Vardy - I want to win more trophies

[Jimmy]

Vardy leaving would finally force a change in style, as sad as it would be it might actually benefit us long term

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

Vardy leaving would finally force a change in style, as sad as it would be it might actually benefit us long term

I've wondered this I must say. Though i'd still hate it.

[Jimmy]

Just now, toddybad said:

I've wondered this I must say. Though i'd still hate it.

oh yeah there is no reason we need Vardy to leave to change style.

 

If Chelsea do want Vardy make them give us some of their top prospects as part of the deal

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

oh yeah there is no reason we need Vardy to leave to change style.

 

If Chelsea do want Vardy make them give us some of their top prospects as part of the deal

Andreas Christianson swap with a 1-year batshuayi loan...

Hmm not convinced

[Jimmy]

6 minutes ago, toddybad said:

Andreas Christianson swap with a 1-year batshuayi loan...

Hmm not convinced

half the current Eng U20's are Chelsea players, Germany are said to be envious of the current crop, I meant some of them

[Charl91]

On a slightly different note, is it me or is Vardy a fair bit slower this year?

[Foxxed]

There's always the illustrious Belgium second division trophy up for grabs.

[Dames]

1 hour ago, Charl91 said:

On a slightly different note, is it me or is Vardy a fair bit slower this year?

Was bound to happen when he’s on a diet of redbull and snuss.

[Unclenobhead]

On 17/10/2017 at 15:32, Jimmy said:

oh yeah there is no reason we need Vardy to leave to change style.

 

If Chelsea do want Vardy make them give us some of their top prospects as part of the deal

Agreed, if Chelsea think they can play him and its not so long ago Arsenal thought the same then why cant we? Pegging him as a dog chasing a stick is disrespectful to Vardy in my opinion

[Unclenobhead]

1 hour ago, Charl91 said:

On a slightly different note, is it me or is Vardy a fair bit slower this year?

Must admit watching him live I think hd is just as quick, been carrying that injury to his hio aswell remember

[Bugg]

1 hour ago, Charl91 said:

On a slightly different note, is it me or is Vardy a fair bit slower this year?

I remember seeing this question asked last season when we were playing equally negative football, then as soon as we started pressing high up the pitch again he looked just as fast as in the title winning season.

[Tuna]

If I was JV, I'd leave at the end of the season.

[Unclenobhead]

8 minutes ago, Tuna said:

If I was JV, I'd leave at the end of the season.

Why don't you just stick to being Tuna and leave now??

[nnfox]

On 17/10/2017 at 15:27, Jimmy said:

Vardy leaving would finally force a change in style, as sad as it would be it might actually benefit us long term

I'm not so sure that we would have to change our style if he left.  Granted, he is the best that we have in that role but  I think he is good enough to play in a number of styles.  We don't have to play the way we do because of JV.

 

It's Mahrez that holds us back.  He can only play on the wing in a 442.  If he leaves then we can be much more flexible in our set up.  The trouble is the big teams that can afford him realise this and as they don't play 442, so they have left him alone.

[Tuna]

10 minutes ago, Unclenobhead said:

Why don't you just stick to being Tuna and leave now??

If I was him, at 31, I'd be looking at what's out there and a possible new challenge. Obviously I want him to stay here.

[STUHILL]

I would push for a big move in January if I was him. We simply aren't matching his ambitions and his stock is still high enough to get a move to a bigger club here or abroad. 

 

Of course I would like him to stay but I wouldn't begrudge him a move, and I certainly think we would be in OK shape with Slimani and hopefully a much more confident and improved Iheanacho. 

 

The way we are going, we are a long way of winning trophies and he probably has only 2-3 years at the highest level, i.e top 6 team. 

[Kitchandro]

On 17/10/2017 at 16:27, Jimmy said:

Vardy leaving would finally force a change in style, as sad as it would be it might actually benefit us long term

I'm interested to hear what style you think we'd be playing without him?

 

We haven't exactly used him properly for some time since our tempo is so painfully slow. We haven't played 'the style' you are talking about since Kante left, apart from a few very successful matches (I'm thinking about 4-2 against Man CIty, 2-0 against Sevilla, 3-1 against Liverpool, the unfortunate 4-3 loss to Arsenal this season).

 

Therefore I'd argue we've already changed style to a slow tempo one and, let's be honest, it's not working.

[Unclenobhead]

1 hour ago, Tuna said:

If I was him, at 31, I'd be looking at what's out there and a possible new challenge. Obviously I want him to stay here.

I know mate, I was only joking, you gave me an open goal and I tapped it in 

[TheHitman™]

3 hours ago, nnfox said:

I'm not so sure that we would have to change our style if he left.  Granted, he is the best that we have in that role but  I think he is good enough to play in a number of styles.  We don't have to play the way we do because of JV.

 

It's Mahrez that holds us back.  He can only play on the wing in a 442.  If he leaves then we can be much more flexible in our set up.  The trouble is the big teams that can afford him realise this and as they don't play 442, so they have left him alone.

I actually don't agree with this. Mahrez plays in different formations for Algeria and with his skillset I wouldn't be surprised if he played well as a right forward in a 343. That formation would give him less defensive duties.

[Wymsey]

There's the worry in that when will he start to lose his pace, which has aided him immensely for the goals he has scored?

I thought Iheanacho, although hasn't scored yet and am confident that he'll be like Vardy, would be one who would perform effectively straightaway but early reports appear that he's quite some way off re-discovering his goalscoring form from Manchester City.

 

I don't think there'll be/It'll probably be rare to see another type like Vardy with the potential he has reached, especially someone English/British, and like others still don't understand why Ulloa has received another couple/few year's contract at his age and is well behind the pecking order.

[daddylonglegs]

On ‎17‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 15:27, Jimmy said:

Vardy leaving would finally force a change in style, as sad as it would be it might actually benefit us long term

Our style is very simple to change. 

 

A lot of people in our successful years were saying how we pressed as a team and our positive energy started from the fornt (Vardy). It's now the opposite. 

Vardy now has nothing to do with our style of play -  because we don't have one. Our negative 'style' of play comes from the fact 50% of our back 4 (Simpson and Morgan) know one way of passing - straight lofted balls. 

We would see a huge difference in possession and the way we used the ball if we played Amartey at rb and Dragovic/anyone who can keep the ball on the floor at cb. 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

I was with you until you wrote playing Amartey 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

16 hours ago, TheHitman™ said:

I actually don't agree with this. Mahrez plays in different formations for Algeria and with his skillset I wouldn't be surprised if he played well as a right forward in a 343. That formation would give him less defensive duties.

Massive gulf in class between PL and African football.

[Lovejoy]

Vardy is 31 in January. Genuinely can't see who'd pay good dollar and his £100k+ p/w wages.

[norwichfox]

19 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

I'm interested to hear what style you think we'd be playing without him?

 

We don't have a style playing with him either....sad days