jamaal lascelles

[Bryn]

This would represent remarkable business as I think Lascelles is quite possibly better than Maguire but I do not think Lascelles would come to us.

[OhYesNdidi]

3 minutes ago, Bryn said:

This would represent remarkable business as I think Lascelles is quite possibly better than Maguire but I do not think Lascelles would come to us.

No chance is Lascelles better 

[weller54]

26 minutes ago, Bryn said:

This would represent remarkable business as I think Lascelles is quite possibly better than Maguire but I do not think Lascelles would come to us.

Agree. 

He's captain at Newcastle and they've got every chance of having a better season than us! 

[mozartfox]

This ain’t gonna happen.  We have Wes and Jonny Evans so the Management are happy. 

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Harry Maguire is going nowhere!

[La-li-lu-le-lo]

No point getting pissy suggesting Lascelles is better. Because he might actually be.... he is already a born leader, and he has something on his side Maguire doesn’t. Speed and he is dynamic, decent on the ball too... if we were to sell Maguire for £60 odd million and sign Lascelles for £35 odd million, it would be fantastic business.

[Bluearmyfox28]

His brother lives in Leicester too could help us if it came down to us bidding for him.

[weller54]

7 minutes ago, DANGEROUS TIGER said:

Harry Maguire is going nowhere!

Shame if that's the case. 

Cash in while his stock is artificially high! 

[WestLothianFox]

Straight swap, Wes for Lascelles, one captain for another, we can also throw in Benny

[vanity]

6 hours ago, FirePower said:

I'm not saying he's bad I know he is a good defender but he's hardly in the same category as Evans or maguire.

If take him for sure over Mawson and Gibson but 35m I'd rather just wait until a mass exodus' at Newcastle next year 

If you think he isn't on Maguire/Evans level, with respect, you haven't seen Laschelles play enough. He's 24 and a top-5 English CB with room to grow. There is literally nobody running a football team who would take Evans over Laschelles, we would trade Evans AND 10 mill for JL straight up in a heartbeat. The reality is, Maguire has become overrated AF, the hysteria after the WC is ridiculous, his value will never be higher, if we sell him for 50-60 we could replace him almost seamlessly with Laschelles for 30-35. Maguire may have one or two attacking attributes that JL doesn't, but JL is strong in the air (though shorter at a bit under 6-2) and has become capable with the ball at his feet. Many wanted him on the England team over John Stones.

 

Re getting him in a year -- in a year, a more compelling situation may well present itself to him. Chelsea have been sniffing around, as have Liverpool, as have Everton. This is a young lad who has the talent to be starting for a top-6 club in the near-term, and there is value in certainty when it comes to acquiring this sort of talent, locking him into a 5-year deal, and either having him be a rock in our defense, or flipping him for a healthy profit after a couple seasons to the Man. U's of contemporary existence. 

 

I'll also point out that the acquisition would serve to hasten the demise of the Ashley-Benitez partnership. Not that we'd be happy to see that end, we're unanimously delighted with Claude. 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Cool ya jets fellas.

 

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-reject-any-approach-14964593

[vanity]

4 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Cool ya jets fellas.

 

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-reject-any-approach-14964593

Public posturing to extract as much value as possible is pretty typical for clubs, no?

[Big_Nige]

2 hours ago, weller54 said:

Agree. 

He's captain at Newcastle and they've got every chance of having a better season than us! 

 

Just interested on what basis? Comparing last season to their summer business? 

 

Theyve re-signed two loanee’s and Ki from Swansea unless I’ve missed something that happened today. 

Edited 28 July 2018 by Big_Nige

[SouthStandUpperTier]

1 minute ago, vanity said:

Public posturing to extract as much value as possible is pretty typical for clubs, no?

Sometimes. But as with our stance with Maguire, I genuinely don't think that's the case in this instance.

[ARM1968]

40 minutes ago, vanity said:

Public posturing to extract as much value as possible is pretty typical for clubs, no?

That what we”re doing then?

[FirePower]

2 hours ago, vanity said:

If you think he isn't on Maguire/Evans level, with respect, you haven't seen Laschelles play enough. He's 24 and a top-5 English CB with room to grow. There is literally nobody running a football team who would take Evans over Laschelles, we would trade Evans AND 10 mill for JL straight up in a heartbeat. The reality is, Maguire has become overrated AF, the hysteria after the WC is ridiculous, his value will never be higher, if we sell him for 50-60 we could replace him almost seamlessly with Laschelles for 30-35. Maguire may have one or two attacking attributes that JL doesn't, but JL is strong in the air (though shorter at a bit under 6-2) and has become capable with the ball at his feet. Many wanted him on the England team over John Stones.

