HighPeakFox Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 Trying to make the use of the word 'unevolved' equivalent to all the amazing extrapolation you made is so absurd I just don't know where to start. I've been accused of being a namby pamby tree hugging hippy today too. Words fail me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 5 hours ago, ARM1968 said: Calling racists unevolved is a little pathetic, inaccurate and frankly disappointing. It puts you very much in the target box you’re firing at. No need for cheap insults or denegration of their intelligence. This sort of belittling and subhumanising is what happened to oh, say, the Jews. Just because you don’t like their point of view does not mean you should start down the slide to moral oblivion. Debate them, engage them, show them they are wrong. Never dismiss them as irrelevant. They are just as relevant as you or I. Failure to engage on a level playing field is where the danger lies. Racista are unevolved as no one evolved would hold such absurdly pathetic views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 2 hours ago, Donut said: Racista are unevolved as no one evolved would hold such absurdly pathetic views. I’m not sure you read my post. If you did I’m not sure you understood it. It is important to understand the point being made. Simply saying they are unevolved is as unhelpful as the views they hold. It is also a slippery slope, morally. If you can dismiss and belittle whole groups of people as you are doing, where does it lead? they are unevolved in your opinion - so should we then just exterminate them? After all, they’re not like us are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Md9 Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Md9 Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 May as well put them trough to the next round, I mean 72% possession they must have won right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 1 hour ago, ARM1968 said: I’m not sure you read my post. If you did I’m not sure you understood it. It is important to understand the point being made. Simply saying they are unevolved is as unhelpful as the views they hold. It is also a slippery slope, morally. If you can dismiss and belittle whole groups of people as you are doing, where does it lead? they are unevolved in your opinion - so should we then just exterminate them? After all, they’re not like us are they? For the record, I said racist opinions are unevolved. I respect that you care enough to make a critique, so won't attack you, but I cannot agree with your extrapolations, or trying to paint me to be as bad as racists - that just fuels apologists and excuses more hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 13 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: For the record, I said racist opinions are unevolved. I respect that you care enough to make a critique, so won't attack you, but I cannot agree with your extrapolations, or trying to paint me to be as bad as racists - that just fuels apologists and excuses more hatred. Attack away if you wish to. Your intimation was clear - racists are unevolved. Apologists do not engage racists regarding their views. As I clearly said, they need to be engaged on a level playing field. ‘It was racists I was calling unevolved’ - direct quote from you. Not ambiguous. I would like you to explain why you don’t agree with my extrapolations? Sure it is exaggerated, but the slide can be gradual and the destination just as damned. Sometimes mate you just just hold your hands up because you were wrong. Funny thing is I am just as opposed to racism as you. I find it just as abhorrent. However I personally have no desire to underestimate those who hold such views - these views pervade our entire society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 8 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: Attack away if you wish to. Your intimation was clear - racists are unevolved. Apologists do not engage racists regarding their views. As I clearly said, they need to be engaged on a level playing field. ‘It was racists I was calling unevolved’ - direct quote from you. Not ambiguous. I would like you to explain why you don’t agree with my extrapolations? Sure it is exaggerated, but the slide can be gradual and the destination just as damned. Sometimes mate you just just hold your hands up because you were wrong. Funny thing is I am just as opposed to racism as you. I find it just as abhorrent. However I personally have no desire to underestimate those who hold such views - these views pervade our entire society. I do not underestimate them - their views have pervaded our politics a massive amount, I agree - that doesn't mean I ought not to hold hatred in utter contempt for fear of offending racists. However, to hold racist views is to refuse to really think or engage - reactionaries aren't known for listening. Holding foul views does rather tip the level playing field you imagine, so the responsibility for a lack of level playing field resides with the racist, not with me. Yes, you quote me, in between jobs, trying to clarify in a rush. I was simply trying to point out it WASN'T SyloFox I was calling unevolved, You're right, sometimes we are wrong - who the heck are you to try and insist it isn't you? Unless you're just trying to shut me up of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said: I do not underestimate them - their views have pervaded our politics a massive amount, I agree - that doesn't mean I ought not to hold hatred in utter contempt for fear of offending racists. However, to hold racist views is to refuse to really think or engage - reactionaries aren't known for listening. Holding foul views does rather tip the level playing field you imagine, so the responsibility for a lack of level playing field resides with the racist, not with me. Yes, you quote me, in between jobs, trying to clarify in a rush. I was simply trying to point out it WASN'T SyloFox I was calling unevolved, You're right, sometimes we are wrong - who the heck are you to try and insist it isn't you? Unless you're just trying to shut me up of course. Why would I try to shut you up? You are angry and made a mistake. Try not to hate - you know where that leads. As I said, we are totally on the same side in this. We must, however, avoid these petty pitfalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 2 hours ago, Md9 said: When's the parade? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 14 February 2018 Share Posted 14 February 2018 5 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: Why would I try to shut you up? You are angry and made a mistake. Try not to hate - you know where that leads. As I said, we are totally on the same side in this. We must, however, avoid these petty pitfalls. Please don't patronise me - you're making plenty of mistakes here too. Good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 15 February 2018 Share Posted 15 February 2018 4 hours ago, HighPeakFox said: Please don't patronise me - you're making plenty of mistakes here too. Good night. Possibly I am. Feel free to point them out. We can learn from our mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 (edited) Interesting. It’ll have nothing on our training camp trips! •Fireman Stan. •Wise v Davidson, Taggart and Elliott. •Half the team arrested falsely accused of rape. •Orgies. Anything else? Edited 16 February 2018 by Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain King Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 (edited) See post above Edited 16 February 2018 by pds Duplicate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain King Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 1 minute ago, Matt said: Interesting. It’ll have nothing on our training camp trips! •Fireman Stan. •Wise v Davidson, Taggart and Elliott. •Accusations of rape. •Orgies. Anything else? Allegedly stealing a taxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, pds said: Allegedly stealing a taxi Don't think I remember that one? EDIT - Sorry, I thought you meant that happened on one of our training camps. Edited 16 February 2018 by Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ron Combo Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 And apparently they left the restaurant at 5.30 IN THE MORNING. Love these winter break *training* trips especially when you're staring the Championship in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 27 minutes ago, Ron Combo said: And apparently they left the restaurant at 5.30 IN THE MORNING. Love these winter break *training* trips especially when you're staring the Championship in the face. oh dear, stole a taxi heard it all now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 We've all done it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 The only surprise is that Pardew wasn’t driving 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 On 14/02/2018 at 20:53, Md9 said: 72% and still can't win. Did they learn nothing. FFS please someone send Poch a 15/16 LCFC season DVD. No points in this game for keeping the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 Taxi for those West Brom players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 3 hours ago, pds said: Allegedly stealing a taxi Uber believe it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Md9 Posted 16 February 2018 Share Posted 16 February 2018 7 minutes ago, sylofox said: 72% and still can't win. Did they learn nothing. FFS please someone send Poch a 15/16 LCFC season DVD. No points in this game for keeping the ball It's silly how people think possession should automatically mean you should win ? Arsenal fans used to moan about it all the time, now they realise they are just shite ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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