sylofox Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 10 minutes ago, Collymore said: It was a part of wider discussion, you have just plucked loads of stuff out of thin air there. No I purposefully put together a silly reply to highlight how ridiculous your comment was. No club has or ever will become a top 4 side because of who the third choice keeper is. Hamer being here will have no bearing on us becoming a top four side. RRZ was a world cup winner but I would not want him in goal.
Collymore Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 18 minutes ago, sylofox said: No I purposefully put together a silly reply to highlight how ridiculous your comment was. No club has or ever will become a top 4 side because of who the third choice keeper is. Hamer being here will have no bearing on us becoming a top four side. RRZ was a world cup winner but I would not want him in goal. I agree. Sorry you wasted so much time arguing a point to no body who believed against it...
Collymore Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 As for Silva, I was really up for him coming first time around but not too sure now. I know its early days but I have to say Ibora looked very disappointing and I think we might be better off going for players who have proven prem experience.
sphericalfox Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 5 minutes ago, Collymore said: As for Silva, I was really up for him coming first time around but not too sure now. I know its early days but I have to say Ibora looked very disappointing and I think we might be better off going for players who have proven prem experience. That's the FT way and a significant understatement. The bloke hasn't played a full game yet, and is getting used to playing with his colleagues. His English isn't bad, but not fluent. Give him a break, and at least save your disappointment for some competitive games where maybe you can actually justify it.
Collymore Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 8 minutes ago, sphericalfox said: That's the FT way and a significant understatement. The bloke hasn't played a full game yet, and is getting used to playing with his colleagues. His English isn't bad, but not fluent. Give him a break, and at least save your disappointment for some competitive games where maybe you can actually justify it. If you had added "slow" and "one dimensional" to that then I'd have agreed with you. His grasp of English and him knowing how his colleagues play table tennis was the least of my worries.
sphericalfox Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 Just now, Collymore said: If you had added "slow" and "one dimensional" to that then I'd have agreed with you. His grasp of English and him knowing how his colleagues play table tennis was the least of my worries. Some people never learn.
Collymore Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 9 minutes ago, sphericalfox said: Some people never learn to share the same opinion as me. Some of your post went missing.
weller54 Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 29 minutes ago, Collymore said: As for Silva, I was really up for him coming first time around but not too sure now. I know its early days but I have to say Ibora looked very disappointing and I think we might be better off going for players who have proven prem experience. Iborra looks no better than Inler was?... We are desperate for a creative midfielder and the options are running out.
Adster Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 45 minutes ago, Collymore said: As for Silva, I was really up for him coming first time around but not too sure now. I know its early days but I have to say Ibora looked very disappointing and I think we might be better off going for players who have proven prem experience. Standard FoxesTalk over reaction. The bloke hasn't even played a full 90 for us but yeah let's write him off already. He'll definitely be no good for us after not looking world class after his first two games with a completely new squad. The mind boggles with some people, it really does.
City1884 Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 5 hours ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said: And you know this how? I'm not going to claim to be "ITK", especially when it comes to incoming transfers, but I do have contacts that have an insight into the current squad and what's being planned in training / positions etc. There are no plans for further CM reinforcements above the 5 that I mentioned. The area's of concern currently are right mid/wing assuming Mahrez gets a move, (which it's expected he will at some point this summer), and another CB is a possibility at the right price, but don't expect a huge fee signing such as Gibson for £20m+. Until Mahrez does go, our "big money" signings are expected to be over after Iheanacho. If Mahrez goes, we're expecting to invest a decent amount in a replacement right winger.
Bunyip Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 10 hours ago, Collymore said: ...but there's no one who can do what he does, not even close. Gray is one of my favourite players but he doesnt come close to Mahrez. He's the only player we have ever had that is capable of being a game winner against any team in the world. That costs money to have that in your team. If he's so hot how come none of the really big clubs have come in for him ? He maybe a big fish here but the reality is no other top sides think so.
sphericalfox Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 1 hour ago, Collymore said: Some of your post went missing. No, no it didn't. When I make a criticism I justify it. You've made a conclusion based on very little observation. I have suggested that you save a conclusion once you've seen further evidence to justify this opinion. I have no issue with you having a different opinion than me or others. I haven't come to an opinion, as I've yet to see enough of him, and am willing to allow him time to overcome prospective obstacles to moving from a different country into a new team, gaining better English understanding, and allowance to learn more about his team mates movements, habits, and reading of the game.
Collymore Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 32 minutes ago, sphericalfox said: No, no it didn't. When I make a criticism I justify it. You've made a conclusion based on very little observation. I have suggested that you save a conclusion once you've seen further evidence to justify this opinion. I have no issue with you having a different opinion than me or others. I haven't come to an opinion, as I've yet to see enough of him, and am willing to allow him time to overcome prospective obstacles to moving from a different country into a new team, gaining better English understanding, and allowance to learn more about his team mates movements, habits, and reading of the game. But I believe I can make a judgment on very little observation. You don't, that's fine. "Some people will never learn" suggests that you think people should all think like you.
