easilee Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 59 minutes ago, Foxesmints said: and then selfishly shoot wide. In over 50 years of watching City Mahrez is easily the most naturally gifted player I have seen play for us. Sadly can't see him stopping for next season but if he does then the new team should be built around him. Gladly can't see Mahrez staying. Who knows how Gray would have progressed if he had started or played in games that everyone was screaming for him to. I would rue Gray leaving more than Mahrez. Even the Algerian fans have stopped harassing us.......says it all.
Guest Col city fan Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 2 minutes ago, Babylon said: I'm judging him, he's been average a lot.... the "better than" or "could be better than" Kante stuff was over blown. Got a big future, but how some judge his performances compared to others is baffling at times. Again, he's the victim of a club who's recruitment in the summer was nearing unbelievably dire. Ndidi should have been brought into the first team slowly and gradually, and be learning from those around him who are clearly better and more experienced. The fact that we have no-one any good in that area (except Drinkwater when on form) has meant he's had to be thrust in at the age of 20 and consistently played. Week-in, week-out. It's the wrong way to do it, but as I've said before (and I think you've argued with me over this?), the club has been run in a pretty shambolic way since last summer. To expect the kid to continue to be great every week, ain't fair.
justfoxes Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 ARSENHOLE ARE A BUNCH OF CHEATING CNUTS NOW TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT GAME AND MUCH NEEDED WIN PLEASE !!
LcFc_Smiv Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 6 minutes ago, jon1bc said: Oh let's not play the Mahrez was shit record again, sick of hearing it. Gray is not up to it and never will be a Mahrez replacement He has absolute shite like Drinkwater playing next to him who can only pass backwards He has mupped Ulloa ahead of him who puts absolutely fk all effort in tracking back Fk this if I were him looking at some of the pathetic comments on here i'd be off to somewhere I'd be appreciated Think you need to watch it agin then because he was back defending a lot of the time which is half of the frustration that while,it's great he does his defensive duties we immediately lost the big man to aim for with those long balls we persisted with.
shen Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 34 minutes ago, LcFc_Smiv said: Those defending Mahrez ??? the guy is miles off it, look at the work rate and effort other players are putting in even if the quality isn't always there. I genuinely can't believe people feel he offers a threat, the only threat he's offered is that of turning possession over. He holds on to the ball for far too long and as a result potential attacks break down because of it. Yes it's great when he cuts in and out on the edge of the box but not when you know his ball is going into the keepers hands at the near post of not beating the first man following a feeble attempt at a chip. He didn't lose possession countless times today. For that, look no further than Drinkwater, Ulloa, Albrighton and Fuchs. These days he's being forced to receive the ball just outside our own box facing our own goal while closely monitored giving him no space to turn. That said, he can be better at releasing the ball and make a run, but his teammates are lacking the necessary quality under pressure. At the other end, Okazaki and Drinkwater are not reliable enough to make quick and precise combinations while Mahrez isn't as sharp as last season. Was last season a one-off? I don't know but he still contributes. Point is, you can have all the effort in the world, but without quality you aren't going anywhere.
Foxesmints Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 2 minutes ago, easilee said: I would rue Gray leaving more than Mahrez Should've gone to Specsavers
StanSP Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 6 minutes ago, Babylon said: He was ineffective because he's not suited to the game we ended up in. I don't blame him for that at all. He and Vards fed of scraps and Leo also had to sit deeper than him. It was a tactical mistake, compounded by not changing it. i'd expect that whenever he gets the ball to at least have some way of controlling it or using his body and physical presence. that didn't happen in one bit. That's not even tactics. That's just inability to do basic things. I genuinely cannot recall him making one pass today and that's because he couldn't control it properly to give off that pass.
easilee Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 59 minutes ago, Foxesmints said: Should've gone to Specsavers Went.............20/20 vision. Especially for the future. Gray will blossom after we sell him.
