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Voll Blau

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12 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

You still searching for faults Stan?

I’d imagine Hancock’s bloody job this year is a completely unenviable task.

Maybe you should go into politics if you think you could do better?

"Searching for faults?" Didn't have to look too hard, did he? lol

 

If Hancock (or any politician of any colour for that matter) is going to go and puff himself up on national TV like he's done these kids a favour then the least he can do is explain why he didn't bother to do so in the first place.

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The People's Hero

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10 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

"Searching for faults?" Didn't have to look too hard, did he? lol

 

If Hancock (or any politician of any colour for that matter) is going to go and puff himself up on national TV like he's done these kids a favour then the least he can do is explain why he didn't bother to do so in the first place.

He didn't even 'not bother' though; he actively voted against it! What a plum.

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17 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Huh? 

 

Can they not be brought to question on their job then? I've not once denied they're in a tough job but it was a simple question to answer and he dodged it like the smarmy person he is. 

 

If you want to defend them on the basis 'it's a tough job, leave them alone, don't hurt their feelings' then so be it. But don't try and stop me or anyone else bringing stuff like this up just because you don't like seeing it. 

I’m no fan of Hancock whatsoever. 
But I’m making the point that his job this year must be ridiculously tough and that you can always find faults if you look. In this case it’s obvious. I don’t agree for instance that the Minister for Health has never worked in Health (that I know of)

Again, if you feel so strongly about what is being done and said then why don’t you do something about it and get yersen into politics? Channel your frustration into something that could actually make a difference. 

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4 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I’m no fan of Hancock whatsoever. 
But I’m making the point that his job this year must be ridiculously tough and that you can always find faults if you look. In this case it’s obvious. I don’t agree for instance that the Minister for Health has never worked in Health (that I know of)

Again, if you feel so strongly about what is being done and said then why don’t you do something about it and get yersen into politics? Channel your frustration into something that could actually make a difference. 

 

This is just a completely stupid non-argument Col.

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45 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Ugh you can feel the squirm. 

 

Proper slime ball is Hancock. Pretty sure he would garner more respect if he was just honest. The fact he dodges the question several times is pretty much telling anyway. 

 

 

 

Wow! I'm actually a little uncomfortable with how angry this makes me. 

 

Happy to take credit for something that he actively didn't want to happen despite it being the right thing to do and then, not only refusing to acknowledge regret about dragging his heels on the matter but point blank refusing to answer the question about wether or not he has regrets all whilst claiming that he is indeed responding to it. All with an overwhelming arrogance. 

 

Question, this man is a member of our government which is supposed to represent us, do any of you feel this man accurately represents or serves your best interests?

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12 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

What? That you can't criticise the government unless you are a politician yourself?

 

No, I think that's the opposite of democracy tbh.

You can criticise of course, there was never in question. If you want to drive change you certainly do not achieve that by gobbing off on a forum (Albeit the MIGHTY FOXESTALK)

You get yourself involved in the political process

 

 

Do people seriously think that social media is some sort of political gateway??  :blink:

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I have no interest in getting in to politics but I feel quite comfortable criticising them where I feel necessary. Just because I don't have that interest doesn't relinquish the ability to give such criticism so with all due respect @Col city fan I think you're chatting shit in that instance. 

 

It's like all the criticisms we give as football fans. All the players you can't stand. 'if you think you can do a better job, 'get yersen' in to football if you think you can do better! Channel your frustration in to doing something about it!!'

 

Doesn't quite work like that does it? 

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5 minutes ago, StanSP said:

No and I don't think anyone is saying that? 

Are you seriously suggesting that I have the wrong end of the stick?  How rude lol

 

But seriously, although it was not my place to respond to @ealingfox on his reply to @Col city fan, but I read it as a refusal to recognise that getting involved more actively in politics was not a valid approach (As per this quote)

 

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Again, if you feel so strongly about what is being done and said then why don’t you do something about it and get yersen into politics? Channel your frustration into something that could actually make a difference. 

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This is just a completely stupid non-argument Col.

 

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35 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I’m no fan of Hancock whatsoever. 
But I’m making the point that his job this year must be ridiculously tough and that you can always find faults if you look. In this case it’s obvious. I don’t agree for instance that the Minister for Health has never worked in Health (that I know of)

Again, if you feel so strongly about what is being done and said then why don’t you do something about it and get yersen into politics? Channel your frustration into something that could actually make a difference. 

When you - or anyone else - has a little moan about LCFC (justified or otherwise), is the de facto response to encourage them to get their FA badges so they can 'make a difference'? 

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2 minutes ago, egg_fried_rice said:

When you - or anyone else - has a little moan about LCFC (justified or otherwise), is the de facto response to encourage them to get their FA badges so they can 'make a difference'? 

Depends, Are you moaning or expecting change?

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1 minute ago, Zear0 said:

On the FT forum?  We're moaning which is one of life's great joys.

Sure, but if you all you* do is moan, then maybe its time to get involved?

 

* this is a general you, not you specifically

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30 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

What? That you can't criticise the government unless you are a politician yourself?

 

No, I think that's the opposite of democracy tbh.

We are talking about a health secretary that no constituent voted to put in that position serving in a cabinet for a prime minister that no constituent voted to put into power at the head of a party that the vast majority of people in my country voted against....

 

What relevance does democracy play in any of this?!

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Just now, egg_fried_rice said:

I'd argue that it doesn't matter in relation to the point I was making.

 

One can desire change, rather than expect it, and voice their concerns and wishes accordingly. 

Of course, each to their own. Seems sort of pointless though  lol

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1 minute ago, egg_fried_rice said:

I'd argue that it doesn't matter in relation to the point I was making.

 

One can desire change, rather than expect it, and voice their concerns and wishes accordingly. 

Absolutely. Everyone is free is moan about whatever they want. 

 

And others are free to moan that the constant moaners are boring and dull. Like a twitter bot. Like old toddy with the guardian links or matt and his Jeremy Jews. 

 

Boring shite. :yawn:

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Just now, Line-X said:

Unfortunately, it was very much the 'gateway' to the election of Donald Trump. 

I was certainly not referring to the politics of madness we see in the US currently

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2 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said:

We are talking about a health secretary that no constituent voted to put in that position serving in a cabinet for a prime minister that no constituent voted to put into power at the head of a party that the vast majority of people in my country voted against....

 

What relevance does democracy play in any of this?!

So....we should automatically call a GE when the current PM dies/faces a vote of no confidence/kidnapped by aliens/etc?

 

Or run a national poll to pick ministers?

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1 minute ago, Innovindil said:

Absolutely. Everyone is free is moan about whatever they want. 

 

And others are free to moan that the constant moaners are boring and dull. Like a twitter bot. Like old toddy with the guardian links or matt and his Jeremy Jews. 

 

Boring shite. :yawn:

I'd say highlighting the incompetency of government should never be a boring thing to discuss, and that goes for whoever is in power.

 

Maybe (any) government should be less incompetent, be a bit more sympathetic, show a little honesty and respect for the people they are leading, show some leadership, some authority, some humanity and then this area of the forum might be a little less busy :D:shutup:

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