Strokes Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 Been with us from our lowest ever point right through to our highest, no contest. Andy King!
ScouseFox Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 8 minutes ago, MPH said: Of course not- I'm showing the lunacy of thinking king is a legend purely because he's been here a long time very disrespectful to claim king has just "been here a long time". as said previously he's played a massive part in everything we've done from hereford and cheltenham to the community shield and atletico. he's not just been a third choice keeper in the lower leagues. he's played 20+ games and scored in every season since we were in league one.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 The amount of disrespect some of our fans give Andy King is beyond baffling. not sure whether it's because of a few hopping on the bandwagon or what, but the man is a legend no doubt about it. Vardy's a bigger legend in football in general, but Andy King is easily a bigger Leicester City legend.
MPH Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 26 minutes ago, ScouseFox said: very disrespectful to claim king has just "been here a long time". as said previously he's played a massive part in everything we've done from hereford and cheltenham to the community shield and atletico. he's not just been a third choice keeper in the lower leagues. he's played 20+ games and scored in every season since we were in league one. I would not say he's played a prominent role in our prem games at all all I said is I don't consider him a club legend. Didn't say I don't like him or don't appreciate his loyalty. No need to get your knickers in a twist..
HoustonFox Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 If this thread isn't getting shut down, can the Mods at least add the apostrophe into the title? Thanks!
chris_lcfc_85 Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said: The amount of disrespect some of our fans give Andy King is beyond baffling. not sure whether it's because of a few hopping on the bandwagon or what, but the man is a legend no doubt about it. Vardy's a bigger legend in football in general, but Andy King is easily a bigger Leicester City legend. Totally agree, embarrassing really. I agree with others he's not good enough to play now for me but by no means should we forget his time with LCFC, plus he's played in some massively important games and scored some important goals, his type of player are few and far between nowadays
dannythefox Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 Can't really compare the two imo. Both very different on what they've given the club.
volpeazzurro Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 Just because you turn up for work over a reasonable period of time and try your best and being a great example to others, whilst admirable, doesn't make you a legend. Vardy, his story, his goal record in the Premiership and beating Van Nistleroy in the circumstances he was in makes him an easy choice for me.
Kitchandro Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said: The amount of disrespect some of our fans give Andy King is beyond baffling. not sure whether it's because of a few hopping on the bandwagon or what, but the man is a legend no doubt about it. Vardy's a bigger legend in football in general, but Andy King is easily a bigger Leicester City legend. Look, I respect and like King but let's be fair, the bloke hasn't really done much on the pitch since 2011, when he looked a real prospect. I get he has the longevity, and I would like him to remain a 1 club man, but his contribution in a football sense has been minimal for quite some time. No he's not Conrad Logan, but he isn't bloody Jamie Vardy either. King may have been part of the squad that won the title, but Vardy is the single biggest player in terms of influence this club has ever had. People who don't understand football do not appreciate the impact Vardy had on the team that won the league, our whole way of playing was pretty much built around him and without those tactics we probably would have finished mid table. King should be a popular figure for LCFC for as long as Leicester City is spoken about, and statistically he certainly has an argument for being a club legend. But people's main reason for loving him is because he's been here so long. I think it's unfair for that to count for more than a player who has been one of our great strikers and has in fact spent his entire professional league career with us, it's not like he's only played one season like Kante.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 7 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: Look, I respect and like King but let's be fair, the bloke hasn't really done much on the pitch since 2011, when he looked a real prospect. I get he has the longevity, and I would like him to remain a 1 club man, but his contribution in a football sense has been minimal for quite some time. No he's not Conrad Logan, but he isn't bloody Jamie Vardy either. King may have been part of the squad that won the title, but Vardy is the single biggest player in terms of influence this club has ever had. People who don't understand football do not appreciate the impact Vardy had on the team that won the league, our whole way of playing was pretty much built around him and without those tactics we probably would have finished mid table. King should be a popular figure for LCFC for as long as Leicester City is spoken about, and statistically he certainly has an argument for being a club legend. But people's main reason for loving him is because he's been here so long. I think it's unfair for that to count for more than a player who has been one of our great strikers and has in fact spent his entire professional league career with us, it's not like he's only played one season like Kante. I would agree with the first statement, I do think that's largely because of how he's been used in recent years. Considering he was almost like a Lampard for us in his early years, he's clearly been put into a more withdrawn role which definitely hasn't helped performances wise or at least him standing out in games. I think it's more to do with his attitude and his genuine affection for the club as well to that, people like King are such a rarity and he's been here since the start of this wee fairytale and still has an active role at the club, he's still not gone below 20 games a season which is impressive considering how long he's been there and how much we've progressed in that time. I understand what you're saying though and don't disagree too much.
yorkie1999 Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 3 hours ago, Strokes said: Been with us from our lowest ever point right through to our highest, no contest. Andy King! So's the tea lady, and no-ones ever come in for her either
Strokes Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 Just now, yorkie1999 said: So's the tea lady, and no-ones ever come in for her either Isn't there an unfunny jokes thread for people like you?
yorkie1999 Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 14 minutes ago, Strokes said: Isn't there an unfunny jokes thread for people like you? Yes, it's called the best of strokes.
Ian Nacho Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 I don't think they're comparable, Vardy has been a better player for us than King but King has been such a servant to the club.
Strokes Posted 1 August 2017 Posted 1 August 2017 15 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: Yes, it's called the best of strokes. Another one I don't get, keep them coming.