EGBFitness Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 28 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Diving was in the 94th minute - game was over sitting back on a lead is a different thing because the opposition become less controlled as time ticks by and they are even more nervous of our ability to break on them. Sitting back on a 0-0 for most of the game when the opposition are mentally unstable if they were to go behind is overly negative to me. They got in behnd us on several occasions but werent good good enough to exploit it - that's the point- they are not playing with any confidence and we could have got at them. We have had a week off. This was the chance to let the players try and put the only blot on last season right. It felt more like Claudio's tactics. I understood paying leo gave us the option to change 3-5-2 but at no point did we look like replicating the intensity of last week's second half. Doesn't matter how we lose does it? A goal is a goal. got fed up with losing by an unlucky goal under the previous manager. we have shown we can get at capable opposition if the manager allows the players to do so. I am surprised that shakey didn't do that tonight. The game should have been viewed as a free hit. Not an opportunity to eek out a dull point. It's a matter of opinion but the fact is we never win at Arsenal away and the diving/simulation was happening before the 94th minute. Game wasn't over either, hence the reason why they was doing it to break up our play/momentum. Arsenal at at home last season is a prime example of what happens when you press high and play a like minded attacking style, we frustrated them with little opportunities in front of a crowd dissillusioned who'd of expected them to be a few up at half time against little Leicester. I don't quite understand why when big clubs go to Arsenal and play a defensive game to see a draw/ nick a 1-0 it's a masterclass but we're expected to attack them just because they are low on confidence and we've had a week off. Pick up a draw tonight (which we deserved) and win at WBA which is more realistically we'd of been sitting on 41 points and practically safe. We play WBA in 3 days time in a game we would expect to get 3 points from rather than Arsenal away so sitting deep, frustrating opposition with hope of 1-0 and managing fitness/fatigue with a lower energy performance would of been seen as a masteclass by Shakey tonight. We lost to a deflected goal that was way off target, you'd think we got spanked tonight reading your posts. Unlucky goal in CR? We was getting spanked 3/4-0 by teams, get your facts right before you make ridiculous statements.
Ricey Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 Ulloa was very poor but I'm more concerned as to how tired Ndidi looked in the second half. Not for the first time either. Tonight he was making tired challenges and not tracking or closing quickly enough. Very good again when tackling and passing, but I had thought he had more stamina than that.
fuchsntf Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 It was like going back to our crap days.....Its not the loss but the performance. As a fan, tell me what confidence, can I take for our last 5 games...??? Does this mean we are waiting for just 2 games, to save us.... With such presentation and performances, we are definitly in trouble.... I dont care what games the teams below have....they can play attacking football, even against top teams.
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 1 hour ago, Mickyblueeyes said: You know, what does Shinji do apart from his running. His footballing skills are atrocious. I swear you could pick a fan from the ground who was in good shape and they could easily do what Okazaki does. As a footballer he adds nothing. Other players get criticised. Mahrez, Drinkwater etc but this guy steals a living at times. We were so much better when he came on, he brings more to the team with his work rate off the ball, you've a far too simplistic view. He flatters to deceive I guess, and he isn't the most talented player but he is a very important player in our set up imo.
Foxesmints Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 2 minutes ago, easilee said: Gray will blossom after we sell him. But will he blossom if we keep him?
EnglishOxide Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 Shakey isn't going to get the job setting us up like that. Tbf he did say that he was disappointed we weren't more positive with the ball and that could have been fixed by not starting Ulloa over Shinji. Problem solved and i hope he sees that. Ulloa said he would never play for us again and shouldn't be selected just because he might have been unfairly treated by the past manager and felt sorry for. No way would a more authoritive figure like Big Nige have welcomed him back into the team after running his mouth in public. The match felt like a game pre great escape where we were learning our trade and keeping it tight at the expense of attacking and exposing ourselves. And then getting done by the odd unfortunate goal. We are better than playing like that nowadays, and we have set higher standards for ourselves. Shakey should realise that and trust in our attackers like Shinji and Gray because both are much better than Nugent and Schluup.
TMELcfc Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 Whether they got lucky or not, we've gone too many times away from home hoping to draw and it's getting boring. It's basically 88 mins of defending... and hoping we might get one good/lucky break. Can only come up with one positive, N'Didi is a class above and wriggles out of tight spaces and plays it simple.
easilee Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 58 minutes ago, Foxesmints said: But will he blossom if we keep him? Let's Fúcking find out for once! lol!
lcfcsnow Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 4 minutes ago, Ricey said: Ulloa was very poor but I'm more concerned as to how tired Ndidi looked in the second half. Not for the first time either. Tonight he was making tired challenges and not tracking or closing quickly enough. Very good again when tackling and passing, but I had thought he had more stamina than that. It was his 52nd game of the season to be fair.
