It's not Rudkins Fault

[sylofox]

In the merc. Sorry I can't add the link for some reason.

 

But Rudders has nothing to do with picking players. All he does is do the deal. So we can blame him for fecking up the silva move.

[urban.spaceman]

It's not Rudkins fault except when it is, basically?

[Guest MattP]

It's always baffled me people blame Rudkin for player recruitment when we have a guy called Eduardo Macia who is our "head of senior player recruitment".

 

There is a big clue in his job title.

[Foxes1]

But he is the DOF so surely the people who pick the players work for him also he is surely responsible for picking the managet

[weller54]

14 minutes ago, Foxes1 said:

But he is the DOF so surely the people who pick the players work for him also he is surely responsible for picking the managet

Managet... A fledgling Manager? 

[TheUltimateWinner]

I think our recruitment post the period where we didn't have a head of recruitment (in between Walsh & Macia) has been good. 

 

The 14 seconds late fiasco however was ridculous and should have been a sackable offence for whoever was responsible. 

[EnglishOxide]

Who IS responsible for bringing players in then?

 

Because we end up chasing the same targets for years. Pereira was on our shortlist 3 years ago.

[Beechey]

19 minutes ago, MattP said:

It's always baffled me people blame Rudkin for player recruitment when we have a guy called Eduardo Macia who is our "head of senior player recruitment".

 

There is a big clue in his job title.

Between Walsh leaving and Macia joining (the entire summer 2016 window) do we have any idea who headed our recruitment?

[Guest MattP]

1 minute ago, Beechey said:

Between Walsh leaving and Macia joining (the entire summer 2016 window) do we have any idea who headed our recruitment?

Not that I'm aware of, you would assume some sort of collective effort based on a shortlist we already had. Reality is I suppose that we don't know.

[mozartfox]

1 minute ago, Beechey said:

Between Walsh leaving and Macia joining (the entire summer 2016 window) do we have any idea who headed our recruitment?

I was told by someone ITK it was Filbert.

[Beechey]

Just now, mozartfox said:

I was told by someone ITK it was Filbert.

Furry little ****. Gerrimout.

[davieG]

10 minutes ago, EnglishOxide said:

Who IS responsible for bringing players in then?

 

Because we end up chasing the same targets for years. Pereira was on our shortlist 3 years ago.

According to the media, I don't recall the club ever quoting this or any other player.

[Turbogre]

32 minutes ago, sylofox said:

In the merc. Sorry I can't add the link for some reason.

 

But Rudders has nothing to do with picking players. All he does is do the deal. So we can blame him for fecking up the silva move.

Sorry John.

[davieG]

How Leicester City identify and recruit transfer targets explained as summer window opens

The transfer window is now open, but City have been preparing for a busy summer for quite some time.

 

By

Rob TannerFootball Writer

12:00, 17 MAY 2018

UPDATED12:04, 17 MAY 2018

 

Leicester City manager Claude Puel has plenty of work to do this summer to refresh and rebuild his squad ahead of the new campaign.

The Frenchman will ultimately be judged on his transfer dealings during the window, which opened today, but the City boss is just at the forefront of a long and complex recruitment process.

 

City have an established transfer recruitment system which was set up by former head of recruitment Steve Walsh at Belvoir Drive, and is now overseen by Head of Senior Player Recruitment Eduardo Macia, who was appointed during Claudio Ranieri’s tenure as manager to replace Walsh when he left to join Everton.

A team of analysts pour over hours of video tapes of games from around the world to follow up initial recommendations from scouts employed on various continents and in designated countries.

The idea is to then give the head of recruitment as much analytical data and statistics to properly assess the player.

If the player is seen as a potential target, he will then be scouted in action as well, and the head of recruitment will be frequently flying abroad to watch the players of interest before deciding whether to recommend the individual to the manager.

 

The player's background is also checked, with information gathered about their lifestyle, personality and temperament.

When the players have been properly assessed, which can take months, a list of possible targets is then presented to the management team, who will then draw up their lists of preferred targets; plan A, plan B etc.

It will then be handed over to City’s director of football Jon Rudkin to do the deals, to negotiate with clubs and agents to try to get the preferred target.

