reynard Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 3 hours ago, Vacamion said: There were more power cuts during the three day week under the Conservatives in 1974. True though I don't think any government of the mid to late 70s should be held up as the shining example of how to do things. Seem to recall Europe being at the heart of things back then as well!
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 2 minutes ago, MattP said: Of course it is, the two parties committed to Brexit and ending freedom of movement (and therefore leaving the single market if you take Donald Tusk at his word) got over 80% of the vote last night between them. Four weeks ago you were thinking a 100 seat majority at least no? The position that's landed will not only make negotiating an exit deal harder, they potentially accelerate uncertainty fears among business and reversals in UK growth. It could also reopen the divide in the Conservative party on the whole Europe position. If we end up with getting further austerity, 'no deal' and falling living standards - people's views on leaving may change further, especially if a credible movement rises challenging the convention that Brexit is a done deal.
leicsmac Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 3 minutes ago, Webbo said: Not much, there'll be some extra money spent in N.I. they won't want to change policy much apart from maybe Brexit. Fair enough.
ramboacdc Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 11 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: IRA this, Sinn Fein that for 5 weeks and the dead woman walking is jumping into her coffin with the UDA in suits. you've been on form in the last 24 hours.
Guest Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 30 minutes ago, Webbo said: Can you not see the change in circumstances? 20 years after peace process against in the middle of the troubles. I know I can't win this argument, people have made their minds up. It's either fake news to you or you don't give a shit. You can't win the argument because if the shoe were on the other foot there is no way on earth you'd accept the argument you are giving. It's wrong and you know it.
Rincewind Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 This is a good one I had as a reply on Facebook. Theresa May said she was going to deport terrorists so they and all their families got scared and voted Labour. I think they were actually seious and believed it. This was the reason given for how well Labour did and how badly UKIP did.
Webbo Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 1 minute ago, toddybad said: You can't win the argument because if the shoe were on the other for they're is no way on earth you'd accept the argument you are giving. It's wrong and you know it. If the shoe was on the other foot you wouldn't have a problem with the DUP either. This argument is pointless, Labour's had a good night, have your gloat, we've still got a tory govt.
MPH Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 I wonder what everyone thought about the result and what were the reasons for the Swing towards labour? Im surprised that there was such a big swing from the SNP to to labour.. Yes losing 12 seats for the conservativeis a massive game changer Do you think its a case of people massively getting behind Corbyn now? or does it show how loathed Theresa May is? A female John Major, maybe?!? SNP getting tactical in order to get another independence vote? I'd be interested in other peoples opinions....
Guest MattP Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 25 minutes ago, ramboacdc said: they will believe another leader will actually strengthen their leads in their constiuency's. Something, i have to say, i agree with. A lot of people voted on a national level here and don't see May as a leader. the feeling now is that May has gambled, lost, refused to give up, gone to the queen with no plan and asked for a governement and pegged it back into number 10. The sun called brown "the squatter in number 10" she is currently Frank underwood. They wouldn't risk it, it would be absolutely ridiculous to take the chance after what happened last night. 21 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: The DUP are the party who's values and policies I side with the least - I now have absolute zero respect for the Tory's getting in to bed with such a group. It will be their downfall. They should have handed it o Labour to make a minority mess and come back stronger with a different leader. Now it will take longer for them to go but go they will and they won't bounce back for 2 elections. How? Even if you put all the left wing parties together they don't have anywhere near enough seats to be able to get a Queen's speech through, it's impossible. Although I'm all ears as to what legitimacy Labour would have to run a minority government, they came second in every country apart from Wales and came second in number of votes and seats - why should the Tories hand that over? They did better than expected but the country still rejected them. The realise how toxic the DUP could be, hence running the government as a "minority" rather than an outright coalition. 16 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Four weeks ago you were thinking a 100 seat majority at least no? The position that's landed will not only make negotiating an exit deal harder, they potentially accelerate uncertainty fears among business and reversals in UK growth. It could also reopen the divide in the Conservative party on the whole Europe position. If we end up with getting further austerity, 'no deal' and falling living standards - people's views on leaving may change further, especially if a credible movement rises challenging the convention that Brexit is a done deal. I was, but that's irrelevant. The fact is the four parties that backed a second referendum didn't get 15% of the vote - the ones that are committed to Brexit or some sort got over 80% of the vote. There is no logic at all for a second referendum.
