Shooting in Las Vegas

[Guest MattP]

I watched the news pretty much all morning and no one was saying this was a terrorist attack. 

 

No one even knew the colour of the killer or suspected anything. 

 

It's a bit different to a bloke running people over shouting "Allah Akbar" - that gives a slight clue to the press.

[urban.spaceman]

What really blows my mind is that, right up until he pulled that trigger he had not broken a single Nevada law.

 

The guy had a fundamental legal right to buy and accumulate a stockpile of assault rifles, purchase enough ammunition to reload 15 times and maim 400 people, carry it openly in public and in casinos, and set up his weapons at a crowd of 30,000 people below from his hotel window.

 

His didn't break any laws. Until he pulled the trigger.

 

 

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, MattP said:

I watched the news pretty much all morning and no one was saying this was a terrorist attack. 

 

No one even knew the colour of the killer or suspected anything. 

 

It's a bit different to a bloke running people over shouting "Allah Akbar" - that gives a slight clue to the press.

 

@TiffToff88, want to chime in on this one? Know you mentioned something in the other thread.

[Webbo]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

@TiffToff88, want to chime in on this one? Know you mentioned something in the other thread.

Nobody was saying this on the news here this morning, which is where most of us on here get our information from.

[Babylon]

13 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Exactly what does it matter to those killed exactly what the killer believed in? That's sort of my point, really - there's different definitions and different reactions based on the demographic of the killer, when dead is dead.

Sorry I must have misread, yeah I totally agree with you on that.

[urban.spaceman]

Trump's speaking in half an hour. This should be good.

[lifted*fox]

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/aug/27/nicholas-kristof/more-americans-killed-guns-1968-all-wars-says-colu/

 

More Americans killed by guns since 1968 than in all U.S. wars, columnist Nicholas Kristof writes

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Nobody was saying this on the news here this morning, which is where most of us on here get our information from.

Fair enough.

 

As said in the thread you started though, there is a distinct lack of even-handedness regarding using that term.

[lifted*fox]

4 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Trump's speaking in half an hour. This should be good.

 

is there a link for this online?

[Webbo]

I give it an hour before somebody on here claims it's Trump's fault.

[urban.spaceman]

2 minutes ago, lifted*fox said:

 

is there a link for this online?

Probably here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-41466148

[lifted*fox]

2 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Probably here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-41466148

 

Thanks dude but that links to a 36 sec video from the shooting.

 

I've just got BBC News up on iPlayer now. 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcnews#

 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, Webbo said:

I give it an hour before somebody on here claims it's Trump's fault.

What will be interesting will be if he chooses to politicise it, and if so, who gets blamed?

[NewEnglandFox]

6 minutes ago, lifted*fox said:

 

is there a link for this online?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/live

[Webbo]

Just now, leicsmac said:

What will be interesting will be if he chooses to politicise it, and if so, who gets blamed?

It doesn't really matter what he's say though, people will still come to a negative conclusion.

[RobHawk]

Just now, Webbo said:

It doesn't really matter what he's say though, people will still come to a negative conclusion.

What do you expect - he's a WUM

Its like the boy who cried wolf - eventually you stop listening and draw your own conclusion, nobody's fault but his own. 

[Guest MattP]

9 minutes ago, Webbo said:

I give it an hour before somebody on here claims it's Trump's fault.

Guaranteed by 6pm people will be more outraged by words from Trump than the actual mass murder. 

[Danno]

ISIS have claimed responsibility

[lgfualol]

Did not expect that. What the ****.

 

Saying that, ISIS takes responsibility for sharts.

[Finnegan]

What will **** me off more than the terrorist / lone wolf argument will be when people follow up by starting to talk about his mental health like its some sort of ****ing reason or excuse. 

[Wymsey]

6 minutes ago, DanNDH88 said:

ISIS have claimed responsibility

They would wouldn't they.

 

Can guarantee this person was severely mentally-ill, and was failed by the local authorities.

 

Edit: Oops, just posted this than saw @Finnegan's comment above..

[RobHawk]

1 minute ago, Finnegan said:

What will **** me off more than the terrorist / lone wolf argument will be when people follow up by starting to talk about his mental health like its some sort of ****ing reason or excuse. 

#whitepeopleexcuses

 

[Guest MattP]

Very different tone from Trump that, almost like a vicar or a priest.

[lifted*fox]

wtf was that? rambled on nonsensically about god from a teleprompter for 3 minutes.

 

 

[lifted*fox]

1 minute ago, MattP said:

Very different tone from Trump that, almost like a vicar or a priest.

 

clearly told to ****ing behave himself and watch his mouth in light of the fact it's america's worst shooting.

 

but there is no substance to anything he's said. 

 

nothing to be outraged about whatsoever but it just doesn't mean anything.