Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Unabomber]

17 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

MattP was a decent poster and, despite his political beliefs/suspect trolling, he shouldn't have been banned from this forum.

Don’t think he got banned think he just left. Also he was a good poster I agree. 

[Heathrow fox]

Can’t believe the amount of posts suggesting limits on having children.
The majority of the northern hemisphere is going to see population decline in the coming decades.This includes China which may see a shortfall of half a billion and maybe more.Japans and a lot of eastern/southern Europe could see their populations drop by half at the current rate.

So who pays for the elderly then?Anyone in their twenties is certainly going to feel the full whack of this.1 worker to support 2 elderly.It used to be 6/1 the other way round.

I think we should be trying to have as many children as possible.It should infact pay to have children.

[Heathrow fox]

5 hours ago, orangecity23 said:

The housing market is clearly completely fecked, I have massive sympathy for any of the poor feckers growing up today, at least I've paid off all my student loans, and have a saved up pile of cash that should let me get on the ladder sometime soon at a push. The current young mob are getting stiffed for 40K+ student debt for starters, graduating into a job market that will have **** all wage growth thanks to "recovery" from the pandemic (not that we ever had much of a "recovery" from 2008 financial crisis for the average pleb). The problem is everything is run for banks, and they demand growth forever, and the only growth they'll accept is pumped up house prices until the end of time. Look at the house prices post 2008 - an entire global recession solely caused by banks overexposing themselves to inflated house prices and people's inability to afford their mortgages in the USA. Solution? print a ****load of money, cob it at banks, then reinflate house prices again. I saw a graph of prices in this country over the last 10+ years - didn't even go down after 2008, just a minor horizontal blip, swiftly 'corrected' back to 10% annual growth. The only lever governments of either variety in this country use on our pigging economy is the one to inflate house prices - pandemic started 2 years ago, first thing they did was make it so even though everyone else wasn't allowed in someone's home, there was an exception for estate agents, then ditched stamp duty and superheated the fecking market.

 

It will be a cold day in hell before the "housing" crisis is ever resolved in this country, our politicians would sooner have the entire population slaving away to an early death in dead end jobs, or starving to death in the street whilst the entire productive economy of manufacturing, services or retail shuts up shop before they dared touch anything that might even slow down the rise of a house price, let alone lower it.

 

TLDR - seriously considering a vote for El Presidente Finnegano. And Leicester is the perfect place to start the revolution, the CIA will have a difficult time trying to send an amphibious invasion of armed estate agents down the grand union canal, we can just shut one fo the locks.

I seem to remember mild panic autumn 08 and a drop of 10% and more (house prices) in certain areas the next year.Leicester being one of those areas maybe?My best friend bought his house at the very worst time.

Interest rates were immediately cut,so that balanced things out and yes the prices started to rise again.Rapidly.

The landlord/tenant situation will eventually become a major flash point.In theory Labour should side with the tenant.Promise to magically build 3 billion council houses overnight.

It can’t and won’t though as it’s such a complex issue.The landlord is now doing the job of the local authority,but has to do so at the market rate.Obviously building loads of social housing would crash the market.What a mess.

[orangecity23]

33 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

I seem to remember mild panic autumn 08 and a drop of 10% and more (house prices) in certain areas the next year.Leicester being one of those areas maybe?My best friend bought his house at the very worst time.

Interest rates were immediately cut,so that balanced things out and yes the prices started to rise again.Rapidly.

The landlord/tenant situation will eventually become a major flash point.In theory Labour should side with the tenant.Promise to magically build 3 billion council houses overnight.

It can’t and won’t though as it’s such a complex issue.The landlord is now doing the job of the local authority,but has to do so at the market rate.Obviously building loads of social housing would crash the market.What a mess.

You are right, there was a dip followed by a recovery, I misremebered the graph - once enough cash was helicoptered in they started shooting up again though.

 

Shame nobody in charge of economic policy bothered to sort out people's wages while they were pumping our money into banks. Guess that "trickle down" effect stopped somewhere along the way!

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 hours ago, Wymsey said:

MattP was a decent poster and, despite his political beliefs/suspect trolling, he shouldn't have been banned from this forum.

Was he banned? 
 

He’s become a dad now I believe which must take up a bit of posting time 

[Foxdiamond]

40 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

I seem to remember mild panic autumn 08 and a drop of 10% and more (house prices) in certain areas the next year.Leicester being one of those areas maybe?My best friend bought his house at the very worst time.

Interest rates were immediately cut,so that balanced things out and yes the prices started to rise again.Rapidly.

The landlord/tenant situation will eventually become a major flash point.In theory Labour should side with the tenant.Promise to magically build 3 billion council houses overnight.

It can’t and won’t though as it’s such a complex issue.The landlord is now doing the job of the local authority,but has to do so at the market rate.Obviously building loads of social housing would crash the market.What a mess.

I agree. Not expert in these matters so forgive my simple view.  Problem seems to be that too much depends on house prices. Everyone deserves good housing and be secure without fear. I think so many issues are caused by the lack of true affordable housing. Should we surprised when crime and social ills are so common in poor areas. When governments shrug their shoulders I don't believe it. This country was on its knees after ww2 but huge investment improved housing beyond what was thought possible in the 30s. Political will is the first thing required. 

 

[Heathrow fox]

6 minutes ago, orangecity23 said:

You are right, there was a dip followed by a recovery, I misremebered the graph - once enough cash was helicoptered in they started shooting up again though.

 

Shame nobody in charge of economic policy bothered to sort out people's wages while they were pumping our money into banks. Guess that "trickle down" effect stopped somewhere along the way!

