Callum McGregor - back on ?

[Guest SO1]

27 minutes ago, Haywood_6 said:

I'd personally love to see him here. 

If Rodgers thinks he's good enough then that works for me. Less than a month left in the window. We'll see

[Muzzy_Larsson]

38 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

Look Pal coming on the LCFC forum and calling some FT Members something from the 'gutter' (because they think the standard of the SPL is not great), is not really on in my opinion.  The post you quoted actually said it was the 'league' that was League 1 standard, not frigging Celtic.  May be reel your neck in a bit as people on here are entitled to their opinions, as indeed are you.   

People can voice their opinions without being ignorant and condascending though, just because I'm not a Leicester fan first and foremost doesn't mean I should be subject to that.

 

The standard of the SPFL isn't great, I'm not disagreeing with that, it's the hyperbole, exagerration, inaccuracy and arrogance around it I took exception to.

 

Most seem to be in agreement with what I've said anyway.

Edited 12 July 2019 by henrik_62

[RumbleFox]

We're building a mother chuffing awesome squad. X 

[mozartfox]

4 minutes ago, henrik_62 said:

People can voice their opinions without being ignorant and condascending though, just because I'm not a Leicester fan first and foremost doesn't mean I should be subject to that.

 

The standard of the SPFL isn't great, I'm not disagreeing with that, it's the hyperbole, exagerration, inaccuracy and arrogance around it I took exception to.

 

Most seem to be in agreement with what I've said anyway.

For the record, James Fowler (who I assume you know?) has a view: 

 

The standard of football in the Scottish Premiership is akin to that in England's League One, according to Sunderland assistant James Fowler.

 

The former Kilmarnock midfielder played in the Scottish top flight for 17 years and was number two to Jack Ross at St Mirren in the Championship last term. He is now Ross' deputy at the Stadium of Light in England's third tier.

"From what we've seen so far, I'd say League One is similar to the top league in Scotland," Fowler told BBC Sport.

[Dahnsouff]

8 minutes ago, henrik_62 said:

People can voice their opinions without being ignorant and condascending though, just because I'm not a Leicester fan first and foremost doesn't mean I should be subject to that.

 

The standard of the SPFL isn't great, I'm not disagreeing with that, it's the hyperbole, exagerration, inaccuracy and arrogance around it I took exception to.

 

Most seem to be in agreement with what I've said anyway.

Don`t listen to naysayers, those trying to belittle or get a rise out of you. You are a very welcome visitor 

 

Seems some want this forum to become as "renowned" as Red Cafe....

[Muzzy_Larsson]

Just now, mozartfox said:

For the record, James Fowler (who I assume you know?) has a view: 

 

The standard of football in the Scottish Premiership is akin to that in England's League One, according to Sunderland assistant James Fowler.

 

 

 

The former Kilmarnock midfielder played in the Scottish top flight for 17 years and was number two to Jack Ross at St Mirren in the Championship last term. He is now Ross' deputy at the Stadium of Light in England's third tier.

 

"From what we've seen so far, I'd say League One is similar to the top league in Scotland," Fowler told BBC Sport.

 

Your hardly proving the point by pasting in a single article from one player.  I could paste countless articles from players who have played in Scotland who would say the opposite as below. 

Neither really proves or disproves the point does it?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40469729

 

I think your missing the bones of my overall point once again, everyone has their opinion and is entitled to air that, it's a forum after all and that's what it's about, it's more the arrogant and condascending way of airing that opinion.  Not to mention the hypocrisy given on the Maguire thread the uproar at Man Utd fans sneering down their nose at Leicester in exactly the same way some on here do at every opportunity RE: Scotland and the SPFL.

[Muzzy_Larsson]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Don`t listen to naysayers, those trying to belittle or get a rise out of you. You are a very welcome visitor 

 

Seems some want this forum to become as "renowned" as Red Cafe....

Thanks buddy.

[deep blue]

28 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Don`t listen to naysayers, those trying to belittle or get a rise out of you. You are a very welcome visitor 

 

Seems some want this forum to become as "renowned" as Red Cafe....

Agree.  Please stay on the forum.  You're a welcome addition.  Some on here aren't happy unless they're gratuously insulting other contributors.

[gw_leics772]

Just checking, nothing happening here ?? as you were chaps.

 

Ps i like the scots who have joined. Their opinions when they differ from mine are more interesting than leicester fans who are obviously just wrong if they dont agree with me ?

[mozartfox]

1 hour ago, henrik_62 said:

Your hardly proving the point by pasting in a single article from one player.  I could paste countless articles from players who have played in Scotland who would say the opposite as below. 

Neither really proves or disproves the point does it?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40469729

 

I think your missing the bones of my overall point once again, everyone has their opinion and is entitled to air that, it's a forum after all and that's what it's about, it's more the arrogant and condascending way of airing that opinion.  Not to mention the hypocrisy given on the Maguire thread the uproar at Man Utd fans sneering down their nose at Leicester in exactly the same way some on here do at every opportunity RE: Scotland and the SPFL.

