Hamza Choudhury

[lgfualol]

5 minutes ago, eblair said:

Pathetic from mods deleting that thread. Our player has engaged posting and liking racist messages on Twitter. Needs banning and we shouldn’t shy away from it on here either

 

Shame on you mods

What did I miss? What’s Hamza done?

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

What did I miss? What’s Hamza done?

Two footed tackle on manor Solomon ……(JK) 

Edited 30 October 2023 by st albans fox

[westernpark]

I will be disappointed if he’s in the squad on Friday night, unless he’s apologised and the club have acknowledged it. 

[indierich06]

8 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

What did I miss? What’s Hamza done?

Posted 'from the river to the sea' on Twitter - same thing as El Ghazi got sacked for.

[GingerrrFox]

I wish people would bore off about Hamza. James McClean has never been banned for refusing to wear a poppy which can be seen as an offensive, political statement - in my mind Hamza hasn’t said or done anything to incite violence or prejudice and people need to stop being so busy about it. 
 

 

[westernpark]

1 minute ago, GingerrrFox said:

I wish people would bore off about Hamza. James McClean has never been banned for refusing to wear a poppy which can be seen as an offensive, political statement - in my mind Hamza hasn’t said or done anything to incite violence or prejudice and people need to stop being so busy about it. 
 

 

How can he not be inciting prejudice if he’s called for the erasure of the only Jewish state in the world? 

[LCFCABC]

4 minutes ago, westernpark said:

How can he not be inciting prejudice if he’s called for the erasure of the only Jewish state in the world? 

Has he not stated his wish/opinion that Palestine should be a free country? 

[westernpark]

2 minutes ago, LCFCABC said:

Has he not stated his wish/opinion that Palestine should be a free country? 

No from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, where does that leave Israel? I’m going to stop commenting now, I really like Hamza he’s a local lad and a great ambassador for Asian football. I hope the club suitably punish him and that’s the end of it.

[GingerrrFox]

11 minutes ago, westernpark said:

How can he not be inciting prejudice if he’s called for the erasure of the only Jewish state in the world? 

He’s not said that.

Edited 30 October 2023 by GingerrrFox

[westernpark]

1 minute ago, GingerrrFox said:

He’s not said that.

He’s alluded to it. Last comment for me. 

[eblair]

3 minutes ago, GingerrrFox said:

He’s not said that.

Look at a map. Look at who originated the phrase and what it meant. Look at what happened on October 7th

[justfoxes]

And this is why Politics and football should never mix !!

[majaco]

The statement is open to interpretation. 

 

It is well known that Hamza supports Palestinian rights-  he held a Palestinian flag after the FA Cup win.  It is quite likely that he supports human rights, not just Palestinian rights

[MONreborn]

I'm sorry but Hamza is supporting Palestine who are a people being currently having a genocide occurring to them by acts of terror by Israel. It is a free country and he can say what he likes as long as its not racist. Israel does not represent all Jewish people. The reason why Israel have been able to become the way they are today is that people have correlated anti israeli sentiment with anti semitism. The two are not related. Israel have caused the Palestinian people to live in apartheid, and terrorised them for years. So let's call it what it is, israel and hamas are both terrorists and its innocent children and civilians paying the price. Well done to Hamzah for speaking up for those poor children (DOI I did not see his post but understand the sentiment)

[MONreborn]

I find it crazy that Israel are able to interfer in our freedom of speech like this. It shouldn't be controversial to call a government bombing innocent children terrorists. 

[MONreborn]

16 minutes ago, justfoxes said:

And this is why Politics and football should never mix !!

If you use your platform to be a voice for innocent children being killed, I'd argue this is more important than football itself. 

[westernpark]

3 minutes ago, majaco said:

The statement is open to interpretation. 

 

It is well known that Hamza supports Palestinian rights-  he held a Palestinian flag after the FA Cup win.  It is quite likely that he supports human rights, not just Palestinian rights

If he supported human rights, he wouldn’t have liked a post justifying October 7.

[st albans fox]

1 minute ago, westernpark said:

If he supported human rights, he wouldn’t have liked a post justifying October 7.

This is the crux of it for me 

 

why hasn’t he deleted that like 

 

I’m not particularly bothered about the river to the sea stuff - he’s a footballer, not a brain surgeon and he won’t be the first (or last) person to be ignorant on some things. He vehemently believes in the Palestinian cause - I would assume he involves himself in charitable causes in Gaza and the West Bank. 
 

there must be a code of conduct at the club re social media and after the fa cup final I would think he was reminded about his extra responsibilities as a player and becoming involved in political issues. 
 

and to say again - a large number of Thais are currently into their third week of captivity in Gaza - wtf are they doing being held ???

[les-tah]

Rightly or wrongly he's putting himself on very thin ice publicly voicing his political stance. This could go south very quickly for him. 

[st albans fox]

40 minutes ago, MONreborn said:

I find it crazy that Israel are able to interfer in our freedom of speech like this. It shouldn't be controversial to call a government bombing innocent children terrorists. 

Yep - NATO have a lot to answer for in Afghanistan and Iraq (and many other places btw) 

 

don’t see that many people calling out our govt as terrorists though …..

[gerrytaggart]

I think Hamza understands the politics and history of palestine a lot better than some of the posters on here who clearly get their opinions from the media propaganda that they consume.

[Tommy G]

....and 3....2....1 topic locked. 

[gerblod]

27 minutes ago, MONreborn said:

If you use your platform to be a voice for innocent children being killed, I'd argue this is more important than football itself. 

And that's the honesty and outspokenness that all right-minded individuals need to address to the powers that be. Who at City has the right to judge and discipline a player who is trying to address life or death issues beyond and above a sport? Every organisation, in whatever form, should be calling out this state inspired terrorism for what it is, but international etiquette appears to allow the expression of genuine outrage and horror to be suppressed.

[st albans fox]

15 minutes ago, gerrytaggart said:

I think Hamza understands the politics and history of palestine a lot better than some of the posters on here who clearly get their opinions from the media propaganda that they consume.

Not being pedantic for the sake of it but do you actually know this ? 

[MadsEmil]

People on here are being willfully ignorant about this. 

 

This isn't some isolated incident of Hamza saying something controversial/ inciting, coupled with him liking tweets that were essentially celebrating the slaughter, rape and torture of 1500 innocent people on 07/10, this latest tweet is just another one in a long line of questionable statements Hamza had made recently.

 

For the people who don't understand, "From the river to the sea [Palestine will be free] is already banned and criminally relevant in multiple European countries because their courts have deemed it constitutes hate speech because of its implication that the aforementioned "free Palestine" would abolish and replace the Jewish state currently located between said river and sea.

 

This isn't some case of having differing viewpoints on the matter - this one is simply one step too far and I do hope the club will do something about it because it is not acceptable for a player representing Leicester City to go and call for the destruction of the only safe haven of jewish life in this world.

 

Leicester City is a club meant to welcome everyone from all walks of life, no matter their ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, age or gender.