Rudkin has been in the firing line of some supporters for recent failings in the transfer market when new arrivals have failed to have the impact expected, but Rudkin’s role isn’t to identify good players who will fit in at City, but to be the front man at the end of the deal.

Leicester City's director of football Jon Rudkin, pictured with vice-chairman Top, will be tasked with spending the money wisely (Image: Plumb Images/Leicester City FC via Getty Images)

It is a difficult role to negotiate, cajole and persuade City’s number one targets to join the club, and quite often City have not been able to land their desired player.

In fact, for every deal that is done in a window, there will be another two or three that were not possible, whether that is the other club do not want to do business or are asking too much money, or the player himself does not want to come.

That happened in the last summer window when City tried unsuccessfully to sign Jonny Evans and Gylfi Sigurdsson.

The summer before, when City had just won the title, City tried to get Troy Deeney from Watford and Michael Keane from Burnley, but the deals could not be done. Deeney signed a new contract at Vicarage Road, while Keane eventually joined Everton.

 

Sometimes it is a question of patience as situations can develop late in a window when players are willing to commit themselves or clubs holding out for more money decide to do business, or City decide to sell and must replace, as happened when Danny Drinkwater got his desired move to Chelsea and then had to move to sign Adrien Silva at the last minute, leaving little time for paperwork to be completed and the process concluded.

City will be keen to avoid that scenario this summer.

[Babylon]

36 minutes ago, sylofox said:

In the merc. Sorry I can't add the link for some reason.

 

But Rudders has nothing to do with picking players. All he does is do the deal. So we can blame him for fecking up the silva move.

Has anyone ever actually blamed him for picking players?

 

What they have blamed him for is struggling to get deals done early (he's getting better), letting people insert release clauses when most other people in this country don't, mucking up with Silva, over paying for players (Slimani had a release clause, we let it expire and then bid on him). Seemingly not planning ahead in terms of manager recruitment... I'm sure I've forgotten some.

[Larry_LCFC]

Is Rudkin working for the Mercury now? The bloke is a snake. 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

But this is the actual problem.

 

What the **** does he do? If it's to negotiate then should get someone actually capable in that regard, with experience, not a youth team director....

 

Or they could just change his title to director of nothing?

Edited 17 May 2018 by Abrasive fox

[mozartfox]

'A team of analysts pour over hours of video tapes of games from around the world' - Mind-boggling what they saw in some of these tapes that made up their minds to place some of the players we brought in on to any frigging list...... 

[st albans fox]

20 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said:

But this is the actual problem.

 

What the **** does he do? If it's to negotiate then should get someone actually capable in that regard, with experience, not a youth team director....

 

Or they could just change his title to director of nothing?

 

You know what he does AF - he ingratiates himself with vichai and top and has their complete trust as their man on the footballing side of the club. On the commercial side they have full trust in Susan whelan. 

 

Its a a cultural thing added to the fact that they aren’t in Leicester most of the time. 

[foxinsocks]

Actually the choice us crap... and the deals are crap.

This needs urgent reform.... what ever part of it rudkin says he does is an admission of crapness

Bin him... 

Other clubs are moving on...we still have puel and rudders.

If the dildo bros get raffa i will be livid

[sylofox]

50 minutes ago, Beechey said:

Furry little ****. Gerrimout.

You're a sad sad man  

[MrSpaM]

1 hour ago, sylofox said:

In the merc. Sorry I can't add the link for some reason.

 

But Rudders has nothing to do with picking players. All he does is do the deal. So we can blame him for fecking up the silva move.

Wasn't a failure to 'do the deal' the whole reason for the Silva debacle in the first place?!?

Edited 17 May 2018 by MrSpaM

[m4DD0gg]

Ofc it's his fault. The buck stops with him he is the dof.

 

Just like if the players play dog shit it's the manager that suffers. 

[Babylon]

Other than the Silva fiasco, I actually think there we've been far better at our dealings. We've got deals done much earlier and quicker than when he first started. We now hear the club won't entertain buy out clauses. Strikes me very much as someone learning their trade and learning from their mistakes.

[turtmcfly]

1 hour ago, Beechey said:

Furry little ****. Gerrimout.

Just needs a relatively small offer from some other club. I imagine it would be very easy to turn his head.