Dorkingfox Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 34 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: Some of these look a bit dodgy but in the early sixties we had Banks, McLintock,Appleton and Gibson of the very highest class. Just a pity that Spurs were even better. Derek Hines scored 116 goals for the Foxes (4 in a match once), he forged a prolific strike partnership with Aurther Rowley (236 in 8 years at Foxes)
Dorkingfox Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 31 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: I scrolled down thins thread at a fair rate but did I really see Wilfred Ndidi’s name mentioned? He is so good we just take him for granted.
Guest An Sionnach Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 Just now, Dorkingfox said: Derek Hines scored 116 goals for the Foxes (4 in a match once), he forged a prolific strike partnership with Aurther Rowley (236 in 8 years at Foxes) True but many were in division 2. Having said that Arthur was one of the most powerful strikers ever. Pity he couldn't run but once he had rumbled into position he was devastating.
Dorkingfox Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 12 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: True but many were in division 2. Having said that Arthur was one of the most powerful strikers ever. Pity he couldn't run but once he had rumbled into position he was devastating. But what level were leagues in other countries like at the time?
Meat and 2 veg Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 Kantè and Ricardo are/were truly world class. Vardy, Mahrez and I think Ndidi (On current form) can be debated I think..
Meat and 2 veg Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 39 minutes ago, filbertway said: Kanté Ricardo I'd say Vardy and Mahrez probably fall in the bracket below. Capable of 10/10 performances but can often dish out ineffective performances. Could be down to the fact they're attacking players and less chance to have an influence on every game. Kante and Ricardo are 8/10 every game at least. Always standout players, that for me is world class. Couldn’t agree more !
themightyfin Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 Banks Shilton Lineker Kante Are the only Truly world class players we have had. RM Vardy Ndidi Ricardo Are all very good players and have been for leicester as a club but none would make a world 11 or come anywhere near and that has to be the yardstick for world class.
Meat and 2 veg Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 2 minutes ago, themightyfin said: Banks Shilton Lineker Kante Are the only Truly world class players we have had. RM Vardy Ndidi Ricardo Are all very good players and have been for leicester as a club but none would make a world 11 or come anywhere near and that has to be the yardstick for world class. Not saying my Knowledge of European football is partically great, but is there really a better right back in Europe better than Ricardo ? If so, he must be a bloody good full back..
urban fox Posted 18 December 2019 Author Posted 18 December 2019 Just now, themightyfin said: Banks Shilton Lineker Kante Are the only Truly world class players we have had. RM Vardy Ndidi Ricardo Are all very good players and have been for leicester as a club but none would make a world 11 or come anywhere near and that has to be the yardstick for world class. A good point but have to disagree somewhat. You can have more than one world class player for any given position but they cannot all play in a world XI at the same time. Banks and Yashin were both world class keepers (probably the top two of all time) around at the same time but only one could play in a world XI. You can argue that player X or Y is the best but that does not mean that there are not others who are world class doing the same job elsewhere.
Dan Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 Kante is. Ricardo is in my opinion. I think Vardy cannot be far off this either to be honest - he has for years scored at an immense rate, often doing it in a team that creates not that many chances. His form this season has been absurd. He's on course for the highest goals tally of any Premier League player in one season ever. Mahrez never truly holding down a place in Man City's side I think puts him in the next catergory down from World Class, but obviously still a top player. World class for me has to be players who get into nearly any team in the world. Ricardo for me would start for just about anybody.
Lambert09 Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 I think world class means you would be at least top 5 pick in your position? Or is that too harsh, Ive always taken world class to mean youd get in the world xI squad... maybe thats just me. Under that very high bar, Vardy wouldnt cut it for most unfortunately... although most leicester fans would include him. Kante 100%! Ricardo is probably the closest to getting there in the current squad. Mahrez has too much competition for the spots. According to Crystal Palace fans, sir jeff isnt far away.
foxy boxing Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 World class means they would walk into any other team in the world and make them better. That means teams like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juvenntus, Bayern. Kante possibly Riicardo Mahrezz wouldn't improve those teams, he may be doing well at Man City but he hasn't improved them.
Guest An Sionnach Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 11 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: I think world class means you would be at least top 5 pick in your position? Or is that too harsh, Ive always taken world class to mean youd get in the world xI squad... maybe thats just me. Under that very high bar, Vardy wouldnt cut it for most unfortunately... although most leicester fans would include him. Kante 100%! Ricardo is probably the closest to getting there in the current squad. Mahrez has too much competition for the spots. According to Crystal Palace fans, sir jeff isnt far away. Not mentioned here is Jonny Evans, very few better centre backs around. Like John Terry you don't realise how good he is until he's gone. Ask Man. Utd.
volpeazzurro Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 A very subjective one this and also depends on how high or low your individual bar is and the strength of your blue tinted glasses. For me Banks and Shilton certainly together with Cambiasso and Kante. Linekar and Vardy borderline and that's about it. Ricardo and certain others present have great potential in the next few years but nowhere near just yet.
StanSP Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 Kante, Vardy & Mahrez at the moment, for me. Ricardo is on the way there. Don't think he's world class just yet.
Lambert09 Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 1 hour ago, urban fox said: A good point but have to disagree somewhat. You can have more than one world class player for any given position but they cannot all play in a world XI at the same time. Banks and Yashin were both world class keepers (probably the top two of all time) around at the same time but only one could play in a world XI. You can argue that player X or Y is the best but that does not mean that there are not others who are world class doing the same job elsewhere. Good point, what formation are we playing. Who's in charge? Because Big Sam is only playing Carlton Cole up top and suddenly Huth is a contender.
Guest An Sionnach Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 13 minutes ago, StanSP said: Kante, Vardy & Mahrez at the moment, for me. Ricardo is on the way there. Don't think he's world class just yet. Two of these are hard working team men who generally never stop running while one flits in and out of matches when he feels like it and can be as annoying as f**k. World class means more than just skill.
TRAD-DAD Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 I would say to earn the accolade of world class, you would have to have played at the top level in at least three world class leagues. Either Italy or Spain and England or maybe Germany to prove you can do it at all leagues and levels not just the premier league.
adam1 Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 Past WC when we had them: Cambiasso Mancini WC with us: Banks Shilton Lineker Kante Mahrez (when he wanted to be) Vardy Ricardo Heskey (controversial) Will be WC Tielemans Ndidi Maddison Now to throw in a curve ball who could have easily played for a bigger team and thus potentially be wc.... Gareth McAuley
Raj Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 At the moment only Vards hits them heady heights. He's just not fashionable for the big boys. If he was called Vardinhio he'd be at somewhere like real Madrid on £300k a week with a stupid record transfer fee. Like others have said of the last decade only Mahrez and Kante could be classed as Elite with the later showing year on year how invaluable he is to a team for his unselfish work.
Wolfox Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 FoxesTalk is world class at creating and debating world class Leicester players… Until you agree on a definition one persons very good is another persons world class
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 18 December 2019 Posted 18 December 2019 If Wilf isn't world class he's got to be as close as you can get without being.
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