It's not Rudkins Fault

[KFS]

5 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

Depends what his brief was ie whether those responsible for choosing them felt they were worth going all out for. He would have no doubt been given an upper figure to go up to for each one and get the best deal possible, not for him to question choice of player. 

 

Both strange signings. Slimani, a renowned number 9 who, if he had been played in the role he must have been scouted in, might have been a huge success. Did the manager have much say in this as Vardy was hardly going to have his nose pushed out? Wrong age to eventually replace Vardy too. Do scouts know things like tactically the team needs a number 10 not a 9. Were they qualified/experienced enough to believe he could be converted to another role?   Right player, wrong team and time.

 

Musa  also odd. How many of us saw his goals against Barcelona and thought we'd got another absolute steal and a real star on our hands. Yet if the powers that be had read some of the comments made by Moscow supporters the clues were there really, he had undoubted pace but failures with the more important aspects of his game (like being being able to run fast with an actual football at his feet would have being quite handy). If they are not good at certain things in a poor league then they are certainly going to get found out in an aggressive fast paced Premiership! Poor scouting somewhere along the line by someone. 

 

From what we know,  neither of these failures can be laid at Rudkins door. Even if we wince at the price paid, a lot depends upon what his brief was.

So, to Abrasive's point... what is his fvcking job then? A deal maker who has a fixed price when negotiating and no responsibility to identify targets/ strategy for the first team.

 

Just sounds like one of those noncey fashion buyers you're forced to listen to chatting shit on the Eurostar.

 

Director of Football my arse....

[Koke]

Since 2016 debacle we have signed

 

Ndidi

Maguire

Iborra

Iheanacho 

Adrien Silva

Diabate

Jakupovic 

Dragovic  (loan)

Pereira  (likely to sign)

 

Most of these have been positive signings. I think we have come some way of rectifying that horrific summer.

[UPinCarolina]

Macia's signings have been curious, but his track record isn't terrible, considering he wasn't appointed until September 2016. In fact, I'd argue that he's done fine.

Brought us Ndidi, Josh Gordon, Hughes, Maguire, Iborra, Jakupovic, Iheanacho, George Thomas, Silva, Diabate.

Loaned in Drago.

Got rid of Schlupp, Luis Hernandez, Zieler, Lawrence, Drinkwater.

Loaned out a whole lot.

[fairbanksh]

It is very much Rudkins and the boards fault that we haven't taken advantage of winning the league and progressed as far as we should

Some inept transfer dealings, not being able to carry so many negotiations through 

Admittedly we are not a popular club down south but I have met a prominent London based agent who believes that we are naive and amateurish in transfer dealings

Jon Rudkin please stand up you are well out of your depth

[David Hankey]

Ah, the blame game. No-one who is responsible is going to admit other than pass the can, Spineless bastards!!

[ealingfox]

Lot of people on this forum who seemingly don't understand corporate governance or what the word 'Director' means.

[BenTheFox]

9 hours ago, mozartfox said:

Diabate was a Puel signing. What about last season?  Slim/Musa/Mendy/Kapi

Hence why I said this season.

[mozartfox]

1 minute ago, BenTheFox said:

Hence why I said this season.

Yes  - and I was pointing out that Macia most likely had SFA to do with scouting Diabate.  Whilst things may have been moderately successful last summer Window, Rudkin over-saw the car crash of a window the summer after we became crowned champions.  Missing the best chance we ever likely to have to seriously attract top quality players.   The DOF cannot simply wash his hands of responsibility and we have wasted millions.  

[HighPeakFox]

I'm not going to disagree that recruitment has been a bit patchy since the title win, but, I think the club, having never been close to being champions of England previously, was therefore entirely unready to recruit like champions of England. So it doesn't surprise me that we got it a bit wrong. Clubs like Man Utd, Chelsea etc have probably made as many errors, but they have the clout and the depth to hide their errors more effetively. Eric Djemba-Djemba anyone?

[Foxes1]

Lot of the criticism of Rudkin stems from the fact him or any of his team never come out to say anything in interviews as far as I know he refuses to speak to Radio Leicester and this article in the Mercury is all conjecture. After the Silva fiasco Shakespeare was constantly asked what was happening and he didn't know yet he got no support in any of the interviews from the DOF whose job it was to get the deal done on time, basically Shakey was hung out to dry in interviews, which wasn't good enough.

[Albert]

12 hours ago, Foxy-Lady said:

Yes, I do definitely do.

According to agents and players, he is one of the most difficult people to work with in football. Tries to micro-manage everything at LCFC and as a consequence, things don't get done when they should be getting done and deals/negotiations take longer than they ordinarily would at other clubs.

