Adrien Silva - Terms Agreed

[bald reynard]

2 hours ago, mozartfox said:

I fear you are correct.  Silence is an admission we have screwed up.  

It really is VERY strange that we haven't appealed.  We must be extremely uncertain of our case.  On the face of it, I would say we'd have a good case - so there must be compelling reasons why we've done nothing for nearly 2 weeks.  All I can assume, is we're worried about having an even harsher judgement made against us  - though I can't imagine what could be worse than paying £80k a week and giving £25m or so to Portugal, for a player who sits in the stands for 4 months !

[Snik-Snok]

34 minutes ago, bald reynard said:

It really is VERY strange that we haven't appealed.  We must be extremely uncertain of our case.  On the face of it, I would say we'd have a good case - so there must be compelling reasons why we've done nothing for nearly 2 weeks.  All I can assume, is we're worried about having an even harsher judgement made against us  - though I can't imagine what could be worse than paying £80k a week and giving £25m or so to Portugal, for a player who sits in the stands for 4 months !

I've been doing some research about about FIFA's TMS system to try to work out what could have happened.

 

Looks like the system would a reported an issue straight away i.e. just after the deadline.  Technicians for the TMS system would have been available to contact, to discuss the issue.  If it can't be resolved during that conversation then the issue is forwarded to another department in FIFA, where the circumstances are investigated thoroughly and a decision is made.  

 

The fact that it took three working days before we had a response from FIFA suggests that it went through that process, and I suspect that if they could have found a convenient way to let the transfer through then they would have found it then.  Maybe there's not much room for an appeal because I fear the conclusion is clear, which is that our submission was late.

 

What they could be focusing on is arguing that if the relevant authorities (The FA, FIFA) can allow a transfer to be completed (before the deadline), then surely the international clearance should be allowed to follow regardless (when the alternative is that the player will be left in limbo).

[mozartfox]

2 minutes ago, Snik-Snok said:

I've been doing some research about about FIFA's TMS system to try to work out what could have happened.

 

Looks like the system would a reported an issue straight away i.e. just after the deadline.  Technicians for the TMS system would have been available to contact, to discuss the issue.  If it can't be resolved during that conversation then the issue is forwarded to another department in FIFA, where the circumstances are investigated thoroughly and a decision is made.  

 

The fact that it took three working days before we had a response from FIFA suggests that it went through that process, and I suspect that if they could have found a convenient way to let the transfer through then they would have found it then.  Maybe there's not much room for an appeal because I fear the conclusion is clear, which is that our submission was late.

 

What they could be focusing on is arguing that if the relevant authorities (The FA, FIFA) can allow a transfer to be completed (before the deadline), then surely the international clearance should be allowed to follow regardless (when the alternative is that the player will be left in limbo).

This is a very good point.  If the transfer was agreed BEFORE the deadline and this can be proven with timed and printed documentation proving terms were agreed before the 2 hour extension had expired, then surely the paper work is secondary and common sense will prevail?   FIFA should be looking at finding ways to nod this through.  The player is for sure 100% innocent, so whack us with a fine and give them Rudkin's Visa card details

[sylofox]

I've been told the club has two or three options to take but only have one chance. The club know if we get this wrong it's tough untill January.

 

Also been told all meetings on this matter are strictly need to know. They don't want leaks that could screw up our appeal.

[Nick]

11 minutes ago, sylofox said:

I've been told the club has two or three options to take but only have one chance. The club know if we get this wrong it's tough untill January.

 

Also been told all meetings on this matter are strictly need to know. They don't want leaks that could screw up our appeal.

So to recap you are saying that you know that we have some options and we could pick one and that only people who work high up in the club know what the options are and which one they might pick?

[Guest Papasmurf]

23 minutes ago, sylofox said:

I've been told the club has two or three options to take but only have one chance. The club know if we get this wrong it's tough untill January.

 

Also been told all meetings on this matter are strictly need to know. They don't want leaks that could screw up our appeal.

