Guest Markyblue Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 4 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Land moves as does the water table. They might need to go deeper than the original build as well - larger capacity load. That certainly is a good point, as for the cat scan and utilities drawings trail holes would be dug to check the drawings are accurate.
sylofox Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 3 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said: You'd do that with a CAT scan and this information is more readily available from the service providers. I think it was ment as a joke.
Plastik Man Posted 22 July 2019 Posted 22 July 2019 4 hours ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: I know I’m probably going to sound so thick here but what do you mean by drilling outside the main entrance ? It was a bloke with a metal detector. I saw him on Western Park last week.
urban fox Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 If they are expanding from 32 to 40+K capacity then that's almost 25-30% increase. That is an hell of an extra loading, especially considering that the structure shakes already (when the KP rocks it does so literally). The expansion is an ideal opportunity to strengthen some of the existing structure. its not like sticking an extra bedroom on top of your garage. it is a major engineering and building project which will put a massive loading on the existing foundations, especially when you consider that the whole area is made up ground and beside the river. As rightly pointed out, this exploratory survey work is essential to establish what loadings the ground will take, the depth to which any piling for foundations will need to go and what buried services are present. I would not be surprised if they are not doing Ground Penetrating Radar surveys and all sorts. I think we will see a lot of this type of activity over the coming months.
FoyleFox Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 18 minutes ago, urban fox said: That is an hell of an extra loading, especially considering that the structure shakes already (when the KP rocks it does so literally). Ulloa Earthquake!!
urban fox Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 33 minutes ago, FoyleFox said: Ulloa Earthquake!! Yep. Although that did actually register on the Richter scale apparently ! I also seem to recall that, when the stadium was first built, they could not get a license for music events due to the fear that if everyone started dancing and jumping around at the same time there was a risk that it could set up some sort of vibration and resultant structural damage but they may have fixed that.
FoyleFox Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 I recall the music licence issue. If it wasn't resolved how did we get permission for the kasabian gig? If it was, I wonder went we've not had any others.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 3 minutes ago, FoyleFox said: I recall the music licence issue. If it wasn't resolved how did we get permission for the kasabian gig? If it was, I wonder went we've not had any others. At the Kasabian gigs the higher rows of the stadium were netted off, I assume this was connected to them not wanting the stadium falling down.
SystonFox Posted 23 July 2019 Posted 23 July 2019 I thought, and I could be mistaken, that we had some structural work done at some point in the last 10 years to reinforce certain structures holding the stadium. Did I dream this? Because wasn’t there an all day festival that status quo were headlining and it got pulled last minute when this came to light..... either that or ticket sales were poor and they needed an excuse but I can’t imagine our club at that time doing such a thing
H.a.r.r.y Posted 25 July 2019 Posted 25 July 2019 What will get done first, their whole new stadium or our expansion?
ThurmastonFox Posted 25 July 2019 Posted 25 July 2019 1 hour ago, H.a.r.r.y said: What will get done first, their whole new stadium or our expansion? Their extension
holyfox Posted 25 July 2019 Posted 25 July 2019 That’s looks amazing- really hope the scale and impact of our expansion is as iconic as some of those artist impressions that we’d seen on here.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 25 July 2019 Posted 25 July 2019 3 hours ago, H.a.r.r.y said: What will get done first, their whole new stadium or our expansion? Their whole new stadium probably i hope not but probably
UniFox21 Posted 25 July 2019 Posted 25 July 2019 It's a lovely ground design, but to be all doom and gloom, waters edge isn't the best idea. Given the climate battle we're facing and rising water levels, or even high rain fall, flooding the area out is probably not too far ahead
SpacedX Posted 25 July 2019 Posted 25 July 2019 2 hours ago, ThurmastonFox said: Their extension Everton in Liverpool, Liverpool in Everton. No changes there then.
yorkie1999 Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 6 hours ago, UniFox21 said: It's a lovely ground design, but to be all doom and gloom, waters edge isn't the best idea. Given the climate battle we're facing and rising water levels, or even high rain fall, flooding the area out is probably not too far ahead It’s not really waters edge though, I’ve been there and the water is about 8-10 metres lower down. It’ll be a long time before the seas rise that much.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 13 hours ago, H.a.r.r.y said: What will get done first, their whole new stadium or our expansion? Rail seating bosh.
sylofox Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 On 22/07/2019 at 12:16, Cardiff_Fox said: You'd do that with a CAT scan and this information is more readily available from the service providers. If they find one of these big CAT's they are scanning for will we be renamed The Tigers?
Christoph Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 4 hours ago, yorkie1999 said: It’s not really waters edge though, I’ve been there and the water is about 8-10 metres lower down. It’ll be a long time before the seas rise that much. True but i mean.... rivers can flood and being right next to one probably isn't the best idea. I assume it's probably cheaper for them to build there though which is why they've done it. However with the money they have they could probably tackle any potential flooding problem if it were to occur.
norwichfox Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 2 hours ago, Christoph said: True but i mean.... rivers can flood and being right next to one probably isn't the best idea. I assume it's probably cheaper for them to build there though which is why they've done it. However with the money they have they could probably tackle any potential flooding problem if it were to occur. I believe they are, with the help of Liverpool Football Club, planning to divert the Gulf Stream to avoid any such problems....
Christoph Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 1 minute ago, norwichfox said: I believe they are, with the help of Liverpool Football Club, planning to divert the Gulf Stream to avoid any such problems.... Isn't out of the realm of possibility to build flood barriers around the area if they had to, albeit at a high cost.
sylofox Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 1 hour ago, norwichfox said: I believe they are, with the help of Liverpool Football Club, planning to divert the Gulf Stream to avoid any such problems.... Pi55 taker 1 hour ago, Christoph said: Isn't out of the realm of possibility to build flood barriers around the area if they had to, albeit at a high cost. If the water tables up ie flooding the pitch wont drain so will be un playable.
Christoph Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 3 minutes ago, sylofox said: If the water tables up ie flooding the pitch wont drain so will be un playable. I'm talking about permanent structures. Flood walls etc. 1/3 of the Netherlands is under sea level. So i'm sure if it came to it, they could find something in place to protect the area. You would imagine that they probably thought about potential flooding risks when they purchased the site.
norwichfox Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 1 hour ago, sylofox said: Pi55 taker Moi?... p.s. Sorry I didn't recognise you in GY yesterday...must've been the heat (or your abject failure in not wearing a City Shirt). Quote If the water tables up ie flooding the pitch wont drain so will be un playable. 58 minutes ago, Christoph said: I'm talking about permanent structures. Flood walls etc. 1/3 of the Netherlands is under sea level. So i'm sure if it came to it, they could find something in place to protect the area. You would imagine that they probably thought about potential flooding risks when they purchased the site. Maybe dig a deep hole to lower the water table?...
yorkie1999 Posted 26 July 2019 Posted 26 July 2019 17 minutes ago, norwichfox said: Moi?... p.s. Sorry I didn't recognise you in GY yesterday...must've been the heat (or your abject failure in not wearing a City Shirt). Maybe dig a deep hole to lower the water table?... A shit hole
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