Koke Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 15/16 - lost to Spurs after a replay (FA Cup). Lost to Hull in League Cup. 16/17- Milwall in FA Cup. And League Cup? All ties weakened sides were put out by Ranieri I somehow don't remember how we did in the cups under Pearson?
Corky Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 In 2013 we lost to Huddersfield and he was slaughtered. We lost to Shrewsbury and Burton in the League Cups. And the awful defeat at Villa in the FA Cup in 2015. We reached a couple of quarter-finals but his record was nothing special, really. Similar to now.
FireFox Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 Irrelevant. We were not a mid-table, top-flight club under Pearson.
Fox85 Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 The only thing Pearson was good for was man management and he made the players fight from the 1st minute to the very last. I wish we had that leicester back Tactics were dodgy thou.
ealingfox Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 Got League Cup and FA Cup quarters whilst in the Championship so Puels not managed to better him yet.
Langston Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 2 minutes ago, Koke said: 15/16 - lost to Spurs after a replay (FA Cup). Lost to Hull in League Cup. 16/17- Milwall in FA Cup. And League Cup? All ties weakened sides were put out by Ranieri I somehow don't remember how we did in the cups under Pearson? We reached the league cup quarters in 13/14 but the rest were very forgettable. Beat by Burton at home in the League Cup in 12/13 off the top of my head, think we lost to Huddersfield in the FA Cup the same year, which in turn was the start of that hideous run.
shailen Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 Did we not get knocked out by Chelsea. Remember Ben Marshall scoring a worldie
Corky Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 9 minutes ago, shailen said: Did we not get knocked out by Chelsea. Remember Ben Marshall scoring a worldie We did, in 2012. It was in a season where we little consistency in the league and the manager was under pressure. How times change.
KrefelderFox666 Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 33 minutes ago, FireFox said: Irrelevant. We were not a mid-table, top-flight club under Pearson. So Ranieri losing to Millwall was the worst ever? Premier League champions and we got embarrassed?
Heathrow fox Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 That league cup run of 13/14 did us the world of good.We were doing well in a three horse race.Man City totally outclassed us in the quarters though, but after that we went up a gear.I don’t think we lost again in the league for weeks.
Sir Shep Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 Pearson out then! What happened to Urbans thread?
Corky Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 3 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said: That league cup run of 13/14 did us the world of good.We were doing well in a three horse race.Man City totally outclassed us in the quarters though, but after that we went up a gear.I don’t think we lost again in the league for weeks. And yet after that game I heard someone say they were annoyed he'd played a weakened team for that match ahead of a the next league game! Just goes to show that managers will come in for criticism however well they are doing.
Tuna Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 37 minutes ago, shailen said: Did we not get knocked out by Chelsea. Remember Ben Marshall scoring a worldie A match famous for Torres scoring his first goal for Chelsea in about his 194th game for them.
Guest foxestalkisfullofidiots Posted 6 January 2019 Posted 6 January 2019 At the time the League was the priority, but under Puel we have gone out in 3 QFs (in both cups) and the 3rd round to a L2 side, all 4 games we feel as though we should of done better.
KrefelderFox666 Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 10 hours ago, foxestalkisfullofidiots said: At the time the League was the priority, but under Puel we have gone out in 3 QFs (in both cups) and the 3rd round to a L2 side, all 4 games we feel as though we should of done better. How do you know the league isn't the priority now? The owners may want as high a finish as possible before any cup success. Extra money and I guess hope to qualify for Europe (more money).
Dan Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 14 hours ago, FireFox said: Irrelevant. We were not a mid-table, top-flight club under Pearson. This is basically the sole reason it's pointless comparing the two situations. Pearson's cup record wasn't exactly impressive but we weren't operating on anything like the financial level then that we are now and obviously with this, the expectations were fewer.
