a shock this summer if they think demand will be the same again. Barring miracles in Europe we will go back to being your average PL outfit. Far more people will choose not to renew their STs, and far fewer people will take up the Gold memberships, especially at 90 quid a throw. There'll be no Everton or Atletico equivalents next year.

[lestajigs]

Considering the away team have over 1000 less tickets, mmmmmm

[AjcW]

A real shame, I've been to every game and enjoyed every game. I know I have no right to expect a different priority but it would have been nice to see 3 game package holders honoured in some way, as they're the ones who stuck the cash in when the glamour chasers couldn't be bothered. (emphasis on nice... don't attack me for this it's just a thought)

 

As said above the UEFA allocation wont help, what a horrible rule that is! Feel very sorry for Silver Members and those Gold who struggled yesterday before a load were released late on.

 

Oh well, will keep my eye out and hope for the best, I even enquired about Premium but that has also sold out. 

 

Looking forward to next year when the glory chasers and people asking their mates for tickets will die down.

[lcfc old boy]

wait until  we get to the final, then we will all see how the gold and silver have been shafted, ive been a season ticket holder for years don't go to all the away games but I'm on about 157 points and don't think I have a chance of a final ticket, once the chairman, players ,staff have taken their share of the 18,000,

[jonny_wright]

Totally agree, I've been to every champions league home game, I'm traveling to Madrid without a ticket... only missed 4 home league games due to work and most silver members being unable to get a Man U ticket.... this just feels like a kick in the teeth considering I've spent about enough already to have bought a season ticket and some 

[AjcW]

It would probably have been a good idea to do membership points systems too. As with @jonny_wright I've been to all four home games, as well as a number of home league games but received no sort of points for this.

 

Perhaps a tier system within memberships would work too?

[UniFox21]

Our size as a club and stadium capacity has reached a point where generally people will miss out on tickets, it will always be a win lose situation until the grounds extended or if we drop down 

 

[howlinmadmurfdoc]

Better to have people moaning they can't get tickets for the odd big game than 10k empty seats.

[red5]

7 minutes ago, howlinmadmurfdoc said:

Better to have people moaning they can't get tickets for the odd big game than 10k empty seats.

So long as you're not one of them.