weller54 Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 James, Lawrence, Barnes and Mendy all available for next season.... To join Drinkwater, Ndidi, Amartey and King!.. Have we already got the midfield options sorted without signing anyone else?
les-tah Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 100% about time we signed someone whos ready for the top level. Just 1 top class proven player. Amartey and Mendy are not good enough based on the current season. King is King but is not good enough for the top level week in week out, but its Andy King. Lawrence could be good or it could be a step too far for him. we dont know yet. Barnes is just a Kid who it seems has a lot of potential. Lets not put to much on him just yet. Out of All of them Matty James is the man to keep along with Obviously Drinky and Ndidi. James was always better than Drinkwater though shame about the injury.
Babylon Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 10 minutes ago, weller54 said: James, Lawrence, Barnes and Mendy all available for next season.... To join Drinkwater, Ndidi, Amartey and King!.. Have we already got the midfield options sorted without signing anyone else? Problem is, only two of them are proven really. King isn't good enough, Amartey is still young and learning and looked every inch a converted CB against the better teams. Mendy been injured all year, Lawrence couldn't cut the mustard before, Barnes did ok in league one and James is recovering from an injury and we won't know if he's recovered enough to play PL football for a while. For me personally, I'd ship King out as there are no question marks there, he just isn't good enough as a starting CM, the others you can give time to. It will never happen though because of how long he's been here. That would give you more room for another creative CM.
lgfualol Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 We need someone better than Drinkwater to keep that position competitive. James or even a fixed Mendy might be the answer but I'm not totally sure yet. Our current options are far too limited going forward, so a midfielder that could chip in with goals and assists would be ideal. I'd look at loaning out Mendy and Amartey, and having New CM, Ndidi, Drinkwater, James, King/Barnes as our options. But I don't think we'll see Barnes at CM, more CAM or on the wings like he did at MK Dons.
Babylon Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 8 minutes ago, les-tah said: Amartey and Mendy are not good enough based on the current season. Come on, that's a bit harsh especially on Mendy. The lad has played about 50 minutes of football all season, after that he was forever carrying an injury. I still stick to thinking he doesn't fit our system, but until he's had a chance I can't right him off. Amartey has been exposed badly against the best teams, but against anyone from about 8th down he's actually been ok. I think he's far better on the ball than people give him credit for. I still think there is a player in there somewhere with the right coaching and him applying himself right.
Finnegan Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 I'd personally be looking to allow a reasonable amount of our budget to sign a midfielder who's actually good on the ball. Obviously someone that fits our philosophy of hard working but still someone that is comfortable trapping a pass and pulling the strings in the middle. It's painfully obvious that when Drinkwater isn't playing, the team don't trust the midfield with the ball. It was cringe worthy when we played Ndidi and Amartey there and we just completely bypassed them when we were in possession.
Adster Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 16 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I'd personally be looking to allow a reasonable amount of our budget to sign a midfielder who's actually good on the ball. Obviously someone that fits our philosophy of hard working but still someone that is comfortable trapping a pass and pulling the strings in the middle. It's painfully obvious that when Drinkwater isn't playing, the team don't trust the midfield with the ball. It was cringe worthy when we played Ndidi and Amartey there and we just completely bypassed them when we were in possession. Absolutely. As I mentioned in a different thread it's not our style so much that needs to change. We do however need some more top players who are comfortable in possession. A midfielder who can do this should be of key priority in the summer.