I really think you are the one missing the point.  'Some' people on here (including myself) happen to think that the SPL is not a high standard of football compared with the major leagues around Europe and English Divisions below the EPL. This is not a condescending statement it is what some people think.  You may not agree with this opinion and that is fair enough.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Lambert09]

1 hour ago, henrik_62 said:

Your hardly proving the point by pasting in a single article from one player.  I could paste countless articles from players who have played in Scotland who would say the opposite as below. 

Neither really proves or disproves the point does it?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40469729

 

I think your missing the bones of my overall point once again, everyone has their opinion and is entitled to air that, it's a forum after all and that's what it's about, it's more the arrogant and condascending way of airing that opinion.  Not to mention the hypocrisy given on the Maguire thread the uproar at Man Utd fans sneering down their nose at Leicester in exactly the same way some on here do at every opportunity RE: Scotland and the SPFL.

I dont think its a knock to you, you cant help who youre up against, but the players coming across tend to be at a lower standard except for the occasional gems. 

 

I  am curious though, with your current squad, a near famous 10 in a row squad... where do you realistically think your squad would rank in the premier league ? Not being disrespectful, just an honest opinion but I do think it would be in the relegation pile (This is due to the serious money in the premier league, obviously with your profile and premier league football you would build a much stronger team) 

[WigstonWanderer]

6 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I dont think its a knock to you, you cant help who youre up against, but the players coming across tend to be at a lower standard except for the occasional gems. 

 

I  am curious though, with your current squad, a near famous 10 in a row squad... where do you realistically think your squad would rank in the premier league ? Not being disrespectful, just an honest opinion but I do think it would be in the relegation pile (This is due to the serious money in the premier league, obviously with your profile and premier league football you would build a much stronger team) 

If Celtic were in the PL they’d be getting PL dosh, so would be able to strengthen. With their huge home following they’d stand a good chance of becoming a significant force. 

[Muzzy_Larsson]

 

39 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

I dont think its a knock to you, you cant help who youre up against, but the players coming across tend to be at a lower standard except for the occasional gems. 

 

I  am curious though, with your current squad, a near famous 10 in a row squad... where do you realistically think your squad would rank in the premier league ? Not being disrespectful, just an honest opinion but I do think it would be in the relegation pile (This is due to the serious money in the premier league, obviously with your profile and premier league football you would build a much stronger team) 

I get that, as I said in previous posts, I can accept the SPFL is a poor standard overall, I'm not disputing that, it's more the arrogance and the hypocrisy of some posts, most probably from people who haven't watched two minutes of it, saying the very same things they get enraged about when Man Utd fans say similar about Leicester.  Anyway, think we've laboured that enough.

 

With our current squad I'd say we'd be fighting relegation tbh, with decent luck with injuries I reckon we could stay up though.  With our squad of 18 months ago, including Dembele in particular and all our other top players at the top of their form I think we'd have probably done what Burnley or Newcastle done last year, around 15th-13th.  If we were in the EPL and got access to those vast riches though I reckon we'd comfortably be able to build a team that would finish mid table in the first year or two though.

Edited 12 July 2019 by henrik_62

[notnow john]

2 hours ago, henrik_62 said:

We done alright for a league 1 level club avoiding defeat against the best the EPL had to offer in Pep's Man City a couple of years ago, when they failed to beat us home and away, odd why we never got pasted like Burton Albion did last season if we're on a similar level.

 

We're of course nowhere near the level of a side who could compete at the top end of the EPL and most Celtic fans are fine with that, that's just the way it is but anyone who thinks we are league 1 level clearly has never bothered watching us, nor pays attention to how we have done in Europe.  Ill informed ignorance.

 

Football snobbery is one of the worst things going, there is a thread on here hundreds of pages long pretty much deriding Man Utd and their fans arrogance towards Leicester but in the same vein you have the gutter element on here making snidy, ill informed, unsubstantiated digs at the Scottish league whenever possible.

 

99% of the time there is always a team higher up in the food chain than you in football that's the way it is, some people are great at looking down and being arrogant but can't accept the same when looking up.

 

I realise there was an economic reason for some clubs to have plastic pitches but in the long 

run its detrimental to the S.P.L as it damages its credibility.

The players don't like them either,are there any plans to revert back to traditional pitches.

[RumbleFox]

As a Leicester fan living in Glasgow I must admit to cringing at most of the comments on here. Lots of disrespectful stuff almost daily. However, I also have to state that I feel the current Celtic squad would battle against relegation in the EPL and I doubt it would win the championship. Of course, given time, Celtic would become a very good team down here given their size, history and infrastructure but on current squads they'd struggle. With regards to the rest of the SPL I think they probably are around League One level.  As I've said, I hate a lot of the patronising shite on here but I feel the standard of the league up here is currently at a low. 