Sounds totally plausible to me. When we do launch an appeal we can't suddenly change the grounds if we don't like the direction things are heading.

 

 

[sylofox]

11 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

So to recap you are saying that you know that we have some options and we could pick one and that only people who work high up in the club know what the options are and which one they might pick?

That's about it.

[Nick]

1 minute ago, sylofox said:

That's about it.

Keep me posted on that Sylo! 

[red5]

26 minutes ago, sylofox said:

I've been told the club has two or three options to take but only have one chance. The club know if we get this wrong it's tough untill January.

 

Also been told all meetings on this matter are strictly need to know. They don't want leaks that could screw up our appeal.

 

13 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

So to recap you are saying that you know that we have some options and we could pick one and that only people who work high up in the club know what the options are and which one they might pick?

So to recap the incompetents who messed it up first time are certain to mess it up again so are keeping quiet about it.

[SheppyFox]

Bantz

[1972 Fox]

2 hours ago, sylofox said:

I've been told the club has two or three options to take but only have one chance. The club know if we get this wrong it's tough untill January.

 

Also been told all meetings on this matter are strictly need to know. They don't want leaks that could screw up our appeal.

So they don't want leaks about this but what you are quoting above is leaked information? 

 

I think the likely outcome will be that it's tough until January!

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

So they don't want leaks about this but what you are quoting above is leaked information? 

 

I think the likely outcome will be that it's tough until January!

They leaked that that don't want leaks, but didn't want any other information leaking. 

[Bamba's Babes]

This will go very well.

[baldeagle]

Some of the guess work in this thread is amazing 

[sylofox]

5 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

So they don't want leaks about this but what you are quoting above is leaked information? 

 

I think the likely outcome will be that it's tough until January!

What specially have I said. So it's known around the club meetings have been had with legal eagles re Silva and an appeal.

 

Knowing a meeting has been had about a subject and knowing what's said are two different things.

 

While your trying to take the piss id be worried if they had not had meetings.

But hey your the clever one.

[waylander]

6 minutes ago, sylofox said:

What specially have I said. So it's known around the club meetings have been had with legal eagles re Silva and an appeal.

 

Knowing a meeting has been had about a subject and knowing what's said are two different things.

 

While your trying to take the piss id be worried if they had not had meetings.

But hey your the clever one.

Thanks for the info some of us appreciate it still ?

[sylofox]

1 minute ago, waylander said:

Thanks for the info some of us appreciate it still ?

I know some do. But it's no wonder with some attitudes on here why people stop giving out info they get.

[bald reynard]

22 minutes ago, waylander said:

Thanks for the info some of us appreciate it still ?

I appreciate it as well Sylo - keep posting and don't let the bu**ers grind you down ! 

[CORNFOX68]

Come on lads the answer is simple they are looking for the right person to bung at fifa not as simple as

when Sepp was in charge

[sylofox]

2 minutes ago, bald reynard said:

I appreciate it as well Sylo - keep posting and don't let the bu**ers grind you down ! 

Take a little more than some sarcastic tosser on a keyboard.

 

[moose6913]

Good updates. Any idea of a timescale for the appeal process?

[red5]

5 minutes ago, moose6913 said:

Good updates. Any idea of a timescale for the appeal process?

Before February.

[Orange seat]

7 minutes ago, moose6913 said:

Good updates. Any idea of a timescale for the appeal process?

Not a clue but I'm pretty sure it was the owners helicopter that just flew over my house and landed at the training ground a minute ago. Possible progression on Silva? (I can hope!)

[moose6913]

Yeah, we can all hope! Fingers crossed the silence from the club means that they are confident of a resolution.....................

[mozartfox]

21 minutes ago, Orange seat said:

Not a clue but I'm pretty sure it was the owners helicopter that just flew over my house and landed at the training ground a minute ago. Possible progression on Silva? (I can hope!)

Or they are attempting to cover the legal bill by taking Rudkin up in the air for a sponsored Parachute Jump without a Chute?