Arsenal Post Match Thread

[oxtonfox]

2 minutes ago, StanSP said:

really wish Huth would have right hooked Sanchez as well. The ****ing Chilean cvnt, 

That player is a disgrace to football. Falling over to try and get Huth sent off. Appalling behaviour, a cheating player. If that had been Vardy there would be an FA inquest as it is nothing will be done. 

[StanSP]

2 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Really?  So you don't think his performance is dictated by our "tactics"? It was obvious that whatever the plan was for Leo it didn't work and he should have been replaced at half time. 

 

That was a poor effort and tactically I thought it was wrong early on.  That's our worst attempt at their ground since promotion.

 

I get what we were trying but the reaction to it not working was slow. We can harp on about a lucky deflection all night, but we invited it and lived on the edge all night.

Tactics or not, he couldn't hold the ball up very well. Lost possession too many times and didn't really make anything difficult for their defence.

 

I do agree that the change could and should have come sooner (Was also crying out for him to be replaced at HT). But while Leo was on the pitch, he was ineffective and useless. 

[Chown]

Shakespeare's getting some unfair criticism on here. Leicester looked very comfortable and deserved a 0-0 (which would have been a good result) but were undone by fluke goal. I'm not sure about this 'it was a free hit' nonsense either. Free hits don't exist in the Premier League anymore. Do people really believe we should have just gone all out attack? Hell, why we're at it, why bother with a goalkeeper? And let's pull Iwan Roberts out of retirement and put him up front so we have an extra striker. It is a 'free hit' after all. I'm joking of course but, come on, is a 1-0 defeat away to arsenal really the time to get on the manager's back?

[oohaahmustafa]

Should of played Shinji from the start. Should just play the title winning team in every game until they all die of old age tbh. (Ndidi for Kante)

[Guest bennytwohats]

7 minutes ago, StanSP said:

really wish Huth would have right hooked Sanchez as well. The ****ing Chilean cvnt, 

What's him being Chilean got to do with it?

[Johnthefoxrayner]

14 minutes ago, justfoxes said:

This game called out for Gray god knows why it took nearly 90 minutes for Shaky to bring him on ?

Keeping gray fresh for Saturday IMO he will start against w brom 

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 minutes ago, bennytwohats said:

What's him being Chilean got to do with it?

In the same way that Dennis Wise is an English bell-end.

[st albans fox]

5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

He's had some great performances... but he's also had some exceptionally poor ones. You judge him on 90 min averages and he's well... average in al lot of areas.

Wasn't judging his performance - just his ability to jump high enough to win his share of aerial duels and wondering if a dodgy groin isn't helping. 

[Tuna]

4 minutes ago, bennytwohats said:

What's him being Chilean got to do with it?

I think you're looking for things that aren't there.

[Aus Fox]

4 minutes ago, bennytwohats said:

What's him being Chilean got to do with it?

If I remember correctly from my school days, we called them adjectives.

[Johnthefoxrayner]

4 minutes ago, Chown said:

Shakespeare's getting some unfair criticism on here. Leicester looked very comfortable and deserved a 0-0 (which would have been a good result) but were undone by fluke goal. I'm not sure about this 'it was a free hit' nonsense either. Free hits don't exist in the Premier League anymore. Do people really believe we should have just gone all out attack? Hell, why we're at it, why bother with a goalkeeper? And let's pull Iwan Roberts out of retirement and put him up front so we have an extra striker. It is a 'free hit' after all. I'm joking of course but, come on, is a 1-0 defeat away to arsenal really the time to get on the manager's back?

Agreed. Shakey has done a great job so far. Let's get behind the boys instead of criticing. 

 

[BoyJones]

I like Ulloa. But he was awful tonite, as MON would say , "my grandma could have done better!"

 

easy to to be wise after the event, but wrong choice by Shakey 

[easilee]

1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

In the same way that Dennis Wise is an English bell-end.

I concur

[Babylon]

Just now, st albans fox said:

Wasn't judging his performance - just his ability to jump high enough to win his share of aerial duels and wondering if a dodgy groin isn't helping. 

I'm judging him, he's been average a lot.... the "better than" or "could be better than" Kante stuff was over blown.

 

Got a big future, but how some judge his performances compared to others is baffling at times.

[st albans fox]

8 minutes ago, Chown said:

Shakespeare's getting some unfair criticism on here. Leicester looked very comfortable and deserved a 0-0 (which would have been a good result) but were undone by fluke goal. I'm not sure about this 'it was a free hit' nonsense either. Free hits don't exist in the Premier League anymore. Do people really believe we should have just gone all out attack? Hell, why we're at it, why bother with a goalkeeper? And let's pull Iwan Roberts out of retirement and put him up front so we have an extra striker. It is a 'free hit' after all. I'm joking of course but, come on, is a 1-0 defeat away to arsenal really the time to get on the manager's back?

