Politics Thread (encompassing Brexit) - 21 June 2017 onwards

[Buce]

NHS unprepared for no-deal Brexit, leaked letter warns

Letter highlights risk of drug shortages and spread of disease

 

Hospitals face running out of drugs in a chaotic no-deal Brexit, the group that represents NHS hospital and ambulance service has privately warned.

Poor co-ordination by ministers and health service bosses means there has been a failure to prepare for the UK to be left without a Brexit deal, a leaked letter from NHS Providers said.

“Public health and disease control co-ordination could suffer,” said NHS Providers chief executive Chris Hopson, setting out how a hard Brexit or no deal could negatively effect “the entire supply chain of pharmaceuticals” and “jeopardise” the EU citizens making up the “workforce on which the NHS relies”.

Hopson’s letter, sent to NHS England chief executive Simon Stevens and NHS Improvement chief Ian Dalton on Friday, was leaked to the Times.

Hopson said the possibility of a no-deal or hard Brexit “with minimal regulatory alignment appears to be growing … For as long as that risk remains it is important that detailed operation planning is undertaken across the NHS.

“Yet trusts tell us that their work in this area is being hampered by the lack of visible and appropriate communication.

“Our members have begun planning … but they have hit a problem, in that some activities are clearly best done at a national level and, in the view of trusts, are best co-ordinated by NHS England and NHS Improvement.

“However there has been no formal communication to trusts from either of your organisations on this issue.”

Hopson warned it would be more “efficient and effective” for ministers and the NHS bodies to work out a national contingency plan for trusts, rather than “expecting trusts to develop contingency plans individually, in a vacuum, and have to reinvent the wheel 229 times”.

Poor national co-ordination, he added, could mean “both stockpiles and shortages of medicines and medical devices”.

A spokesman for NHS Providers confirmed the letter was genuine but added: “We have not leaked this letter. These conversations about Brexit are obviously something that happened between ourselves and the other organisations.

“This correspondence was private but it has been leaked and we are not saying anything further about it.”

Last month Stevens said “extensive” planning was taking place to prepare for a no-deal scenario. “There is immediate planning which the health department, with other parts of government, are undertaking around securing medicine supply and equipment under different scenarios,” he said.

“That will obviously crystallise when it’s clear later this autumn what the UK’s position will be.”

The Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, will head to Brussels on Tuesday and Wednesday for the latest round of negotiations with EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier, which a Downing Street spokesman said would be “resolving the few remaining withdrawal issues”. On Thursday the Government will publish the first of a series of technical notices designed to help people and businesses prepare for a no-deal scenario.

Raab will also give a speech outlining how the government plans to mitigate the potential risks of leaving the EU without a deal and ensure continuity and stability. The issue of EU nationals’ residency will not be among more than 80 “no-deal” technical notices to be issued over the coming weeks. Ending freedom of movement after Brexit risks 100,000 fewer adult social care workers by 2026, the thinktank Global Future has warned. Currently 17% of social care staff in England – about 220,000 – are from overseas.

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1 hour ago, Buce said:

NHS unprepared for no-deal Brexit, leaked letter warns

Letter highlights risk of drug shortages and spread of disease

 

Hospitals face running out of drugs in a chaotic no-deal Brexit, the group that represents NHS hospital and ambulance service has privately warned.

Poor co-ordination by ministers and health service bosses means there has been a failure to prepare for the UK to be left without a Brexit deal, a leaked letter from NHS Providers said.

“Public health and disease control co-ordination could suffer,” said NHS Providers chief executive Chris Hopson, setting out how a hard Brexit or no deal could negatively effect “the entire supply chain of pharmaceuticals” and “jeopardise” the EU citizens making up the “workforce on which the NHS relies”.

Hopson’s letter, sent to NHS England chief executive Simon Stevens and NHS Improvement chief Ian Dalton on Friday, was leaked to the Times.

Hopson said the possibility of a no-deal or hard Brexit “with minimal regulatory alignment appears to be growing … For as long as that risk remains it is important that detailed operation planning is undertaken across the NHS.

“Yet trusts tell us that their work in this area is being hampered by the lack of visible and appropriate communication.

“Our members have begun planning … but they have hit a problem, in that some activities are clearly best done at a national level and, in the view of trusts, are best co-ordinated by NHS England and NHS Improvement.

“However there has been no formal communication to trusts from either of your organisations on this issue.”

Hopson warned it would be more “efficient and effective” for ministers and the NHS bodies to work out a national contingency plan for trusts, rather than “expecting trusts to develop contingency plans individually, in a vacuum, and have to reinvent the wheel 229 times”.

