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FT General Election Poll 2019

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FT General Election 2019  

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  1. 1. Which party will be getting your vote?

    • Conservative
      155
    • Labour
      188
    • Liberal Democrats
      93
    • Brexit Party
      17
    • Green Party
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    • Other
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2 hours ago, Facecloth said:

Isn't it hilarious that guys wearing blackface pretending to be Diane Abbot

 

In the same breath.

 

Its deplorable that Justin Trudeau would wear blackface.

If the guy at the darts runs around pretending to be woke and criticising everyone else with his isms then he is as bad as Trudeau.

 

That's the part you've missed from your analysis and that's why people had a go at the Canadian PM.

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2 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:

All well and good for a couple of high-ranked recognisable members of those groups, how are you going to spot loose affliates or the footsoldiers entering? Neither side could screen Holocaust deniers and racists for seat candidates ffs.

 

With how you've criticised other side I think you need to hold your hand up here mate.

The problem with the other side is you allowed them to stay, holocaust deniers were given written warnings.

 

If the Tories have people with proven links to the far-right joining and allow them to stay they'll get exactly the same criticism as Labour got and rightly so.

 

It's not about "spotting" - if someone sneaks in so be it, it's when you've found them and still refuse to expel them that was the problem for Corbyn and his mob, not that they snuck in.

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1 minute ago, MattP said:

The problem with the other side is you allowed them to stay, holocaust deniers were given written warnings.

 

If the Tories have people with proven links to the far-right joining and allow them to stay they'll get exactly the same criticism as Labour got and rightly so.

 

It's not about "spotting" - if someone sneaks in so be it, it's when you've found them and still refuse to expel them that was the problem for Corbyn and his mob, not that they snuck in.

 

How do you find them? 'Letterboxes', 'picaninnies', 'watermelon smiles'? These are all things the PM endorsed, he said himself during the election run-up 'EU nationals shouldn't feel like this is part of their home', making foreigners not feel welcome is what the PM has endorsed.

 

You could almost argue that's institutional, couldn't you?

 

I'll give the Tories a period of grace but I hold very little hope considering these people have been galvanised by the prime Minister himself.

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2 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:

How do you find them? 'Letterboxes', 'picaninnies', 'watermelon smiles'? These are all things the PM endorsed, he said himself during the election run-up 'EU nationals shouldn't feel like this is part of their home', making foreigners not feel welcome is what the PM has endorsed.

 

You could almost argue that's institutional, couldn't you?

 

I'll give the Tories a period of grace but I hold very little hope considering these people have been galvanised by the prime Minister himself.

Endorsed? Sorry but that's just complete nonsense - he wrote articles and used creative language for satirical purposes. The public understood that as well even if those with a blind hatred for him didn't. 

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7 minutes ago, MattP said:

Endorsed? Sorry but that's just complete nonsense - he wrote articles and used creative language for satirical purposes. The public understood that as well even if those with a blind hatred for him didn't. 

 

The people who 'understood' him just ordered their members to join the Party and back him, because:

 

Paul Golding – who has received a welcome email from the Tories following his application – told the PA news agency he liked the “cut of the cloth” of the Prime Minister after he described Muslim women who wear the all-covering burqa as looking like “letterboxes”.

 

You sound like a Corbyn apologist.

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4 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:

The people who 'understood' him just ordered their members to join the Party and back him, because:

 

Paul Golding – who has received a welcome email from the Tories following his application – told the PA news agency he liked the “cut of the cloth” of the Prime Minister after he described Muslim women who wear the all-covering burqa as looking like “letterboxes”.

 

You sound like a Corbyn apologist.

Nope. A Corbyn apologist would make excuses for him, say it's to do with something like ISIS and then look the other way. Just like they did with everyone from Jackie Walker to Chris Williamson.

 

I'm saying kick him out immediately -  and he will be kicked out immediately.

 

That's the difference.

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Nope. A Corbyn apologist would make excuses for him, say it's to do with something like ISIS and then look the other way. Just like they did with everyone from Jackie Walker to Chris Williamson.

 

I'm saying kick him out immediately -  and he will be kicked out immediately.

 

That's the difference.

 

'He' will be kicked out, the vast majority of infiltrators likely won't. 

 

The infiltrators that have joined the Party on the back of Boris' rhetoric.

 

Trying to word it differently doesn't change that fact.

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3 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:

'He' will be kicked out, the vast majority of infiltrators likely won't. 

 

The infiltrators that have joined the Party on the back of Boris' rhetoric.

 

Trying to word it differently doesn't change that fact.

Providing the Tories kick out the racists when they find them, rather than Labour who hid and in some cases backed them - the situations are completely different.

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3 minutes ago, MattP said:

Providing the Tories kick out the racists when they find them, rather than Labour who hid and in some cases backed them - the situations are completely different.

 

Again, under what Boris has said about ensuring European nationals don't feel at home, I doubt they'll be able to detect many unless they go full firebrand, like I said they couldn't screen a Holocaust denier until the media fully outed them so I have no hope for them to catch a dormant Far-Right element until its far too late.

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1 hour ago, MattP said:

If the guy at the darts runs around pretending to be woke and criticising everyone else with his isms then he is as bad as Trudeau.

 

That's the part you've missed from your analysis and that's why people had a go at the Canadian PM.

Nobody should be doing it!

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6 hours ago, MattP said:

A drink shall be raised tonight - finally.

 

 

Maybe by you. Not by anyone who has done any decent research into the implications of BREXIT. 

 

The well off will be fine. Probably more well off. But the rest of us will see a huge hike in our living costs and a stagnation of pay increases to make those hikes even harder to stomach. 

 

Terrible time on the history of this country. People will be begging for it to end after a year of exiting the EU. 

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9 hours ago, MattP said:

Providing the Tories kick out the racists when they find them, rather than Labour who hid and in some cases backed them - the situations are completely different.

The Leader of the Tory party has publicly made racist and bigot comments throughout the campaign. What makes you think they'll kick anyone else for doing it? 

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2 hours ago, StanSP said:

Err, what??? 

 

 

To be honest, problem tenants on council estates deserve very little sympathy, they make others lives hell.

If you've ever had to live near them, if the house burned down you'd probably celebrate.

I remember in my teens a nuisance neighbour near Iceland on the Saff and one night it got so bad it kicked off, basically a mini riot with the police sitting in a van watching and making multiple arrests the next day, have no sympathy for the fuuchers what so ever.

 

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4 hours ago, StanSP said:

Err, what??? 

 

 

 

Lee Anderson

The new MP for Ashfield won his seat despite facing allegations that he was an active member of a Facebook group that included conspiracy theories about billionaire George Soros and supporters of far-right activist Tommy Robinson.

The former miner and Labour councillor had previously been reprimanded by the party for sexist comments. He was also caught on camera asking a friend to pose as an anti-Labour swing voter to impress journalist Michael Crick.

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The Guardian disclosed that he was warned about his conduct by the Tories after posting a sexist comment on Facebook in July 2018.

The posting showed a photo of Anderson looking at the chest of a female canvasser in a vest top. He captioned the photo: “Out with some great knockers tonight in Skegby.”

He has previously attracted criticism for posting a video in which he said nuisance tenants should be forced to live “in a tent in the middle of a field” after being kicked out of their homes.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/16/who-are-the-conservatives-most-controversial-new-mps

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