FT General Election Poll 2019

[LiberalFox]

The SNP are just as bad. Feels like elements of the left really are some of the nastiest people around. (Both Labour & SNP have many decent people in their parties and voting for them too).

[UpTheLeagueFox]

Love this reaction from the Brexit Party candidate when Corbyn said Labour "didn't descend into the gutter" during the Election campaign 

 

 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

This nails it. Ten magic minutes.

 

 

[leicsmac]

8 hours ago, Kendal Fox said:

But you can certainly feel a sense of belonging with those from your area, without being carbon copies of one another. 

 

For me, the Left is being used or (misused). And I honestly think, if you get rid of all the labels that they constantly create, (some of which you've listed), this current incarnation of Labour is coercing people more and more into being unspontaneous, extremely predictable and actually very un-indiviudal, which I find highly ironic.

People should be able to agree to disagree when necessary and cherish the fact that there are differences and the healthiness of the dynamics that go with that. That is more enriching to me instead of being intimidated into agreeing for fear of being demonised disproportionately and ostracised. Or having to adopt the "If you can't beat em, join em" approach, even though many, deep down probably realise they feel hollow having to do that. 

 

I mean, (as a parallel to the identity thing) why do we support Leicester City? Isn't that an example (probably not the only one) of where we come together? Maybe a cheesy example, but surely more than a grain of truth in it.

...how? And why?

 

If you have vastly differing worldviews (not just a little different), then how and why does this feeling of shared identity become obtainable? I'm honestly curious.

[Leicester_Loyal]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/VcuoEVcsLcs/

 

This sums it up for me! Even on here these terms were thrown around at anyone that voted Leave or Conservative. 

 

EDIT: UpTheLeagueFox has already posted the video. 

[Gordon the Great]

On 14/12/2019 at 17:02, Sampson said:

The thing is, she's probably cost herself a job in the NHS with that.

 

The video will follow her around, no public sector and many private sector employers will touch her after that.

Hope so.

[Strokes]

Come on @urban.spaceman, this is your job.
 

[urban.spaceman]

1 hour ago, Strokes said:

Come on @urban.spaceman, this is your job.

The lack of self awareness in these twats is so adorable. 

[Guest MattP]

9 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

This nails it. Ten magic minutes.

 

 

Every Labour MP and activist should be forced to watch that.

[Guest MattP]

I think Goodwin is the best pundit in politics next, calls everything right.

 

 

[Lionator]

There’s a guardian opinion piece today stating that Labour are more bothered about taking the moral high ground than appealing to the electorate and I think that might be very true. 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, Lionator said:

There’s a guardian opinion piece today stating that Labour are more bothered about taking the moral high ground than appealing to the electorate and I think that might be very true. 

Yeah.  A moral compass is something folks should have, but moral choices at the individual level don't really mean much without the power to apply them. That means winning votes, which means appealing to the electorate.

[urban.spaceman]

11 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

This nails it. Ten magic minutes.

 

 

The saddest thing is these cvnts are supposed to be on the same side as me. As far as I’m concerned they’ve ****ed everything up for all of us. 

[Kendal Fox]

15 hours ago, LiberalFox said:

The SNP are just as bad. Feels like elements of the left really are some of the nastiest people around. (Both Labour & SNP have many decent people in their parties and voting for them too).

I know. What gets me is the behaviour of many of the MPs as well as the members and supporters. Like they can literally act like a child and then take the moral high ground in the blink of an eye, because they're so full of their own crap, they don't see (or care) how they come across or how they're adding to the poison in the left.

 

Diane Abbott comes to mind, the way she celebrated with a fist pump and  shouting "Yes!!! Get in!!!" When she found out Swinson had lost her seat. Just ridiculous. A supposed senior MP acting in such a stupid, immature way. No wonder so many of her followers don't feel the need to look at themselves in the mirror when she behaves like that.