les-tah Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 29 minutes ago, Babylon said: Come on, that's a bit harsh especially on Mendy. The lad has played about 50 minutes of football all season, after that he was forever carrying an injury. I still stick to thinking he doesn't fit our system, but until he's had a chance I can't right him off. Amartey has been exposed badly against the best teams, but against anyone from about 8th down he's actually been ok. I think he's far better on the ball than people give him credit for. I still think there is a player in there somewhere with the right coaching and him applying himself right. yeeah i agree harsh, but i did use the word 'based' he could still come good maybe but i just based it on this season,
Strokes Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 30 minutes ago, Babylon said: Come on, that's a bit harsh especially on Mendy. The lad has played about 50 minutes of football all season, after that he was forever carrying an injury. I still stick to thinking he doesn't fit our system, but until he's had a chance I can't right him off. Amartey has been exposed badly against the best teams, but against anyone from about 8th down he's actually been ok. I think he's far better on the ball than people give him credit for. I still think there is a player in there somewhere with the right coaching and him applying himself right. I agree on both counts of Mendy, I won't write him off but I'm not sure he is dynamic enough for a 2 man midfield. Amartey needs more time, if he is ever going to make the grade (which I do have doubts), a half seasons loan in the championship could do him the world of good.
Vindaloo FOX Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 100% YES ask yourself who can we really trust to do a job in CM other than Drinky and Ndidi ? King yes maybe on his day. James maybe but we have not seen him play for the first team for along time and yes he looked good for Barnsley but that's the Championship and we are not there anymore, also i worry with his injury record. Mendy the verdict is still out on him as this season he's been playing with a dodgy ankle, let's hope we see the best of him next season but also his dodgy ankle worries me. Amartey well the lad just does not look like a Prem player, i hope he proves me wrong. i really worry for us if we lose Drinky or Ndidi with a serious injury next season, i hope we improve in CM .
foxfanazer Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 58 minutes ago, les-tah said: 100% about time we signed someone whos ready for the top level. Just 1 top class proven player. Amartey and Mendy are not good enough based on the current season. King is King but is not good enough for the top level week in week out, but its Andy King. Lawrence could be good or it could be a step too far for him. we dont know yet. Barnes is just a Kid who it seems has a lot of potential. Lets not put to much on him just yet. Out of All of them Matty James is the man to keep along with Obviously Drinky and Ndidi. James was always better than Drinkwater though shame about the injury. Yeah this! We've got the money to sign proven quality. The gamble of picking out a gem works every now and then but reccently we've signed a bunch of duds, barring Ndidi
yorkie1999 Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 Our style of play is dictated by our lack of real class in midfield. Drinkwater is the only one who, on his day, can put a decent ball through or switch the ball quickly to the wings. We spent 70% of last season trying to avoid the ball going into the midfield area by playing it over the top. This obviously doesn't work anymore because opposition defenders are just sitting off by an extra 5 yards and virtually eliminating the threat of Vardy and pushing a left back upfield which means Mahrez is too deep when he picks the ball up, giving him too much of a job to run at the opposition. We need two quality CM's who are comfortable on the ball, can play with the ball at their feet and drive forward, instead of looking to get rid as quick as possible because they have little confidence in their own footballing abilities. This puts pressure on the opposition defence to concentrate on the midfield threat, therefore allowing Vardy and Mahrez into the game. We're just a couple of players short of being a quality side again.
Adster Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 1 minute ago, yorkie1999 said: Our style of play is dictated by our lack of real class in midfield. Drinkwater is the only one who, on his day, can put a decent ball through or switch the ball quickly to the wings. We spent 70% of last season trying to avoid the ball going into the midfield area by playing it over the top. This obviously doesn't work anymore because opposition defenders are just sitting off by an extra 5 yards and virtually eliminating the threat of Vardy and pushing a left back upfield which means Mahrez is too deep when he picks the ball up, giving him too much of a job to run at the opposition. We need two quality CM's who are comfortable on the ball, can play with the ball at their feet and drive forward, instead of looking to get rid as quick as possible because they have little confidence in their own footballing abilities. This puts pressure on the opposition defence to concentrate on the midfield threat, therefore allowing Vardy and Mahrez into the game. We're just a couple of players short of being a quality side again. Definitely. We are definitely short in the midfield department for quality. I know we're not Tottenham, but the balls they were splitting our defence with the other week were quality. I'd love for us to have someone like that who can produce constant moments of magic.