TheMightySystem Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 2 hours ago, City1884 said: I'm not going to claim to be "ITK", especially when it comes to incoming transfers, but I do have contacts that have an insight into the current squad and what's being planned in training / positions etc. There are no plans for further CM reinforcements above the 5 that I mentioned. The area's of concern currently are right mid/wing assuming Mahrez gets a move, (which it's expected he will at some point this summer), and another CB is a possibility at the right price, but don't expect a huge fee signing such as Gibson for £20m+. Until Mahrez does go, our "big money" signings are expected to be over after Iheanacho. If Mahrez goes, we're expecting to invest a decent amount in a replacement right winger. Any idea on how Barnes and hopefully Lawrence will be used this season?
brucey Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 2 hours ago, City1884 said: I'm not going to claim to be "ITK", especially when it comes to incoming transfers, but I do have contacts that have an insight into the current squad and what's being planned in training / positions etc. There are no plans for further CM reinforcements above the 5 that I mentioned. The area's of concern currently are right mid/wing assuming Mahrez gets a move, (which it's expected he will at some point this summer), and another CB is a possibility at the right price, but don't expect a huge fee signing such as Gibson for £20m+. Until Mahrez does go, our "big money" signings are expected to be over after Iheanacho. If Mahrez goes, we're expecting to invest a decent amount in a replacement right winger. Surely if Mahrez goes we'll move Albrighton to the right and look for a replacement left winger?
Clever Fox Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 4 minutes ago, brucey said: Surely if Mahrez goes we'll move Albrighton to the right and look for a replacement left winger? Haven't we got Gray already.
brucey Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 12 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: Haven't we got Gray already. I was basing it on the statement that we will replace Mahrez with an expensive (presumably starting) winger if he leaves. If we don't buy a replacement, and we go with Gray LW + Albrighton RW, that will be a significant downgrade. As an aside I think Chilwell shoehorned into LW would be more effective than Gray at LW.
sphericalfox Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 58 minutes ago, Collymore said: But I believe I can make a judgment on very little observation. You don't, that's fine. "Some people will never learn" suggests that you think people should all think like you. No. Some people never learn from making rash judgements based on **** all. And later on they have the pancake on their face. There have been plenty of examples. You are more than welcome to do what you want, and I and others will be sure to remind you of it.
Wymsey Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 3 minutes ago, sphericalfox said: No. Some people never learn from making rash judgements based on **** all. And later on they have the pancake on their face. There have been plenty of examples. You are more than welcome to do what you want, and I and others will be sure to remind you of it. Agree Collymore is judging way too quickly, players adapt in different ways and time before they start to become a stronghold in the team. By the way, didn't you have this image as a profile picture around a few years back and iirc others used it in other threads for a good while after?
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 1 minute ago, Wymeswold fox said: Agree Collymore is judging way too quickly, players adapt in different ways and time before they start to become a stronghold in the team. By the way, didn't you have this image as a profile picture around a few years back and iirc others used it in other threads for a good while after? Wasn't that Why 'Captain Shrapnel' became 'Captain pancake face'?
sphericalfox Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 1 minute ago, Wymeswold fox said: Agree Collymore is judging way too quickly, players adapt in different ways and time before they start to become a stronghold in the team. By the way, didn't you have this image as a profile picture around a few years back and others used it in other threads for a good while after? I did, but so did others (and before me). There was a sort of running joke about it.
Clever Fox Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 3 minutes ago, brucey said: I was basing it on the statement that we will replace Mahrez with a winger if he leaves. If we don't buy a replacement, and we go with Gray LW + Albrighton RW, that will be a significant downgrade. As an aside I think Chilwell shoehorned into LW would be more effective than Gray at LW. I just thought this late at night you might have forgot about gray. I totally agree with Chilwell playing in the LW role and Albrighton on the right, That way we get proper support for the full backs. While adding their considerable attacking ability. I'd even go so far as to suggest on current evidence of Mahrez it would make us stronger.
City1884 Posted 23 July 2017 Posted 23 July 2017 2 hours ago, TheMightySystem said: Any idea on how Barnes and hopefully Lawrence will be used this season? It's currently sounding as if Lawrence will be staying with the first team squad. The idea is meant to be 4 wingers, Gray, Lawrence, Albrighton & Mahrez/replacement. Barnes looks more likely to go out on loan again this season now that his long term future is secured contract wise.
st albans fox Posted 24 July 2017 Posted 24 July 2017 1 hour ago, City1884 said: It's currently sounding as if Lawrence will be staying with the first team squad. The idea is meant to be 4 wingers, Gray, Lawrence, Albrighton & Mahrez/replacement. Barnes looks more likely to go out on loan again this season now that his long term future is secured contract wise. I hope we use our brains and include an early January recall option - would be nuts not to.
Foxes1 Posted 24 July 2017 Posted 24 July 2017 7 hours ago, st albans fox said: I hope we use our brains and include an early January recall option - would be nuts not to. Rudders will have it all sorted. Don't worry.
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