2020/21 Under 23's, U19's, Development ... thread

[lcfcfoz]

back to 0-1 goal not given

[moore_94]

1 minute ago, lcfcfoz said:

back to 0-1 goal not given

Are you watching a stream?

[lcfcfoz]

no, flashscore

[AjcW]

6 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Before the goal both sides had chances

 

Stolarczyk pulls off another smart stop to hold on to Longstaff's strike after O'Rourke strikes the post for the visitors.

 

Russ brings the ball down and finds Leshabela, who slides it across for Suengchitthawon, but his low shot is saved by Ojrzynski.

 

Ben Woodburn (remember him?) with the goal for Liverpool

 

3rd and last (?) change, a left back on for a right back

 

Not just any left back. An almost over age one not good enough for Brentford, that we’ve been letting train with us for absolutely no ****ing reason for half a season....

Edited 10 May 2021 by AjcW

[moore_94]

2-0. Game Over.

Edited 10 May 2021 by moore_94

[moore_94]

Full Time. Under 23s have been relegated to Division 2.

Edited 10 May 2021 by moore_94

[lcfcfoz]

Boo

[UniFox21]

Maybe this is the wake up call the academy side needs. 

[Winsum]

We have a training ground worth £100 million and play under 23 football that would not look out of place

On a public park.Something needs to change

[AjcW]

Good start to life at the new academy. U23’s getting relegated and Under 18’s second bottom.
 

Time for a restart 👍

[Ric Flair]

2 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Good start to life at the new academy. U23’s getting relegated and Under 18’s second bottom.
 

Time for a restart 👍

Won't happen

[Foxy-Lady]

12 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Won't happen

well if it doesn't happen now....it NEVER will!

 

Imagine trying to recruit top players 18-23 with the enticement that, despite all our resources and world class training facilities, we are not even good enough to be in the top tier of Academy Football...!  

 

Seen it coming for years...what a f****** shambles!

[Ric Flair]

Just now, Foxy-Lady said:

well if it doesn't happen now....it NEVER will!

 

Imagine trying to recruit top players 18-23 with the enticement that, despite all our resources and world class training facilities, we are not even good enough to be in the top tier of Academy Football...!  

 

Seen it coming for years...what a f****** shambles!

I know, it will be a hard sell if they don't shake it up. Villa have done so in recent years and managed to recruit really well in the 2nd division so it can be done but we need to sort ourselves out as it's been coming for a long while. 

[Angus Scott]

17 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Good start to life at the new academy. U23’s getting relegated and Under 18’s second bottom.
 

Time for a restart 👍

Perhaps the training ground is a white elephant. Would we have been better to spend the 100 mill on players for he first team, after all Belvoir Drive is hardly the pits

[UniFox21]

4 minutes ago, Angus Scott said:

Perhaps the training ground is a white elephant. Would we have been better to spend the 100 mill on players for he first team, after all Belvoir Drive is hardly the pits

The academy isn't the only aspect benefitting from the training ground. The first team squad will hugely. 

[AjcW]

6 minutes ago, Angus Scott said:

Perhaps the training ground is a white elephant. Would we have been better to spend the 100 mill on players for he first team, after all Belvoir Drive is hardly the pits

Yeah you’ve lost me there mate sorry. 
 

My point is just that we can’t go on running it the same way it has been now that we have what we have. 

[sacreblueits442]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Won't happen

...it must....!!!

If this does not give Rodgers the powers to restructure the academy then, you might just be right. Surely Rodgers will now be backed in whatever vision he has in the development of the academy. The failure this season has opened the door and Khun Top must drive the push for excellence and back a radical approach in order to speed up the process and identify existing coaches out there with the ability to train youngsters to play in a more continental fashion.

  The Premier League is no longer a league, where stamina and physicality are the base elements to build on, it is now a more technically and expansive style of football being played, driven by Continental coaches, at the head of the best English teams.

  For Rudkin to attempt to continue in the way that has brought us to this, would be pure folly, and blind stubbornness.

[moore_94]

Just from reading the below match report we would've been lucky to even get a draw, Liverpool fully deserved the win and could have scored a lot more.

 

https://www.lcfc.com/news/2136875/liverpool-defeat-for-city-under23s-in-pl2

 

Leicester City's Development Squad went down 2-0 to Liverpool Under-23s in a closely fought encounter at LCFC Training Ground on Monday.

 

The Premier League 2 Division 1 season finale pitted the Foxes against the same opposition as on matchday 23, when it finished all square in Merseyside a week ago.

Three changes were made to the City side, with Iestyn Hughes, Ben Nelson and Callum Hulme coming in for Vontae Daley-Campbell, Cole Dasilva and Tyrese Shade. But Shade was soon into the action, replacing the injured Sidnei Tavares, who went off with an injury.