 

What that doesnt mean though is that the football is boring or objectively any less valid, the arrogance from down south makes me realise why they hate the England football team up here. X 

Edited 12 July 2019 by RumbleFox

[Muzzy_Larsson]

3 minutes ago, notnow john said:

I realise there was an economic reason for some clubs to have plastic pitches but in the long 

run its detrimental to the S.P.L as it damages its credibility.

The players don't like them either,are there any plans to revert back to traditional pitches.

Agree entirely, those pitches are an embarrassment and I've yet to watch one decent game of football being played on them.  Like you say it really damages the credibility of the league further and I don't buy into the economic aspect of it as there are semi-pro sides up here who can maintain a decent grass pitch all year round.

 

I don't know of any formal plans as yet but I hope with all the bad publicity the clubs that have them's hands are forced or they get relegated.

Edited 12 July 2019 by henrik_62

[Muzzy_Larsson]

5 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

As a Leicester fan living in Glasgow I must admit to cringing at most of the comments on here. Lots of disrespectful stuff almost daily. However, I also have to state that I feel the current Celtic squad would battle against relegation in the EPL and I doubt it would win the championship. Of course, given time, Celtic would become a very good team down here given their size, history and infrastructure but on current squads they'd struggle. With regards to the rest of the SPL I think they probably are around League One level.  As I've said, I hate a lot of the patronising shite on here but I feel the standard of the league up here is currently at a low. 

 

What that doesnt mean though is that the football is boring, the arrogance from down south makes me realise why they hate the England football team up here. X 

Nail on the head this post.

 

I'd disagree slightly with the rest of the SPFL bit though, maybe the bottom 3-4 teams are league one level but clubs like Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs would probably survive as mediocre championship clubs, Aberdeen for example gave Burnley a fright in the Europa League and Hibs have sold a few players that have done well in the championship in recent years, McGinn the obvious example, if anything McGinn looks a far better player this season when I've watched him than he did with Hibs.

Edited 12 July 2019 by henrik_62

[hackneyfox]

3 hours ago, mozartfox said:

Look Pal coming on the LCFC forum and calling some FT Members something from the 'gutter' (because they think the standard of the SPL is not great), is not really on in my opinion.  The post you quoted actually said it was the 'league' that was League 1 standard, not frigging Celtic.  May be reel your neck in a bit as people on here are entitled to their opinions, as indeed are you.   

Stop being a cock, your slating of Scottish football is becoming personal.

2 hours ago, henrik_62 said:

People can voice their opinions without being ignorant and condascending though, just because I'm not a Leicester fan first and foremost doesn't mean I should be subject to that.

 

The standard of the SPFL isn't great, I'm not disagreeing with that, it's the hyperbole, exagerration, inaccuracy and arrogance around it I took exception to.

 

Most seem to be in agreement with what I've said anyway.

There’s an ignore button if he gets too much.

[mozartfox]

Just now, hackneyfox said:

Stop being a cock, your slating of Scottish football is becoming personal.

There’s an ignore button if he gets too much.

I will not bother to respond your abusive insult.  Personal WTF? Thanks for tip about the ignore button.

[hackneyfox]

11 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

I will not bother to respond your abusive insult.  Personal WTF? Thanks for tip about the ignore button.

You just responded.

[mozartfox]

1 minute ago, hackneyfox said:

You just responded.

Not to your insult I didn't.  Accusations of getting personal and insulting them in the same sentence is just surreal.  Good night. Definitely no more responses to you.

[hackneyfox]

You dropped your handbag as you flounced off. 

[Spudulike]

The standard of the SPFL can only be expressed as opinion. It hasn't been (and can't be) tested.

 

Much like the circular big club, small club debate that won't be factual until someone comes up with a formular. 

 

For what it's worth, for me, I really don't care if I'm watching the best or worst league as it doesn't take the highest standard of football to make an entertaining match. See the thread about our days in League One.

[Bluetintedspecs]

Imo,as Henrik states,  the standard is lower, however, the pub league/ league 1 jibes are purely that. Let's face it the England/Scotland rivalry does lend itself to that banter  

[murphy]

2 hours ago, Spudulike said:

The standard of the SPFL can only be expressed as opinion. It hasn't been (and can't be) tested.

 

Much like the circular big club, small club debate that won't be factual until someone comes up with a formular. 

 

For what it's worth, for me, I really don't care if I'm watching the best or worst league as it doesn't take the highest standard of football to make an entertaining match. See the thread about our days in League One.

This is very true and League One was not so long ago.

 

At the moment we have the best squad and future that we've had in my 40 years of being a supporter.  You could say that we are on the up, but I have to say that I really, really hate it when Leicester fans forget about history and who we are and act like big shots.  Particularly this belittling of the Scottish Leagues and Celtic, just because for the first time in 100 years we are better off and a bigger draw than Celtic are and only because of TV money.  Also, a certain poster on here really needs to get out more and drop this silly little vendetta.

 

As for the standard of their league?  I dunno.  Who cares?

 

We should remember how quickly things can change, just because we are on the up now, doesn't mean it will always be like this.  Football is cyclical.  The rollercoaster goes down as well as up.