 

Re getting him in a year -- in a year, a more compelling situation may well present itself to him. Chelsea have been sniffing around, as have Liverpool, as have Everton. This is a young lad who has the talent to be starting for a top-6 club in the near-term, and there is value in certainty when it comes to acquiring this sort of talent, locking him into a 5-year deal, and either having him be a rock in our defense, or flipping him for a healthy profit after a couple seasons to the Man. U's of contemporary existence. 

 

I'll also point out that the acquisition would serve to hasten the demise of the Ashley-Benitez partnership. Not that we'd be happy to see that end, we're unanimously delighted with Claude. 

I didn't say he wasnt  on the same level I said that he is not better than Evans or maguire if I had to pick 2 out of the 3 I'd have Evans and maguire. 

 

That's the difference. 

 

But if we were to sell Maguire then the next best thing would be lascelles. No doubt 

 

[elvisfmcfly]

9 minutes ago, FirePower said:

I didn't say he wasnt  on the same level I said that he is not better than Evans or maguire if I had to pick 2 out of the 3 I'd have Evans and maguire. 

 

That's the difference. 

 

But if we were to sell Maguire then the next best thing would be lascelles. No doubt 

 

I think you’re being biased there,surely it would be Maguire and lascelles. 

[vanity]

23 minutes ago, FirePower said:

I didn't say he wasnt  on the same level I said that he is not better than Evans or maguire if I had to pick 2 out of the 3 I'd have Evans and maguire. 

 

That's the difference. 

 

But if we were to sell Maguire then the next best thing would be lascelles. No doubt 

 

I will have to see more of Evans to be convinced of that, but perhaps you are talking about picking 2 of the 3 to start this season. I think Lascelles is better, but if we say Evans has the edge now, if we sign Las to a 4 or 5 year deal, it would probably quickly come to pass that Maguire and Lasc would be the choice. But let's not quibble about make-believe, and agree that would be a terrific selection "problem" to have. Certainly Evans has another 2-3 seasons in which he will be a force, and he may well wind up the backbone of our defense if Maguire leaves. Which I seriously doubt happens, though as I said, if we got a godfather offer from Man U., FFS, I rate Harry but the hysteria after his WC performance is madness. He's a very nice CB, but I'll be astonished if anyone rates him as a top-5 Prem CB at season's end. Great to sell if Man U wants to be a prisoner of the moment and offer 60+... even 50. 

[splinterdream]

What's strange about the Maguire frenzy is I don't remember his WC performance due to his World class interceptions due to his defensive positioning, but rather his running the ball forward into the box like you do in fifa when you have it set to easy. Infact when it came to his defensive duties, he made quite a few major errors so why would utd want a player such as Maguire? He benefits us more than them.

[MPH]

I’m not saying he wouldn’t be An adequate replacement for Maguire, but if he is really as good as him, why is Maguire an England  regular and Lascelles not? Has he even had an England cap yet?

[tomtom]

10 hours ago, Big_Nige said:

 

Just interested on what basis? Comparing last season to their summer business? 

 

Theyve re-signed two loanee’s and Ki from Swansea unless I’ve missed something that happened today. 

 

Maybe he's judging it on their form from the 2nd half of last season to ours? and the fact they have a very good manager who despite little financial backing is improving their team 

[tomtom]

4 hours ago, MPH said:

I’m not saying he wouldn’t be An adequate replacement for Maguire, but if he is really as good as him, why is Maguire an England  regular and Lascelles not? Has he even had an England cap yet?

How many of our players in the past have missed out on the England squad despite us fans thinking they're clearly good enough!!

 

Lascelles is a quality player , I'd be delighted if we somehow managed to sign him! 

[MPH]

4 hours ago, tomtom said:

How many of our players in the past have missed out on the England squad despite us fans thinking they're clearly good enough!!

 

Lascelles is a quality player , I'd be delighted if we somehow managed to sign him! 

 

 

I never said he id he wasn’t quality I simply said he’s not as good as Maguire.

[Realist Guy In The Room]

Fantastic defender but would want him in addition to Maguire not as a replacement.

[LCCFox96]

2 hours ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Fantastic defender but would want him in addition to Maguire not as a replacement.

 

This in a nutshell. Likelihood is that it won't be possible but signings like Lascelles are ones that, in theory, should propel us upwards and make the like of Maguire more inclined to stay here. Lascelles would be an excellent addition.