I'm fed up of not beating them. they did the frigging double over us when we win the bloody league. We had a chance to try and go for it tonight. We could have lost 3-0 but we could also have drawn 2-2 or lost 3-2. I know which the players would have preferred. It was a free hit because it didn't matter if we got nothing tonight. We have plenty of opportunities to get three more points.  The atmosphere there would have got toxic if we had got infront. So frustrated - the players will be too. 

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

Should have done better. They won by a jammy goal and had all the luck of the ball and ref decisions all game I felt. 

 

We were dogged but didnt threaten enough in second half. 

 

No one can argue the Shakey lack of subs was just bizarre. Bringing Gray on that late was pointless. And Ulloa off meant high balls up to no one.

 

Not sure what was shitter....Arsenal performance or atmosphere. 

 

Didn't deserve to lose but should have done better

[jon1bc]

Oh let's not play the Mahrez was shit record again, sick of hearing it.

 

Gray is not up to it and never will be a Mahrez replacement

He has absolute shite like Drinkwater playing next to him who can only pass backwards

He has mupped Ulloa ahead of him who puts absolutely fk all effort in tracking back

Fk this if I were him looking at some of the pathetic comments on here i'd be off to somewhere I'd be appreciated

[Ricey]

It was like watching away performances under Ranieri this season. No tenacity, no pressing, too deep, too pedestrian on the ball and too slow to begin counters.

 

I guess we were playing for 0-0 but I'm frustrated that at HT we didn't decided to get at a team clearly playing badly amongst a horrible atmosphere. It's what we do best.

 

I wanted us to prove to people that we can challenge for top 6 next season. Instead we looked like a team that had written the game off.

[oxtonfox]

Lets not blame Ulloa - he has hardly had a sniff this year and is not the only one to have had a bad game tonight. In fact there are a few in the team who have had several bad games.  I would play him at West Brom to be honest in the hope that we can provide better service to him and Vardy and that he has a much better game. COYB 

[Foxesmints]

46 minutes ago, easilee said:

give Gray a chance. 

At least he can still take players on and beat them.

and then selfishly shoot wide. 

 

In over 50 years of watching City Mahrez is easily the most naturally gifted player I have seen play for us. Sadly can't see him stopping for next season but if he does then the new team should be built around him.

[Guest bennytwohats]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

Deserved nowt and got nowt. why we give away the initiative so easily beats me. inviting them on for most of the game generally ends the same way. We battled hard but we are better than Middlesbrough so why play like them. 

On point.

 

Invited them on for way too long. Only their own fault they didn't bury us way earlier in the game. 

 

Game was crying out for Gray around 60/70 minutes. Disappointed we were so negative and slow to respond.

[Babylon]

10 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Tactics or not, he couldn't hold the ball up very well. Lost possession too many times and didn't really make anything difficult for their defence.

 

I do agree that the change could and should have come sooner (Was also crying out for him to be replaced at HT). But while Leo was on the pitch, he was ineffective and useless. 

He was ineffective because he's not suited to the game we ended up in. I don't blame him for that at all. He and Vards fed of scraps and Leo also had to sit deeper than him. It was a tactical mistake, compounded by not changing it.

[lgfualol]

21 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Can Ulloa vow never to play for our club again please?

 

Ridiculously slow. Played like he was running in treacle all game. Not that aerially great. Just pretty shite all round.

 

People give slim shit for not winning headers from hoofs but Ulloa didn't win too many and gave away free kicks every other try. I think a lot of people forgot how slow he is as well.

 

Ulloa is someone you need when you're trying to get a winner or an equaliser against a parked bus, he can't start in this system again unless it is against someone crap. I dont think he would be happy being this guy so will no doubt leave.

[LFEFox23]

4 minutes ago, BoyJones said:

I like Ulloa. But he was awful tonite, as MON would say , "my grandma could have done better!"

 

easy to to be wise after the event, but wrong choice by Shakey 

 

Fully agree, Looked slow and off the pace!

 

The quicker Brighton come in for him the better...

 

Thanks for everything Leo but you lost me in January.

[Monsell1976]

Don't get tonight's tactics, go and play for a draw, after arsenal are lacking in confidence, crowd groaning at every missed pass, most want the manager gone, and they played 120 minutes Sunday.

It's not like it's a must not lose game, we should have gone at them from the first whistle, and make them feel like they played 120 minutes.

Very negative, and frustrating game from us, and the players looked frustrated at the end.

Then to bring Okazaki on, probably our most in affective player, has offered nothing for a long time, can't keep the ball, can't score, so in affect, a wasted substitution.

Shakey has done well to steady the ship, and this is the first game, I have felt the need to be critical, but if he wants to keep the job, he needs to have a good run in, to prove he is capable long term, and not just a very good number 2.

Moan over, hopefully better again Saturday