Poor national co-ordination, he added, could mean “both stockpiles and shortages of medicines and medical devices”.

A spokesman for NHS Providers confirmed the letter was genuine but added: “We have not leaked this letter. These conversations about Brexit are obviously something that happened between ourselves and the other organisations.

“This correspondence was private but it has been leaked and we are not saying anything further about it.”

Last month Stevens said “extensive” planning was taking place to prepare for a no-deal scenario. “There is immediate planning which the health department, with other parts of government, are undertaking around securing medicine supply and equipment under different scenarios,” he said.

“That will obviously crystallise when it’s clear later this autumn what the UK’s position will be.”

The Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, will head to Brussels on Tuesday and Wednesday for the latest round of negotiations with EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier, which a Downing Street spokesman said would be “resolving the few remaining withdrawal issues”. On Thursday the Government will publish the first of a series of technical notices designed to help people and businesses prepare for a no-deal scenario.

Raab will also give a speech outlining how the government plans to mitigate the potential risks of leaving the EU without a deal and ensure continuity and stability. The issue of EU nationals’ residency will not be among more than 80 “no-deal” technical notices to be issued over the coming weeks. Ending freedom of movement after Brexit risks 100,000 fewer adult social care workers by 2026, the thinktank Global Future has warned. Currently 17% of social care staff in England – about 220,000 – are from overseas. 

I think this is mostly caused by the vagueness of the Government’s position, rather than Brexit itself.

[Strokes]

2 hours ago, Buce said:

NHS unprepared for no-deal Brexit, leaked letter warns

Letter highlights risk of drug shortages and spread of disease

 

Hospitals face running out of drugs in a chaotic no-deal Brexit, the group that represents NHS hospital and ambulance service has privately warned.

Poor co-ordination by ministers and health service bosses means there has been a failure to prepare for the UK to be left without a Brexit deal, a leaked letter from NHS Providers said.

“Public health and disease control co-ordination could suffer,” said NHS Providers chief executive Chris Hopson, setting out how a hard Brexit or no deal could negatively effect “the entire supply chain of pharmaceuticals” and “jeopardise” the EU citizens making up the “workforce on which the NHS relies”.

Hopson’s letter, sent to NHS England chief executive Simon Stevens and NHS Improvement chief Ian Dalton on Friday, was leaked to the Times.

Hopson said the possibility of a no-deal or hard Brexit “with minimal regulatory alignment appears to be growing … For as long as that risk remains it is important that detailed operation planning is undertaken across the NHS.

“Yet trusts tell us that their work in this area is being hampered by the lack of visible and appropriate communication.

“Our members have begun planning … but they have hit a problem, in that some activities are clearly best done at a national level and, in the view of trusts, are best co-ordinated by NHS England and NHS Improvement.

“However there has been no formal communication to trusts from either of your organisations on this issue.”

Hopson warned it would be more “efficient and effective” for ministers and the NHS bodies to work out a national contingency plan for trusts, rather than “expecting trusts to develop contingency plans individually, in a vacuum, and have to reinvent the wheel 229 times”.

Poor national co-ordination, he added, could mean “both stockpiles and shortages of medicines and medical devices”.

A spokesman for NHS Providers confirmed the letter was genuine but added: “We have not leaked this letter. These conversations about Brexit are obviously something that happened between ourselves and the other organisations.

“This correspondence was private but it has been leaked and we are not saying anything further about it.”

Last month Stevens said “extensive” planning was taking place to prepare for a no-deal scenario. “There is immediate planning which the health department, with other parts of government, are undertaking around securing medicine supply and equipment under different scenarios,” he said.

“That will obviously crystallise when it’s clear later this autumn what the UK’s position will be.”

The Brexit secretary, Dominic Raab, will head to Brussels on Tuesday and Wednesday for the latest round of negotiations with EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier, which a Downing Street spokesman said would be “resolving the few remaining withdrawal issues”. On Thursday the Government will publish the first of a series of technical notices designed to help people and businesses prepare for a no-deal scenario.

Raab will also give a speech outlining how the government plans to mitigate the potential risks of leaving the EU without a deal and ensure continuity and stability. The issue of EU nationals’ residency will not be among more than 80 “no-deal” technical notices to be issued over the coming weeks. Ending freedom of movement after Brexit risks 100,000 fewer adult social care workers by 2026, the thinktank Global Future has warned. Currently 17% of social care staff in England – about 220,000 – are from overseas.

I swear we were all panicking because we were preparing for a no deal last month. Ah we are stockpiling, now it’s ‘ah we are not stockpiling enough’. 