Max Wall Posted 3 August 2017 Posted 3 August 2017 On 01/08/2017 at 17:08, ARCHER said: 'who's the biggest bell end'. Dion Dublin according to the Man Utd players who shared the showers with him. Legend has it that horses refer to each other as being 'hung like Dion Dublin.'
Max Wall Posted 3 August 2017 Posted 3 August 2017 On 02/08/2017 at 00:15, yorkie1999 said: So's the tea lady, and no-ones ever come in for her either What's her number?
Finnaldo Posted 3 August 2017 Posted 3 August 2017 I knew what a load of shite this thread would be from the title alone. There's no ranking Club Legends because they can be legends for different reasons. If you're going ability it's Vardy. If you're going commitment to the cause and someone who epitomises post-bankruptcy City it's Kingy. It doesn't work on a sliding scale in the majority of cases. That being said it's not a surprise Kingy's getting slagged off again. So instead of pissing in the wind I'll list off his achievements and if you still want to question his status as legend then I don't care to argue: Player of 13 years with a fair contribution in each season since his breakthrough in 2007-08 In that time he's become our top scoring midfielder ever Medal Winner for League One, Championship and Premier League champions (one of the few if nto only players to do this in all of English football) Contributed goals that won us points in all three of those seasons as well as the goal which kick-started the Great Escape and in turn, allowed the miracle to happen. Semi-Finalist in the Euros whilst representing us (thanks Scouse) Blessed us with 'The Many Faces of Andy King' thread for which we all be eternally grateful. Stayed through all of it despite having several offers in hsi early career to clubs that were in a better position for better wages or in recent years where he could've been a starter and played regular football. My case is closed. If that doesn't make you a legend, then like Scouse said you'll be struggling to draft up a five a side team from all our players since 1884.
inckley fox Posted 3 August 2017 Posted 3 August 2017 2 hours ago, Finnaldo said: I knew what a load of shite this thread would be from the title alone. There's no ranking Club Legends because they can be legends for different reasons. If you're going ability it's Vardy. If you're going commitment to the cause and someone who epitomises post-bankruptcy City it's Kingy. It doesn't work on a sliding scale in the majority of cases. That being said it's not a surprise Kingy's getting slagged off again. So instead of pissing in the wind I'll list off his achievements and if you still want to question his status as legend then I don't care to argue: Player of 13 years with a fair contribution in each season since his breakthrough in 2007-08 In that time he's become our top scoring midfielder ever Medal Winner for League One, Championship and Premier League champions (one of the few if nto only players to do this in all of English football) Contributed goals that won us points in all three of those seasons as well as the goal which kick-started the Great Escape and in turn, allowed the miracle to happen. Semi-Finalist in the Euros whilst representing us (thanks Scouse) Blessed us with 'The Many Faces of Andy King' thread for which we all be eternally grateful. Stayed through all of it despite having several offers in hsi early career to clubs that were in a better position for better wages or in recent years where he could've been a starter and played regular football. My case is closed. If that doesn't make you a legend, then like Scouse said you'll be struggling to draft up a five a side team from all our players since 1884. It'd be ungrateful, spoilt perhaps, to argue that King isn't a legend. But a lot of these arguments are based on a very personal grasp of what a 'legend' is. 'Legend' means 'much talked-about', and usually in a positive sense. I think it's fair to say that this would apply to both players, but more to Vardy than to King, and in fact more to Kante than to King, regardless of the emotional bond we have with, or the gratitude we feel for King. For some, clearly, the word 'legend', or specifically 'club legend', takes on a meaning of its own. But if you want to go about measuring how much of a 'legend' someone is, I think it'd get tricky if you started thinking too long on longevity, or the number of appearances a player makes. How 'legendary' a player has been for your club surely has more to do with their impact and the reputation they create while they're with you. Most Leicester fans, especially younger ones, would consider Shilton / Banks greater legends than Wallington. They'd also probably go for McLintock ahead of players who clocked up far more games than him and showed greater loyalty, like Ian King. I'd tend to talk about McAllister or Parker more than Ramsey and Mauchlen, Speedie more than Phil Gee, Cambiasso more than Matty James. I don't see why we can't be both grateful for King and realistic about how important a player he has been for us. Our win percentage last season was with him as a starting midfielder, in the PL, was 13%, compared to 32% overall. The season before, when we won the title, it was 44%, compared to 61% overall. He scored two critical goals during the Great Escape, but only actually began four of the eight games and our win percentage was 25% with him in the side that season, which may well have seen us relegated had it been the same for the team as a whole. On the other hand, he was a much bigger player for us in the second tier, even if he wasn't always first choice (neither were Drinkwater, James and Vardy). He was a key man when we weren't doing so well in the second tier, circa 2010/11. And he was an important part of our third tier promotion. So, while those achievements weren't as huge as the ones in which Vardy played a starring role, I'd go along with affording him 'Leicester legend' status. Why not? So long as we remember that there are legend, and there are legends. King has been a constant in our success, he hasn't always been crucial, and has only rarely been important at the higher levels. Over time he's been a constant rather than a critical ingredient. Nick Mason to Roger Waters. Alex James to Graham Coxon. That sort of thing.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 18 August 2017 Posted 18 August 2017 It's not even a discussion point for me. One is a long serving player. One is a pretty long serving player who is one of the best players we have had and who was instrumental in us winning the league.
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