Max Wall Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 Just now, Crinklyfox said: I am and having seen the movement India are getting with the new ball plus the news that Kohli is injured I'm hoping that England declare soon and let Jimmy Anderson loose. You'd hope so. I know India tend to grind teams into the turf at home when they're on top but there shouldn't be need to do that in this test. I wonder if there being 5 tests in 6 weeks is part of the thought process and they just want to try and demoralise/tire the India bowlers.
leicsmac Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 Why England didn't declare overnight is a mystery on a par with who shot JFK, really.
RowlattsFox Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 Just wasting time here, don’t see the point at all.
Max Wall Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 They must have had weather reports and have an idea of what time they're likely to have. I do get the idea of trying to demoralise India but it does seem unnecessary. Time will tell I guess.
Crinklyfox Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 Shami will skittle sides on another day bowling like like - very unlucky not to pick a couple up this morning. Stage set for Jimmy to get stuck in now.
leicsmac Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 And now the declaration. Guess an extra forty minutes isn't probably going to make a difference.
Max Wall Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: And now the declaration. Guess an extra forty minutes isn't probably going to make a difference. Let's hope not, still a little strange though. Maybe the idea is to have a flat out 90 minutes at them followed by lunch to give them a rest and break up the Indians concentration again. Only thing I can think of to make them play on such a short time.
sm1 Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 3 hours ago, Max Wall said: Pair for Vijay at the hands of Jimmy. He's had some unplayable deliveries. If the weather holds up England should have it all sewed up by the end of today.
Max Wall Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 1 minute ago, sm1 said: He's had some unplayable deliveries. If the weather holds up England should have it all sewed up by the end of today. Tbh, they've all been all at sea. Almost impossible to play Anderson when he's on song and the conditions suit. The ball in the first innings to Vijay was just brilliant.
sm1 Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 True 36 years old and still as deadly as ever. He could carry on past 40 at this rate. It's basically England vs Kholi in this series.
Bert Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 8 hours ago, RowlattsFox said: Are we going to declare too late again? Might as well just declare now and see what happens. Forecast is shit for today and tomorrow. 8 hours ago, Max Wall said: Anyone else a little surprised England are batting on? 8 hours ago, Crinklyfox said: I am and having seen the movement India are getting with the new ball plus the news that Kohli is injured I'm hoping that England declare soon and let Jimmy Anderson loose. 7 hours ago, leicsmac said: Why England didn't declare overnight is a mystery on a par with who shot JFK, really. 7 hours ago, RowlattsFox said: Just wasting time here, don’t see the point at all. Leave it to the pros lads
leicsmac Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 9 minutes ago, Bert said: Leave it to the pros lads They must have had top secret weather data because every average Joe was told we weren't going to get any play at all today.
Bert Posted 12 August 2018 Posted 12 August 2018 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: They must have had top secret weather data because every average Joe was told we weren't going to get any play at all today. Haha, to be fair I’d not expected much play today but came from the races to see them down for 7. Great stuff. Roll on next week.
Guest MattP Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 Anyone know the last time a player played for England and didn't bat, bowl or take a catch in the whole match? (was Rashid this test)
Bobby Hundreds Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 1 hour ago, MattP said: Anyone know the last time a player played for England and didn't bat, bowl or take a catch in the whole match? (was Rashid this test) Gareth Batty v Bangladesh at Lords in 2005.
Captain... Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 1 hour ago, MattP said: Anyone know the last time a player played for England and didn't bat, bowl or take a catch in the whole match? (was Rashid this test) https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/aug/12/adil-rashid-second-test-lords Sorry it's a guardian link: "Complete idleness here isn’t a first. The most famous of non-playing Test cricketers is probably Jack McBryan of Somerset, a prisoner of war during the first world war, who played once in 1924, didn’t bat or bowl or take a catch and never played again. In 2005 Gareth Batty did the same at Lord’s in a seamer-led thrashing of Bangladesh, his own contribution to that glorious summer, albeit one that has to date failed to yield an MBE." Edit to add: https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/805993 "Overall, there have been 13 players to pull off the somewhat unwanted feat in 2315 Test matches over the years. Interestingly, the last man to not be called upon to do anything too critical was also an England player, and then too, it was at Lord’s."
Bobby Hundreds Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 3 hours ago, MattP said: Anyone know the last time a player played for England and didn't bat, bowl or take a catch in the whole match? (was Rashid this test) At least it cements his commitment to not playing red ball cricket.
Max Wall Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 16 hours ago, Bert said: Leave it to the pros lads Fair point Bert! Given the final outcome, the batting on yesterday morning still seemed unnecessary but, ultimately, the result is the only thing that matters so I guess you could say they got it spot on Interesting to see what happens from here. Disastrous tours are common place once it starts going wrong for a team, it'll be good to see how India respond from here. Really the only positive they have so far is Kohli finally getting two scores in the first test. That could have been so different too. I'm aware you have to bowl well too but the swing and conditions at Lords would make it very difficult for any touring team batting. Roll on the next test.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 Just a thought re: the later declaration, maybe Root wanted to demoralise the Indian team further by keeping them out in the field.
Bert Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 3 hours ago, Max Wall said: Fair point Bert! Given the final outcome, the batting on yesterday morning still seemed unnecessary but, ultimately, the result is the only thing that matters so I guess you could say they got it spot on Interesting to see what happens from here. Disastrous tours are common place once it starts going wrong for a team, it'll be good to see how India respond from here. Really the only positive they have so far is Kohli finally getting two scores in the first test. That could have been so different too. I'm aware you have to bowl well too but the swing and conditions at Lords would make it very difficult for any touring team batting. Roll on the next test. It was tongue in cheek more than anything. Nice to see us dominate just a bit of shame that it’s only really home tests at the moment. Off to Trent Bridge on Sunday so hoping for a full days play whilst getting a twat tan boozed up
Max Wall Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 22 minutes ago, Bert said: It was tongue in cheek more than anything. Nice to see us dominate just a bit of shame that it’s only really home tests at the moment. Off to Trent Bridge on Sunday so hoping for a full days play whilst getting a twat tan boozed up Yeah, I guessed it was tongue in cheek. Off to Trent Bridge, Lucky you. Enjoy!
Osavo Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 Off to Trent Bridge on the Monday for the third day. Hoping for us to seal the series on that day.
fuchsntf Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 So same squad,no Stokes. Great opportunity now for both the youngsters..Pope and Curran. Another ground for the seamers,so Woakes,Broad and Anderson backed up with Curran. Good training for the Indian Batsman. Talking of batsman,time our top 3, thought of seeing that 100,before collapsing...
Max Wall Posted 13 August 2018 Posted 13 August 2018 12 hours ago, MattP said: Anyone know the last time a player played for England and didn't bat, bowl or take a catch in the whole match? (was Rashid this test) Malan was close to that last week.
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