Building slowed down north of Watford for a time aswell.Not quite so much down south.And of course the credit crunch.Don’t think I heard that phrase again 2012 onwards.Couldn’t agree more with you on the matter btw.

[Heathrow fox]

1 hour ago, Foxdiamond said:

I agree. Not expert in these matters so forgive my simple view.  Problem seems to be that too much depends on house prices. Everyone deserves good housing and be secure without fear. I think so many issues are caused by the lack of true affordable housing. Should we surprised when crime and social ills are so common in poor areas. When governments shrug their shoulders I don't believe it. This country was on its knees after ww2 but huge investment improved housing beyond what was thought possible in the 30s. Political will is the first thing required. 

 

Nail on head

[leicsmac]

3 hours ago, Heathrow fox said:

Can’t believe the amount of posts suggesting limits on having children.
The majority of the northern hemisphere is going to see population decline in the coming decades.This includes China which may see a shortfall of half a billion and maybe more.Japans and a lot of eastern/southern Europe could see their populations drop by half at the current rate.

So who pays for the elderly then?Anyone in their twenties is certainly going to feel the full whack of this.1 worker to support 2 elderly.It used to be 6/1 the other way round.

I think we should be trying to have as many children as possible.It should infact pay to have children.

This is a problem. But is it a big a problem as critical resource scarcity and contamination caused by the consistent population growth you're suggesting here to act as a support structure? I think we're going to have to choose between one or the other.

 

This is entirely opinion, but I think coming up with creative ways to support the elderly with a greying but stable population (for a time) is an easier problem to solve than addressing the resource problems a constantly growing population will generate.

[Heathrow fox]

14 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

This is a problem. But is it a big a problem as critical resource scarcity and contamination caused by the consistent population growth you're suggesting here to act as a support structure? I think we're going to have to choose between one or the other.

 

This is entirely opinion, but I think coming up with creative ways to support the elderly with a greying but stable population (for a time) is an easier problem to solve than addressing the resource problems a constantly growing population will generate.

Think it’s a very unusual way for a species to react to a problem.Reproduce less.Must be some animal out there that try’s this tactic.

Technically Koreans will be extinct eventually if their birth rate continues at the current rate.At least that would go someway to solving man made climate change.

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said:

Think it’s a very unusual way for a species to react to a problem.Reproduce less.Must be some animal out there that try’s this tactic.

Technically Koreans will be extinct eventually if their birth rate continues at the current rate.At least that would go someway to solving man made climate change.

That it is. But given that the rules of evolution that species follow tend to result inevitably in their extinction in perhaps a shorter term than is possible (or desired), perhaps mankind might seek to buck the trend there,

 

TBH given access to global travel and relationship-forming pretty much all global ethnicities will one day become indistinct anyway (within around 10,000 years), a process called "panmixia". That's an awful lot of "if", though.

 

In any case, as Finn said a page or two back, we either sort this population issue ourselves or nature does it for us and we really won't like the way it will choose to do so.

[Guest SO1]

Can't have a life without contrast.

[ozleicester]

1 hour ago, SO1 said:

Can't have a life without contrast.

Ohh yes you can

[LiberalFox]

On 06/01/2022 at 17:56, Daggers said:

Free education, dentistry, prescriptions, final salary pensions, early retirement, massive property value profits, etc...and then they all voted to take it away from their kids. All the Boomers owned/almost owned their properties by the time the high interest rates kicked in.

It just proves that a cushy life ruined a generation. 

[LiberalFox]

I find most of "the left" completely obnoxious. 

[HighPeakFox]

1 hour ago, LiberalFox said:

I find most of "the left" completely obnoxious. 

I find obnoxious people obnoxious

[Buce]

3 hours ago, LiberalFox said:

I find most of "the left" completely obnoxious. 

 

I find sweeping statements based on a very small sample size unworthy of consideration.

[LiberalFox]

5 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

I find sweeping statements based on a very small sample size unworthy of consideration.

Well I wasn't referring to anyone here 

 

Mostly the Labour party. 

[FoxesDeb]

12 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

I find sweeping statements based on a very small sample size unworthy of consideration.

I'd say there is a pretty big sample size here 

[Daggers]

Oven chips are better than chip shop chips

[Heathrow fox]

2 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Oven chips are better than chip shop chips

At least they’re consistent.I use to live on them.

[BertFill]

6 hours ago, LiberalFox said:

I find most of "the left" completely obnoxious. 

It’s probably mutual. Libs and Labour seem to hate each other, and argue with each other, far more than the people they should be concerned with, like tories and fascists (although the difference between those two is blurring somewhat).

[BertFill]

2 hours ago, Buce said:

 

I find sweeping statements based on a very small sample size unworthy of consideration.

What, all of them?

[bovril]

7 hours ago, LiberalFox said:

I find most of "the left" completely obnoxious. 

The very online Anglophone left can be exceptionally obnoxious and sneering, especially towards people who want to live what we could call a traditional lifestyle. 

[leicsmac]

On 04/09/2019 at 20:31, leicsmac said:

This has moved from an idea to a firm belief for me in recent times: a supranational organisation with enforcing power beyond that of any nation state (basically the U.N. with actual teeth), focusing on issues that affect the entire world (such as environmental ones) is not only desirable but is actually critical for the long term, as the big nation states have proved and are proving, time and again, that they cannot be trusted to act in the best interest of anyone else short term or even themselves long term.

 

Covid has sadly proven a lot of this true.

 

So, repeated for emphasis.