AmarteyAndChill Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 2 minutes ago, foxes21 said: Have you ever seen James play? I think Drinkwater's passing style suites us perfectly. He is very direct and prefers through balls, balls over the top and diagonal balls instead of sideways and backwards. These passes are more high risk though, so Danny's success rate isn't as high as some midfielders but his directness goes hand in hand with how we like to play. I agree, I don't think CM is the problem. Need a CAM and a couple of CBs... Maybe a RB
ClaphamFox Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 6 minutes ago, foxes21 said: Have you ever seen James play? I think Drinkwater's passing style suites us perfectly. He is very direct and prefers through balls, balls over the top and diagonal balls instead of sideways and backwards. These passes are more high risk though, so Danny's success rate isn't as high as some midfielders but his directness goes hand in hand with how we like to play. We are allowed to evolve and improve the way we play. I believe it is possible for us to retain our high-press, counter-attacking style while improving our ball retention and adding more to our creative threat through the middle. If we can find a high quality midfielder who can help us to do that, we should try to sign him. If our policy is not to sign good new players because we're scared that some of our existing players might not like it, we'll sink back into mediocrity before you know it.
Mease Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 For those who think CM is not an issue what make you think that any of the below are good enough to compete for the 1st team and not finish in the lower parts of the premier league? I want to be convinced but can't see it Mendy Amartey James Lawrence King Too many questions/gambles for me, can carry a few gambles or journeyman in your squad but all in the same area of the pitch, nope not for me CM/AM needs looking at for sure.
Livid Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 7 minutes ago, Mease said: For those who think CM is not an issue what make you think that any of the below are good enough to compete for the 1st team and not finish in the lower parts of the premier league? I want to be convinced but can't see it Mendy Amartey James Lawrence King Too many questions/gambles for me, can carry a few gambles or journeyman in your squad but all in the same area of the pitch, nope not for me CM/AM needs looking at for sure. I agree, Drinkwater came in for James and was great in the season that followed, last year he wasn't at that level. I know he's been carrying an injury, but who can say what we will see next season. Ndidi looks decent so far but we have so many question marks over the rest of them? We need more of an attacking threat from midfield, the reason the opposition get away with double/triple marking Mahrez is because they know we don't have much more of a threat. The whole spine of the squad needs strengthening with definite starters.
brucey Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 Difficult one, we could get an improvement over our starters/backups easily, but that would mean shipping someone out without giving them a chance as we have far too many CMs now. Especially as it sounds like Barnes and James will both be given opportunities. Gut feeling is that we won't get one. I don't think it's a priority. I'd leave it and reassess in Jan, I suspect that's what Shakey will do too.
m4DD0gg Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 100% yes. An injury to either N'didi or Drinkwater and we are screwed because the rest are either total dross or crocked. Hope James can make it back but i doubt it. Performing well at a mid table championship club on loan and ambitions for top 6 in the premier league are two very different things.
Spicer Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 We need to stop considering playing Amartey as a midfielder, he is a center back. We certainly should take James back as he could actually provide competition for places. As for people saying Lawrence, I thought he was a striker/winger, not a central midfield?
Ian Nacho Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 Without a shadow of a doubt. I think we're okay with defensive midfielders with the likes of N'didi, Amartey, Mendy (who we haven't seen play 100% fit) as well as young prospects as backup such as Choudhury. However, other than Drinkwater, who I feel has been very inconsistent this year, we have no real creative options in midfield as King isn't good enough to be starting week in week out. I think we need to buy someone to give Drinkwater some competition to really push him if anything we can buy a creative midfielder better than Drinkwater as this season I think we've really lacked drive from midfield that we had last year as Kanté created so much space for Drinkwater.
ClaphamFox Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 2 hours ago, brucey said: Difficult one, we could get an improvement over our starters/backups easily, but that would mean shipping someone out without giving them a chance as we have far too many CMs now. Especially as it sounds like Barnes and James will both be given opportunities. Gut feeling is that we won't get one. I don't think it's a priority. I'd leave it and reassess in Jan, I suspect that's what Shakey will do too. We've been crying out for a genuine creative midfielder for years. Ndidi and Drinkwater will not provide anything like the creative threat we need from central midfield, and we don't know for certain that anybody else on the books will be able to either. Now that Mahrez is definitely leaving and our threat from out wide will be reduced no matter who takes his place, the need for creativity in central midfield is even greater. It's absolutely a priority.