ClaphamFox Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 8 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: This is basically the sole reason it's pointless comparing the two situations. Pearson's cup record wasn't exactly impressive but we weren't operating on anything like the financial level then that we are now and obviously with this, the expectations were fewer. Yes, the situations are different but it is not 'pointless' comparing them. The various managers we have had while the Thais have been in charge have pretty consistently played weakened teams in the Cup. It seems to happen every year. If the owners wanted us to have played stronger teams in the Cups, they would have communicated that to the managers. Cups are clearly not a priority for the club.
Dan Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 3 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Yes, the situations are different but it is not 'pointless' comparing them. The various managers we have had while the Thais have been in charge have pretty consistently played weakened teams in the Cup. It seems to happen every year. If the owners wanted us to have played stronger teams in the Cups, they would have communicated that to the managers. Cups are clearly not a priority for the club. I sadly agree with that. Nothing out of the ordinary with football nowadays. As good as they've been the fans should not let that go under the radar. It's not good enough.
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 2 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Yes, the situations are different but it is not 'pointless' comparing them. The various managers we have had while the Thais have been in charge have pretty consistently played weakened teams in the Cup. It seems to happen every year. If the owners wanted us to have played stronger teams in the Cups, they would have communicated that to the managers. Cups are clearly not a priority for the club. They wouldn't get involved at that level. They employ people to decide that. Flying 7,000 miles to a game I'm guessing they want to be entertained and see us win every game
AKCJ Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 21 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: This is basically the sole reason it's pointless comparing the two situations. Pearson's cup record wasn't exactly impressive but we weren't operating on anything like the financial level then that we are now and obviously with this, the expectations were fewer. The league was also a much bigger priority.
ClaphamFox Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 3 minutes ago, Bob Hazels shorts said: They wouldn't get involved at that level. They employ people to decide that. Flying 7,000 miles to a game I'm guessing they want to be entertained and see us win every game Not in the day-to-day team selections maybe, but if it was really important to them I think they might have said, "we take the cup seriously and want to compete in it".
Dan Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 1 hour ago, AKCJ said: The league was also a much bigger priority. It was, it wouldn't have excused losing at Newport but I could forgive us going out a bit more then. We've got absolutely no excuses what so ever for that yesterday.
Guest foxestalkisfullofidiots Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 4 hours ago, KrefelderFox666 said: How do you know the league isn't the priority now? The owners may want as high a finish as possible before any cup success. Extra money and I guess hope to qualify for Europe (more money). Well obviously it is because we have lost some good opportunity’s to progress at the expense of resting players for the league but I’d say under Pearson the fans would have probably understood resting players but at this moment in time I don’t think his selection for the cup games has won over any new fans. also look at Tottenham, they started Ali on Friday night away at Tranmere and bought Kane off the bench and they are going for Top 4 and champions league
KrefelderFox666 Posted 7 January 2019 Posted 7 January 2019 23 minutes ago, foxestalkisfullofidiots said: Well obviously it is because we have lost some good opportunity’s to progress at the expense of resting players for the league but I’d say under Pearson the fans would have probably understood resting players but at this moment in time I don’t think his selection for the cup games has won over any new fans. also look at Tottenham, they started Ali on Friday night away at Tranmere and bought Kane off the bench and they are going for Top 4 and champions league I feel like there is a blame at club level not just singling out Puel. Who knows why the cup teams are regularly experiments, not like Puel is going against what the club owners want. Tottenham have always played fairly strong teams in cup games but if you look throughout Premier League sides, the majority rest more than half of the "usual" starting XI. The Premier League has been killing the FA Cup slowly over the last few years. Good on Newport though, their dream is alive and it is what the FA Cup is all about. I agree though, fans would much rather see some success in the cup. We did just that last year and if it wasn't for a couple of mistakes against Chelsea, who knows where we would have ended up. In the early rounds we "rested" players and it worked out. There must be reasons why cup games are treated as experiments of team selections, why not do it in a few Prem games instead.
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