 

It's as if you can be an arsehole, but just circumvent that by saying the word "Left" beforehand. It's just so thick.

[Carl the Llama]

8 minutes ago, Kendal Fox said:

I know. What gets me is the behaviour of many of the MPs as well as the members and supporters. Like they can literally act like a child and then take the moral high ground in the blink of an eye, because they're so full of their own crap, they don't see (or care) how they come across or how they're adding to the poison in the left.

 

Diane Abbott comes to mind, the way she celebrated with a fist pump and  shouting "Yes!!! Get in!!!" When she found out Swinson had lost her seat. Just ridiculous. A supposed senior MP acting in such a stupid, immature way. No wonder so many of her followers don't feel the need to look at themselves in the mirror when she behaves like that.

 

It's as if you can be an arsehole, but just circumvent that by saying the word "Left" beforehand. It's just so thick.

Tbf I've never heard of a left arsehole but we all know a right one.  Coincidence?

[Kendal Fox]

10 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

Tbf I've never heard of a left arsehole but we all know a right one.  Coincidence?

Well, if you can't see the thrust of what I'm getting at then let's just agree to disagree. 

[Carl the Llama]

1 minute ago, Kendal Fox said:

Well, if you can't see the thrust of what I'm getting at then let's just agree to disagree. 

I'm very sorry, it was wrong of me to think that a joke was a good idea in these sombre times.

[Kendal Fox]

14 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

This nails it. Ten magic minutes.

 

 

So obvious the chick at 1:48 absolutely hates the working class. Unbelievable, the level of disingenuousness.

[Kendal Fox]

Just now, Carl the Llama said:

I'm very sorry, it was wrong of me to think that a joke was a good idea in these sombre times.

I got that you were joking, but it seemed at the expense of what I was needling at is all. 

[Carl the Llama]

Just now, Kendal Fox said:

I got that you were joking, but it seemed at the expense of what I was needling at is all. 

It was a pun.

[twoleftfeet]

1 minute ago, Kendal Fox said:

So obvious the chick at 1:48 absolutely hates the working class. Unbelievable, the level of disingenuousness.

I think it she shows what is wrong with the new wave of labour supporters they feel that they know what is best for the working class and why wouldn't they what would the great unwashed know "I plan to go to uni don't you know". 

[Kendal Fox]

12 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said:

It was a pun.

But you could still have made it/Boris metaphor whilst engaging with what went before it is all.

[leicsmac]

... is anti-intellectualism a thing in the UK as well as a lot of the US now, then?

 

Actually, no need for answers there, it's been the case for a while, I think. It's just unfortunate that the scientific experts who know what they're doing are getting caught in the crossfire because some students happen to be a bit vocal, really.

[Kendal Fox]

12 minutes ago, twoleftfeet said:

I think it she shows what is wrong with the new wave of labour supporters they feel that they know what is best for the working class and why wouldn't they what would the great unwashed know "I plan to go to uni don't you know". 

Yes. It's the arrogance and the way they underestimated so many working class/lower middle voters.

 

If you say to someone that if they vote differently to you, they're a bad person and you will demonise them, you are coercing them into doing what you want. That is NOT left wing! They just didn't realise that the majority of people were smarter than they thought and had enough self respect not to be bullied. That said. the Labour party really needs to be magnanimous now and sincerely look at how and why they alienated so many.

[Guest MattP]

19 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

... is anti-intellectualism a thing in the UK as well as a lot of the US now, then?

 

Actually, no need for answers there, it's been the case for a while, I think. It's just unfortunate that the scientific experts who know what they're doing are getting caught in the crossfire because some students happen to be a bit vocal, really.

It's the snobbish holier than thou attitude that seems to accompany it now, the whole "we know everything and we know it better than you".

 

The when you go against them it's the torrent of insults that come your way after it. Don't agree us on this? Racist. Don't agree with me on this? Sexist. 

 

I don't think a lot of these people have any idea just how vile they are to the rest of the population.