 

As a consequence of micro-management, the Silva deal was an accident waiting to happen and if it hadn't been the Silva deal, it would have happened eventually.

What are your thoughts on Daniel Levy at Spurs? 

[AyewJoking]

On 17/05/2018 at 15:24, turtmcfly said:

Just needs a relatively small offer from some other club. I imagine it would be very easy to turn his head.

Dunno bout that, it looks quite heavy.

[Wymsey]

Is there any more developments on the new training ground anyone (including @urban.spaceman and @dynamark)?

 

Has sounded quite quiet on this front recently.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

On 17/05/2018 at 14:14, weller54 said:

Managet... A fledgling Manager? 

No I think it’s a dyslexic magnet buddy? . . . . . 

[volpeazzurro]

On 18/05/2018 at 13:19, KFS said:

So, to Abrasive's point... what is his fvcking job then? A deal maker who has a fixed price when negotiating and no responsibility to identify targets/ strategy for the first team.

 

Just sounds like one of those noncey fashion buyers you're forced to listen to chatting shit on the Eurostar.

 

Director of Football my arse....

There are many people's jobs that have a certain title that can cover a multimedia of duties. Just because we don't know what exactly his job brief is doesn't mean he's not doing anything or has a cushy number.  All it means is that you and I don't know.  Neither are the club about to divulge the nuts and bolts of their business to a bunch of supporters, why should they? Susan Whelan for example has been with our owners many years,  presumably because they believe her to be doing a good job. The same with Rudkin,  the day they believe he isn't will be the day they get rid. As extremely astute multi millionaire businss owners I trust them to be more knowledgeable than a group of supporters on a forum. If you don't know, you can't judge. Sometimes it's just chestbeating inane uninformed gossip about a man most know little about.

[Foxhateram]

Some mumblings, probably just hearsay, but on facebook there are several 'in the knows' suggesting Walsh is set to replace Rudders.   Cross fingers eh!!

[Beechey]

10 minutes ago, Foxhateram said:

Some mumblings, probably just hearsay, but on facebook there are several 'in the knows' suggesting Walsh is set to replace Rudders.   Cross fingers eh!!

No, not fingers crossed. Walsh was diabolical at Everton in the DoF role.

[Foxhateram]

30 minutes ago, Beechey said:

No, not fingers crossed. Walsh was diabolical at Everton in the DoF role.

Don't remember him ever missing a target due by to 14 seconds       

[Beechey]

1 minute ago, Foxhateram said:

Don't remember him ever missing a target due by to 14 seconds       

Maybe not, but he spent £200m on players that were bang average.

[Foxhateram]

Just now, Beechey said:

Maybe not, but he spent £200m on players that were bang average.

Mismanaged players.  I wouldn't say Rooney, Sigurdsson, Keane and Pickford are bang average players. Neither are Cleverly and Walcott. At the end of the day, once Allardyce came in, Everton looked a decent side, who finished above us in the league. 

[Beechey]

6 minutes ago, Foxhateram said:

Mismanaged players.  I wouldn't say Rooney, Sigurdsson, Keane and Pickford are bang average players. Neither are Cleverly and Walcott. At the end of the day, once Allardyce came in, Everton looked a decent side, who finished above us in the league. 

Bang average in terms of performances. For £200m you'd expect more than dipping into 18th before ending up on a -14 goal difference with only 44 goals scored over 38 games.

I'd have him back as a scout or in that kind of capacity, but not on deal-making.

Edited 20 May 2018 by Beechey

[The Horse's Mouth]

Not broke don't fix it, Rudkin's doing a fine job and works as a perfect scapegoat for when we're doing shite 

[Foxhateram]

Just now, The Horse's Mouth said:

Not broke don't fix it, Rudkin's doing a fine job and works as a perfect scapegoat for when we're doing shite 

Haha a fine job? We lost Kante on the cheap because of a release clause, our star summer signing missed half a season (and became unfit and out of practice) because of a complete calamitous disaster and we've failed to replace positions that we have desperately needed cover for over the last 3 transfer windows. 

 

Yep a terrific job!

[weller54]

1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Not broke don't fix it, Rudkin's doing a fine job and works as a perfect scapegoat for when we're doing shite 

Ok John.  Calm down! 

[The Horse's Mouth]

1 hour ago, Foxhateram said:

Haha a fine job? We lost Kante on the cheap because of a release clause, our star summer signing missed half a season (and became unfit and out of practice) because of a complete calamitous disaster and we've failed to replace positions that we have desperately needed cover for over the last 3 transfer windows. 

 

Yep a terrific job!

Without that release clause, we'd have probably never seen kante in a city shirt, he was pretty desperate to go to Marseille.