dannythefox Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 I don't think Mendy will get kick but I think we're ok in midfield we need a playmaker, two central defenders and right back and one new striker. Thats as it stands now, depends on people leaving etc.
foxy boxing Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 We should be on the look out for an experienced midfielder if available, apart from Drinkwater the rest of the midfield seem pretty young and maybe a little inexperienced. we have a lot of young midfielders - Ndidi, Amartey and Mendy and if drinkwater is out then they need a player that can lift the young ones and guide them when their on the pitch! we need a midfielder that is a leader and can grab the game by the scruff of the neck!. King has been here a long time but you wouldn't really call him a leader on the pitch and that is what we need a Cambiasso type player in the midfield!
Guest Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 Personally i think amartey, king and mendy aren't required. Bring in one top player with experience and one younger player to learn. I think that lawrence, barnes and the little cabbage should be given a chance in the 10 role. Get gray playing. Let's bring through some youth and bring forward the future.
yorkie1999 Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 8 minutes ago, foxy boxing said: We should be on the look out for an experienced midfielder if available, apart from Drinkwater the rest of the midfield seem pretty young and maybe a little inexperienced. we have a lot of young midfielders - Ndidi, Amartey and Mendy and if drinkwater is out then they need a player that can lift the young ones and guide them when their on the pitch! we need a midfielder that is a leader and can grab the game by the scruff of the neck!. King has been here a long time but you wouldn't really call him a leader on the pitch and that is what we need a Cambiasso type player in the midfield! Ndidi is good at what he does, defensive midfielder, Amartey is not a midfielder in a million years, he's a defender and should be trying to push Morgan or Huth for their position over time. We need someone who's better than Drinkwater and can play along side him., and then another on the bench in case one of them get injured (James). Only time will tell with Mendy, but it's going to take another season for him to get back up to speed.
Mease Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 Fvck yes. Some real proven quality is necessary, may help those young players coming through. We have to be ruthless I'm afraid a couple of players need to go and be replaced with proven qualities at the top level. Ideally get in a 10 and a CM. We can't gamble that the guys on loan and last years signings are going to come good. Some of these should be in the squad but we need proven quality. Big job for whomever gets it.
Finnegan Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 40 minutes ago, foxes21 said: What about Choudhury? Could be an upgrade on Amartey. This place, man.
Guest Col city fan Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 14 minutes ago, Mease said: Fvck yes. Some real proven quality is necessary, may help those young players coming through. We have to be ruthless I'm afraid a couple of players need to go and be replaced with proven qualities at the top level. Ideally get in a 10 and a CM. We can't gamble that the guys on loan and last years signings are going to come good. Some of these should be in the squad but we need proven quality. Big job for whomever gets it. Have to agree with this. After Drinkwater (solid, dependable but not massively creative) and Ndidi (who is only going to get better I think), we have an abundance of mediocrity. I still maintain (despite the usual protestations) that Amartey is never a central midfielder. James and Mendy COULD be fine, but need to prove their fitness in the Premiership and King is, well King. Lawrence looks like he's come on a bundle but playing really well in the Championship is no indicator of making the step up. I feel we need a class creator of chances. A modern day Garry Parker or Steve Thompson. A cool, not afraid to keep the ball, quality playmaker. Gylfi would be my choice. He can pass, shoot, take free kicks, put it on a plate for others and all that type of stuff. I have no idea if we could tempt him away from Swansea. But money talks and we have it.
Babylon Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 1 minute ago, Col city fan said: A modern day Garry Parker or Steve Thompson. Two of my favourite players! Quality.
AyewJoking Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 assuming shakespeare gets the job and assuming he stays with the 442.......... would he prioritise a new midfielder when drinkwater and ndidi seem nailed on starters? drinky was playing despite injury and only relieved when safety was secured. ndidi has made a big impact and is almost certainly a starter. personally i wouldnt expect major signings in any position apart from GK if Schmeichel leaves. whether or not this is a good thing, im not sure. i cant see shakey shaking things up too much.
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