Guest Col city fan Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said: We've been crying out for a genuine creative midfielder for years. Ndidi and Drinkwater will not provide anything like the creative threat we need from central midfield, and we don't know for certain that anybody else on the books will be able to either. Now that Mahrez is definitely leaving and our threat from out wide will be reduced no matter who takes his place, the need for creativity in central midfield is even greater. It's absolutely a priority. Spot on. Priority number one
smudger63 Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said: We've been crying out for a genuine creative midfielder for years. Ndidi and Drinkwater will not provide anything like the creative threat we need from central midfield, and we don't know for certain that anybody else on the books will be able to either. Now that Mahrez is definitely leaving and our threat from out wide will be reduced no matter who takes his place, the need for creativity in central midfield is even greater. It's absolutely a priority. Absolutely this!
brucey Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 2 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: We've been crying out for a genuine creative midfielder for years. Ndidi and Drinkwater will not provide anything like the creative threat we need from central midfield, and we don't know for certain that anybody else on the books will be able to either. Now that Mahrez is definitely leaving and our threat from out wide will be reduced no matter who takes his place, the need for creativity in central midfield is even greater. It's absolutely a priority. Of course we'll probably play better if we signed say Adrien Silva for 35m to play alongside Ndidi. If we sign Silva for 35m he will be playing week in week out (if he's any good). So will Ndidi as we're not going to find a better defensive midfielder. We won't play 3 in midfield. What do we do with the rest of them? Mendy - could easily get rid of him at a loss and saying 'sorry, tough luck with the injury on your debut, but you were a Ranieri signing and our new manager doesn't want you, we know you haven't had a chance but go away' King/Amartey - will be happy to sit on the bench/in the stands as 6th choice, so that's fine Barnes - could turf him out on a Championship loan even though ITKs have said he'll be involved with the first team next season so that's probably what he's expecting The issue: What to do about Drinky and James - two very popular players among the squad? Sell? Let them know that they will be sat on the bench permanently unless Silva/Ndidi gets injured? This after Shakey has said James will be 'given every opportunity' next season?
AmarteyAndChill Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 Just now, brucey said: Of course we'll probably play better if we signed say Adrien Silva for 35m to play alongside Ndidi. If we sign Silva for 35m he will be playing week in week out (if he's any good). So will Ndidi as we're not going to find a better defensive midfielder. We won't play 3 in midfield. What do we do with the rest of them? Mendy - could easily get rid of him at a loss and saying 'sorry, tough luck with the injury on your debut, but you were a Ranieri signing and our new manager doesn't want you, we know you haven't had a chance but go away' King/Amartey - will be happy to sit on the bench/in the stands as 6th choice, so that's fine Barnes - could turf him out on a Championship loan even though ITKs have said he'll be involved with the first team next season so that's probably what he's expecting The issue: What to do about Drinky and James - two very popular players among the squad? Sell? Let them know that they will be sat on the bench permanently unless Silva/Ndidi gets injured? This after Shakey has said James will be 'given every opportunity' next season? Apparently Silva will only cost us £23m if we were to sign him this summer.
lgfualol Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 20 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said: Apparently Silva will only cost us £23m if we were to sign him this summer. Wow get it done
Thracian Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 No ambiguity - I'd be wanting to sign the best attacking midfielder I can find. The rest can sort themselves out according to form, fitness and attitude. Kingy might still be one of our best "turn to's" or "game closer's" on the bench because I can't imagine the likes of Mendy, James or Amartey fancying that kind of life or James and Lawrence either if they don't get time on the pitch if we field a midfield three of N'didi, Drinky and any new signing.
DatfoxesKid23 Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 Definitely now that maherz is gone for sure get Ramirez
RoyFox Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 My Sporting mate told me that Silva will be available now (backed up by another Sporting guy who's been here recently). €25m, so £22m. Worth it at that price as long as we also get a CAM/10 to replace Okazaki (Silva isn't a huge playmaker, rather like Drinky).
AmarteyAndChill Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 25 minutes ago, RoyFox said: My Sporting mate told me that Silva will be available now (backed up by another Sporting guy who's been here recently). €25m, so £22m. Worth it at that price as long as we also get a CAM/10 to replace Okazaki (Silva isn't a huge playmaker, rather like Drinky). 2 x CB, Adrien Silva & Boudebouz...? & that's if no players leave.
RoyFox Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 54 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said: 2 x CB, Adrien Silva & Boudebouz...? & that's if no players leave. Yes please (and a RB, and Ulloa replacement - that's greedy though!)
AmarteyAndChill Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 2 minutes ago, RoyFox said: Yes please (and a RB, and Ulloa replacement - that's greedy though!) Yeah I was thinking 'worse case scenario'
UPinCarolina Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 On 5/30/2017 at 18:55, DatfoxesKid23 said: Definitely now that maherz is gone for sure get Ramirez No. He's trash. Silva on the other hand... I had a dream we signed him, so it must be.
UPinCarolina Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 3 hours ago, AmarteyAndChill said: 2 x CB, Adrien Silva & Boudebouz...? & that's if no players leave. Boudebouz
weller54 Posted 2 June 2017 Author Posted 2 June 2017 5 hours ago, UPinCarolina said: No. He's trash. Silva on the other hand... I had a dream we signed him, so it must be. Wet dream?
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