Liverpool started brightly and created the first attempt when Luis Longstaff twisted and turned in the box before his low effort was deflected wide by Nelson. Tom Clayton headed the resulting corner wide as the visitors enjoyed the better of the opening exchanges.

And the away side went even closer when captain Ben Woodburn shifted the ball across for Leighton Clarkson, whose shot had to be parried away at point-blank range by Jakub Stolarczyk.

Fidel O'Rourke then capitalised on a defensive mix-up to race through on goal, but his attempt was brilliantly blocked by Mitch Clark, before Clayton headed another Longstaff corner wide of target.

The Reds continued to cause problems for Leicester's backline as Elijah Dixon-Bonner skied the ball over from a Longstaff cross. Some neat interplay on the edge of the area then allowed O'Rourke to get another shot away and this time Clark got back to clear the effort off the line.

City's first sightings of goal came at the end of the half from Shade's header, which deflected off Owen Beck from Shane Flynn's cross. The golden opportunity came moments later when Shade beat the offside trap and opted to square the ball to Kasey McAteer, who was unable to hit the target from close range.

Into the second period it was more of the same from Liverpool, as Beck cut inside onto his right foot and fired an effort into the side-netting. Stolarczyk then had to pull off another smart save to hold on to Longstaff's strike after O'Rourke's attempt came back off the post.

At the other end, substitute Will Russ brought the ball down for Khanya Leshabela, who played it across to Thanawat Suengchitthawon, but Jakub Ojrzynski was equal to his shot.

That moment would prove costly as Liverpool quickly broke away and opened the scoring, just ahead of the hour mark. Woodburn fired the ball home, beating Stolarczyk at his near post.

The away side had the ball in the net again soon after as Dixon-Bonner found Longstaff and he slid the ball across for O'Rourke to tap in from an offside position.

Liverpool still looked more likely to find a second when Longstaff went for goal himself after carrying the ball from the half-way line, seeing his powerful strike cannoned back off the crossbar.

Chances were few and far between for City, though Flynn was presented with an opportunity from Hulme's cross, which landed at his feet inside the area, but he scooped the ball over the bar from a tight angle.

Flynn went even closer when he arrived at the back post to meet Wakeling's cross and headed narrowly wide of target.

As Leicester pushed more bodies forward, it was always going to leave gaps at the back and so it proved as substitute Kaide Gordon fired in a second in the final minute of normal time.

 

Major moment

The contest was finely poised at 0-0 but once Liverpool got their noses in front it was always going to be a difficult task for Leicester to turn the game around and find two goals in the last half an hour. 

 

Who impressed?

Mitch Clark prevented several near-certain goals for the visitors in the first half, including making two last-ditch tackles and a goal-line clearance. Vital headers and blocks were also made in the second period. Playing alongside Ben Nelson, the 22-year-old used his experience to great effect, although he was unable to prevent Liverpool going ahead in the end.

 

Where does it leave us?

Leicester City's Development Squad have finished 12th in the Premier League 2 Division 1 table on 22 points from 24 games. - ALSO KNOWN AS RELEGATED.

[lgfualol]

Does this mean we'll bring in a load of 6ft 5 21 year old free agents to try and bully our way back to first div

[Ric Flair]

26 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Just from reading the below match report we would've been lucky to even get a draw, Liverpool fully deserved the win and could have scored a lot more.

 

https://www.lcfc.com/news/2136875/liverpool-defeat-for-city-under23s-in-pl2

 

Leicester City's Development Squad went down 2-0 to Liverpool Under-23s in a closely fought encounter at LCFC Training Ground on Monday.

 

The Premier League 2 Division 1 season finale pitted the Foxes against the same opposition as on matchday 23, when it finished all square in Merseyside a week ago.

Three changes were made to the City side, with Iestyn Hughes, Ben Nelson and Callum Hulme coming in for Vontae Daley-Campbell, Cole Dasilva and Tyrese Shade. But Shade was soon into the action, replacing the injured Sidnei Tavares, who went off with an injury.

Liverpool started brightly and created the first attempt when Luis Longstaff twisted and turned in the box before his low effort was deflected wide by Nelson. Tom Clayton headed the resulting corner wide as the visitors enjoyed the better of the opening exchanges.

And the away side went even closer when captain Ben Woodburn shifted the ball across for Leighton Clarkson, whose shot had to be parried away at point-blank range by Jakub Stolarczyk.

Fidel O'Rourke then capitalised on a defensive mix-up to race through on goal, but his attempt was brilliantly blocked by Mitch Clark, before Clayton headed another Longstaff corner wide of target.

The Reds continued to cause problems for Leicester's backline as Elijah Dixon-Bonner skied the ball over from a Longstaff cross. Some neat interplay on the edge of the area then allowed O'Rourke to get another shot away and this time Clark got back to clear the effort off the line.