Webbo Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 3 minutes ago, MPH said: I wonder what everyone thought about the result and what were the reasons for the Swing towards labour? Im surprised that there was such a big swing from the SNP to to labour.. Yes losing 12 seats for the conservativeis a massive game changer Do you think its a case of people massively getting behind Corbyn now? or does it show how loathed Theresa May is? A female John Major, maybe?!? SNP getting tactical in order to get another independence vote? I'd be interested in other peoples opinions.... It's a very strange election, the tories improved their share of the vote it's just that Labour improved their's more. 44% of the vote would be a landslide in the last 10 elections.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 6 minutes ago, MattP said: The fact is the two parties that backed a second referendum didn't get 10% of the vote - the ones that are committed to Brexit or some sort got over 90% of the vote. There is no logic at all for a second referendum. That's because those two parties chose the wrong time to run that promise... nothing has materially changed Brexit wise from the referendum to now, but give it a year when the sort of deal we're getting becomes clearer. Given the governing situation, we could end up with people on different sides championing a second referendum, one because the deal doesn't detach us enough.
Bobby Hundreds Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 Surely now the worst thing May has ever done isn't run through a field of wheat?
Guest MattP Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 35 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: IRA this, Sinn Fein that for 5 weeks and the dead woman walking is jumping into her coffin with the UDA in suits. She'll have a Ghandi peace prize in 5 years mate.
lgfualol Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 1 minute ago, Bobby Hundreds said: Surely now the worst thing May has ever done isn't run through a field of wheat? What she missed from that answer is that she was running through a wheat field with pitchfork while chasing a disabled person
Tom17LCFC Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 Question to those who voted Tory... Are you happy for May to stay on?
MPH Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 1 minute ago, Tom17LCFC said: Question to those who voted Tory... Are you happy for May to stay on? Depends what the alternative is!
Bobby Hundreds Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 Just now, MPH said: Depends what the alternative is! Boris, Gove, or David Davis
Guest Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 32 minutes ago, Webbo said: If the shoe was on the other foot you wouldn't have a problem with the DUP either. This argument is pointless, Labour's had a good night, have your gloat, we've still got a tory govt. For now
Guest MattP Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 2 minutes ago, Tom17LCFC said: Question to those who voted Tory... Are you happy for May to stay on? No, but if her going means another election then I'll put up with it until the Brexit negotiations are concluded. Soon as that's done though she hands it over.
Webbo Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 4 minutes ago, Tom17LCFC said: Question to those who voted Tory... Are you happy for May to stay on? Mixed feelings. She certainly should go but with the Brexit negotiating starting soon we don't need a another leadership contest atm.
Bobby Hundreds Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 Wonder what Ruth Davidson and Nigel Evans think about cosying up to the DUP?
Sharpe's Fox Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 15 minutes ago, MattP said: She'll have a Ghandi peace prize in 5 years mate. Not if she joins Peter Robinson on another armed invasion of the Republic. Maybe it'll be her Falklands? Or perhaps she'll meet the Pope and call him Satan, those Protestants have to stick together after all.
ozleicester Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 lmao The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) is the largest shower of ***** in Westminister and the third-largest in Northern Ireland. Founded by Ian Paisley after ****ing a badger paved into a gypsy tarmac, it is the largest incident of mass suicide in Northern Ireland's history following the rape and murder of Theresa May's youngest son, actor and comedian Pope Francis. The DUP has historically strong links to BDSM nightclubs, particularly the Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster (the church Paisley founded) and has traditionally been regarded as the more sexually agressive of the two large unionist parties. However, this influence reduced somewhat under Peter Robinson's leadership in an attempt to reach out to non-Protestants, particularly socially conservative Catholics.[7][8] Following on from the St Andrews Agreement in October 2006, the DUP agreed with the Irish republican party Sinn Féin to enter into power-sharing devolved government in Northern Ireland. In the aftermath of the agreement there were reports of divisions within the DUP. Many of its leading members, including Members of Parliament (MPs) Nigel Dodds, David Simpson and Gregory Campbell, were claimed to be in opposition to Paisley. All the party's MPs fully signed up to the manifesto for the 2007 Assembly elections, supporting power-sharing in principle. An overwhelming majority of the party executive voted in favour of restoring devolution in a meeting in March 2007;[9] however, the DUP's sole Member of the European Parliament (MEP), Jim Allister,[10] and seven DUP councillors[11] later resigned from the party in opposition to its plans to share power with Sinn Féin. They founded the Traditional Unionist Voice in December 2007.[12] The DUP are cowardly shits who need to be slaughtered with cythes. The Conservative government let this happen and your children will be smeared in faeces and made into nuclear anus weapons to bollocks fellatio vote for dup YOUR CUNTING DAUGHTER.Although the party is primarily active in Northern Ireland politics, from 2004–05 it had one representative from the English constituency of Basingstoke, as a result of a defection to the party.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 9 June 2017 Posted 9 June 2017 Running through wheat fields with these fcukers Now that's naughty
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