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FT General Election Poll 2019

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FT General Election 2019  

501 members have voted

  1. 1. Which party will be getting your vote?

    • Conservative
      155
    • Labour
      188
    • Liberal Democrats
      93
    • Brexit Party
      17
    • Green Party
      26
    • Other
      22

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StanSP

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4 hours ago, ithuriel said:

To be honest, problem tenants on council estates deserve very little sympathy, they make others lives hell.

If you've ever had to live near them, if the house burned down you'd probably celebrate.

I remember in my teens a nuisance neighbour near Iceland on the Saff and one night it got so bad it kicked off, basically a mini riot with the police sitting in a van watching and making multiple arrests the next day, have no sympathy for the fuuchers what so ever.

 

Erm I work with them. Making them live in tents is not the answer ffs. 

 

Celebrating their houses on fire also isn't a great thinking to have. 

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ithuriel

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3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Erm I work with them. Making them live in tents is not the answer ffs. 

 

Celebrating their houses on fire also isn't a great thinking to have. 

I've lived next to them, I have no sympathy for assholes who make other peoples lives hell.

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2 hours ago, bovril said:

I imagine the Conservatives put some of their wackier candidates in seats they were sure they wouldn't win... and then they won. 

Some corkers to be honest.

 

It's great though we'll have so many Tories who are now northern and speak so differently to what we get usually.

 

Dehenna Davison already looks fantastic, she's just so far away from what the stereotypical Tory is supposed to be.

 

I genuinely feel like the party represents me now far more than it ever has, what Boris has done has been incredible, united the party on Europe and delivered it's biggest win since Thatcher. 

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somebum

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1 hour ago, ithuriel said:

I've lived next to them, I have no sympathy for assholes who make other peoples lives hell.

Im with you!

 

Living next door to them and 'working with them' are two totally different things.

 

One is where you suffer 24/7, the other is having a bleeding heart up until you get to go home and open your wine at 6 and forget about them.

 

 

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Aus Fox

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21 hours ago, StanSP said:

Erm I work with them. Making them live in tents is not the answer ffs. 

 

Celebrating their houses on fire also isn't a great thinking to have. 

Genuine question, and not saying the MP is correct, but what is the solution?

I grew up with people like this on the estate and they make your life a misery, the noise, the abuse, the complete disregard for anyone else. 

 

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23 hours ago, bovril said:

The hostile environment and the 'go home' vans were particularly p.c.

You're right. I wasn't suggesting Cameron and May had turned the Conservative party into something socially liberal people would or should support but there was definite intent to put across that image, something that Johnson doesn't appear to do. I can't imagine the likes of Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson flocking to join the party under Cameron.

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StanSP

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21 hours ago, Aus Fox said:

Genuine question, and not saying the MP is correct, but what is the solution?

I grew up with people like this on the estate and they make your life a misery, the noise, the abuse, the complete disregard for anyone else. 

 

I can guarantee you setting their houses on fire is not the answer as frustrating as it must be to anyone experiencing the issues. 

 

Tougher controls for landlords on tenants. Make it easier to report issues - cuts to pretty much every council in the country affect the ability to report and collate evidence as less staff available to deal with all kids of issues. Same goes for Police. Less PCSOs on the streets over the years pave the way for minor and petty crimes to increase in volume and stature leading to more serious instances of antisocial behaviour. 

 

Basically I manage approx 450-500 properties in an area of my town where I've seen the above first hand (I appreciate it's not the same as living with it 24/7 don't get me wrong). I've seen communities affected by gang violence and knife crime. I've seen neighbours fall out over the smallest of things which grew and developed in to something worse because it couldn't be dealt with in the first place early on. 

 

I'll obviously sympathise for anyone who experiences ASB at any level but the solution is not and never should be to put them in tents on the street which would only resemble something you'd see in Calais like some refugee camp. It's demeaning and inhumane. It's a sorry state of affairs when an MP comes out to suggest that. 

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1 hour ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Boris Johnson getting stick for taking a nice holiday after a rather hectic year.

Lots of jealousy and bitterness abounds.

:dunno: He's a public servant, evidently some folks don't like it when public servants don't serve the public (especially when situations are as parlous as they are). He chose to take the job, after all.

 

Also don't get the "jealousy" angle - envy implies that everyone involved wants to have power and the other benefits Boris enjoys rather than rearranging the system entirely - something of an assumption.

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Alf Bentley

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Absolutely bonkers, the polarisation by age group now, if Mail figures are correct: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7839977/Youthquake-vote-won-Election-Labour-18-24-year-olds-voters.html

 

- If only 18-24-year-olds had voted: Labour majority of 438, 58 SNP MPs & only 4 Tory MPs

- If only those aged 65+ had voted: Tory majority of 474 & only 51 Labour MPs

- Those aged under 50 voted to put Corbyn in No. 10; those aged over 50 voted for a Tory landslide of 192-474

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

Absolutely bonkers, the polarisation by age group now, if Mail figures are correct: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7839977/Youthquake-vote-won-Election-Labour-18-24-year-olds-voters.html

 

- If only 18-24-year-olds had voted: Labour majority of 438, 58 SNP MPs & only 4 Tory MPs

- If only those aged 65+ had voted: Tory majority of 474 & only 51 Labour MPs

- Those aged under 50 voted to put Corbyn in No. 10; those aged over 50 voted for a Tory landslide of 192-474

 

 

I could've guessed that one of the 4 Tory seats they would get in an 18-24 election would be South Holland and the Deepings, just across from my constituency in the Fens. Conservatism runs deep. Although to be honest I'd be surprised if there are any under 24's living there that even realised there was an election on. 

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9 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

Absolutely bonkers, the polarisation by age group now, if Mail figures are correct: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7839977/Youthquake-vote-won-Election-Labour-18-24-year-olds-voters.html

 

- If only 18-24-year-olds had voted: Labour majority of 438, 58 SNP MPs & only 4 Tory MPs

- If only those aged 65+ had voted: Tory majority of 474 & only 51 Labour MPs

- Those aged under 50 voted to put Corbyn in No. 10; those aged over 50 voted for a Tory landslide of 192-474

 

 

Is it bonkers, those under 24 have had much more recent contact with the socialist education system. Have nothing to get taken away by socialism. 

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