On a positive note for some you remainers, at least this will kill off a load of the oap brexiteers you wanted dead not so long ago.

 

[Guest MattP]

I just can't believe the letter got leaked, I mean who would do such a thing?

[Strokes]

1 hour ago, MattP said:

I just can't believe the letter got leaked, I mean who would do such a thing?

It’s an absolute mystery mate, I have a sneaky suspicion not everyone is behind the idea.

[lifted*fox]

3 hours ago, Strokes said:

On a positive note for some you remainers, at least this will kill off a load of the oap brexiteers you wanted dead not so long ago.

silver lining and all that jazz.

[Dr The Singh]

3 hours ago, MattP said:

I just can't believe the letter got leaked, I mean who would do such a thing?

It was me

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17 hours ago, MattP said:

I just can't believe the letter got leaked, I mean who would do such a thing?

My guess is that it was the Liberal Establishment. I wouldn't be surprised if they are attempting to sabotage the will of the British people.

Should we crush them?

Actually I'm not sure this article has too much to do with Brexit itself. It's about the unpreparedness of the NHS because, like the rest of us, they don't know what will happen to the pharmaceutical supply chain from the EU when we leave.

[Guest MattP]

Corbyn's cockwasher Chris Williamson sinks even deeper into his sewer.

The state of our politics at the minute. 

https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/labour-mp-chris-williamson-vanessa-beeley_uk_5b7adee4e4b018b93e963784

A Labour MP has said it was a “privilege” to meet and listen to a talk by a controversial pro-Assad blogger, who has previously described murdered MP Jo Cox as a “warmongering Al Qaeda advocate”.

Vanessa Beeley made the comment in a tweet almost a year after Cox’s death, and has also written that “Zionists rule France”.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

21 hours ago, Strokes said:

I swear we were all panicking because we were preparing for a no deal last month. Ah we are stockpiling, now it’s ‘ah we are not stockpiling enough’. 

On a positive note for some you remainers, at least this will kill off a load of the oap brexiteers you wanted dead not so long ago.

Not this bunny. I positively refuse to die.

 

[Guest MattP]

 

[Strokes]

1 hour ago, MattP said:

 

Whatabout islamaphobia in the Conservative party though? Right wing media hatchet job. Nothing to see here.

Donald trump supporter.

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1 hour ago, MattP said:

 

Jesus wept. It makes the debates on here look erudite in comparison.

That's just seven minutes of whining bullshit from people who just haven't got a clue what they're talking about.

Not entirely sure what your point is in posting it?

[Guest MattP]

32 minutes ago, Strokes said:

Whatabout islamaphobia in the Conservative party though? Right wing media hatchet job. Nothing to see here.

Donald trump supporter.

It's legitimate criticism of Israel.

[lifted*fox]

all that video shows it that there are ****ing idiots on all sides and they all think they're an authority on something they haven't got a ****ing clue about. 

social media and everyone thinking they're a powerful, knowledgeable voice has ruined our society.

who's got time for this bullshit man, wtf. we get one rodeo and everyone is wasting their time hating each other and for what?

waste.

[Guest Markyblue]

The greatest tragedy of brexit is when finally the working class have came out in force and took part in the democratic process, they have shamefully been betrayed by the left jumping into bed with the establishment, big business, and indeed multi billionaires .

[lifted*fox]

tragic indeed.

[Guest Markyblue]

19 minutes ago, lifted*fox said:

tragic indeed.

No doubt that there's going to be a shortage of them because of brexit. ?

[lifted*fox]

1 minute ago, Markyblue said:

No doubt that there's going to be a shortage of them because of brexit. ?

Black men? 

[bovril]

2 minutes ago, lifted*fox said:

Black men? 

Basketball players. 

[Guest Markyblue]

Strange cardigans hopefully. 

[ajthefox]

No-one told me Gifs would become scarce, now I'm really fvcking unhappy.

[urban.spaceman]

12 minutes ago, ajthefox said:

No-one told me Gifs would become scarce, now I'm really fvcking unhappy.

[Guest MattP]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6088353/Jeremy-Corbyn-declares-class-war-BBC.html

I actually agree with Jeremy here, it is absurd how middle class some media organisations are.

I don't think wanting working class representation is class war in any way, it would certainly go some way to the absurd bias the organisation has towards what are often overtly middle class causes.

[lifted*fox]

absolutely.

**** the bbc. unbiased my arse.

sick of paying a license fee to be fed propaganda. also there's **** all decent on the bbc.

it's about time something shook up that organisation.