jon1bc Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 4 minutes ago, Ricey said: Ulloa was very poor but I'm more concerned as to how tired Ndidi looked in the second half. Not for the first time either. Tonight he was making tired challenges and not tracking or closing quickly enough. Very good again when tackling and passing, but I had thought he had more stamina than that. Yep I noticed this too he looked very lethargic at time
EGBFitness Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 3 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: It was like going back to our crap days.....Its not the loss but the performance. As a fan, tell me what confidence, can I take for our last 5 games...??? Does this mean we are waiting for just 2 games, to save us.... With such presentation and performances, we are definitly in trouble.... I dont care what games the teams below have....they can play attacking football, even against top teams. Well minus tonight you have 2 games against maybe one of the best teams in Europe we held our own against and deserved more, Palace we threw away ourselves but still good performance especially after midweek game in Madrid, Everton which we had good spells but quite clearly one eye on the Madrid game and then Sunderland game which was the 6th win in a row we had. Talk about a knee jerk reaction after a 1-0 deflected goal loss to Arsenal
st albans fox Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 7 minutes ago, EGBFitness said: It's a matter of opinion but the fact is we never win at Arsenal away and the diving/simulation was happening before the 94th minute. Game wasn't over either, hence the reason why they was doing it to break up our play/momentum. Arsenal at at home last season is a prime example of what happens when you press high and play a like minded attacking style, we frustrated them with little opportunities in front of a crowd dissillusioned who'd of expected them to be a few up at half time against little Leicester. I don't quite understand why when big clubs go to Arsenal and play a defensive game to see a draw/ nick a 1-0 it's a masterclass but we're expected to attack them just because they are low on confidence and we've had a week off. Pick up a draw tonight (which we deserved) and win at WBA which is more realistically we'd of been sitting on 41 points and practically safe. We play WBA in 3 days time in a game we would expect to get 3 points from rather than Arsenal away so sitting deep, frustrating opposition with hope of 1-0 and managing fitness/fatigue with a lower energy performance would of been seen as a masteclass by Shakey tonight. We lost to a deflected goal that was way off target, you'd think we got spanked tonight reading your posts. Unlucky goal in CR? We was getting spanked 3/4-0 by teams, get your facts right before you make ridiculous statements. you think we need 41 points ? Really? I'm not talking about the capitulations, I'm talking about the teams we should have got results against where we lost by one or occasionally two. We surrendered those games when a different attitude was required. I should have put unlucky in quotes. We weren't unlucky. You make your own luck. Who dares etc etc. Ranieri kept calling it unlucky. If was rarely thus. You missed my intended sarcasm.
LcFc_Smiv Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 8 minutes ago, shen said: He didn't lose possession countless times today. For that, look no further than Drinkwater, Ulloa, Albrighton and Fuchs. These days he's being forced to receive the ball just outside our own box facing our own goal while closely monitored giving him no space to turn. That said, he can be better at releasing the ball and make a run, but his teammates are lacking the necessary quality under pressure. At the other end, Okazaki and Drinkwater are not reliable enough to make quick and precise combinations while Mahrez isn't as sharp as last season. Was last season a one-off? I don't know but he still contributes. Point is, you can have all the effort in the world, but without quality you aren't going anywhere. Others in the team have no way near as much quality as him and they have still managed to carry him for the last 8 or so games. He wasn't dispossessed as much tonight but he still didn't produce much. Everyone is aware of DD's poor form and he is getting just as much stick. I don't know what we expect of Ulloa when the only support we offered around him was Vardy who was largely marked out of the game. Albrighton didn't produce much either but we look for more positive with him attacking from the left, his weaker side, as he shows far more intent. The bottom line is that he's not producing anything, as he's not one to get stuck in too challenges and chase down other players, work that Albrighton, Ulloa and numerous others do put in then I'm at a loss to what we do with him. The fact is he others very little ATM.
eastendfox Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 Some usual post defeat nonsense here, we played like that because everyone knows you put 10 men behind the ball at Arsenal, let them try and pass it in, hope to score on the break and maybe not concede. We nearly did it, and everyone put a shift in. Yes, our passing was often poor, but we had chances to win. Bet it would have looked different on here if Shinji scores and the deflection doesn't go in. We should pick up points in other games. Mean time thank god I don't bave to watch Arsenal again this season, so much talent, such a pedestrian approach.
Karljohn Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 We lacked ambition, intent and penetration. Would like to see a quality attacking midfielder brought in.
EGBFitness Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: you think we need 41 points ? Really? I'm not talking about the capitulations, I'm talking about the teams we should have got results against where we lost by one or occasionally two. We surrendered those games when a different attitude was required. I should have put unlucky in quotes. We weren't unlucky. You make your own luck. Who dares etc etc. Ranieri kept calling it unlucky. If was rarely thus. You missed my intended sarcasm. Welll you have Hull on 33 and Swansea 31 who are both still picking results up so you never really know. You'd like to think 37/38 points would be enough to stay up but as West Ham had gone down on 40 points before and teams below us still picking up results I'd say it's better to be safe than sorry. A draw tonight and win Saturday id say is realistic that anyone would of taken before the game tonight.
Foxesmints Posted 26 April 2017 Posted 26 April 2017 14 minutes ago, easilee said: Let's Fúcking find out for once! lol! Let's. Nothing against Gray hopefully in time he will mature into being a good player. I would play him against WBA and put Mahrez in behind Vardy with a free role.
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