City's first sightings of goal came at the end of the half from Shade's header, which deflected off Owen Beck from Shane Flynn's cross. The golden opportunity came moments later when Shade beat the offside trap and opted to square the ball to Kasey McAteer, who was unable to hit the target from close range.

Into the second period it was more of the same from Liverpool, as Beck cut inside onto his right foot and fired an effort into the side-netting. Stolarczyk then had to pull off another smart save to hold on to Longstaff's strike after O'Rourke's attempt came back off the post.

At the other end, substitute Will Russ brought the ball down for Khanya Leshabela, who played it across to Thanawat Suengchitthawon, but Jakub Ojrzynski was equal to his shot.

That moment would prove costly as Liverpool quickly broke away and opened the scoring, just ahead of the hour mark. Woodburn fired the ball home, beating Stolarczyk at his near post.

The away side had the ball in the net again soon after as Dixon-Bonner found Longstaff and he slid the ball across for O'Rourke to tap in from an offside position.

Liverpool still looked more likely to find a second when Longstaff went for goal himself after carrying the ball from the half-way line, seeing his powerful strike cannoned back off the crossbar.

Chances were few and far between for City, though Flynn was presented with an opportunity from Hulme's cross, which landed at his feet inside the area, but he scooped the ball over the bar from a tight angle.

Flynn went even closer when he arrived at the back post to meet Wakeling's cross and headed narrowly wide of target.

As Leicester pushed more bodies forward, it was always going to leave gaps at the back and so it proved as substitute Kaide Gordon fired in a second in the final minute of normal time.

 

Major moment

The contest was finely poised at 0-0 but once Liverpool got their noses in front it was always going to be a difficult task for Leicester to turn the game around and find two goals in the last half an hour. 

 

Who impressed?

Mitch Clark prevented several near-certain goals for the visitors in the first half, including making two last-ditch tackles and a goal-line clearance. Vital headers and blocks were also made in the second period. Playing alongside Ben Nelson, the 22-year-old used his experience to great effect, although he was unable to prevent Liverpool going ahead in the end.

 

Where does it leave us?

Leicester City's Development Squad have finished 12th in the Premier League 2 Division 1 table on 22 points from 24 games. - ALSO KNOWN AS RELEGATED.

Hahahahaaaa trying to sneak relegation in through the back door and hope nobody notices

[Ric Flair]

28 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

Does this mean we'll bring in a load of 6ft 5 21 year old free agents to try and bully our way back to first div

Yeah if anything this will back up Beagleholes desire to not loan his players out and have more 21 and 22 year olds playing every game and having a kitty build up for the player who can launch thr ball furthest up pitch most often takes the lot.

[Foxy-Lady]

10 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Just from reading the below match report we would've been lucky to even get a draw, Liverpool fully deserved the win and could have scored a lot more.

 

https://www.lcfc.com/news/2136875/liverpool-defeat-for-city-under23s-in-pl2

 

Leicester City's Development Squad went down 2-0 to Liverpool Under-23s in a closely fought encounter at LCFC Training Ground on Monday.

 

The Premier League 2 Division 1 season finale pitted the Foxes against the same opposition as on matchday 23, when it finished all square in Merseyside a week ago.

Three changes were made to the City side, with Iestyn Hughes, Ben Nelson and Callum Hulme coming in for Vontae Daley-Campbell, Cole Dasilva and Tyrese Shade. But Shade was soon into the action, replacing the injured Sidnei Tavares, who went off with an injury.

Liverpool started brightly and created the first attempt when Luis Longstaff twisted and turned in the box before his low effort was deflected wide by Nelson. Tom Clayton headed the resulting corner wide as the visitors enjoyed the better of the opening exchanges.

And the away side went even closer when captain Ben Woodburn shifted the ball across for Leighton Clarkson, whose shot had to be parried away at point-blank range by Jakub Stolarczyk.

Fidel O'Rourke then capitalised on a defensive mix-up to race through on goal, but his attempt was brilliantly blocked by Mitch Clark, before Clayton headed another Longstaff corner wide of target.

The Reds continued to cause problems for Leicester's backline as Elijah Dixon-Bonner skied the ball over from a Longstaff cross. Some neat interplay on the edge of the area then allowed O'Rourke to get another shot away and this time Clark got back to clear the effort off the line.

City's first sightings of goal came at the end of the half from Shade's header, which deflected off Owen Beck from Shane Flynn's cross. The golden opportunity came moments later when Shade beat the offside trap and opted to square the ball to Kasey McAteer, who was unable to hit the target from close range.

Into the second period it was more of the same from Liverpool, as Beck cut inside onto his right foot and fired an effort into the side-netting. Stolarczyk then had to pull off another smart save to hold on to Longstaff's strike after O'Rourke's attempt came back off the post.

At the other end, substitute Will Russ brought the ball down for Khanya Leshabela, who played it across to Thanawat Suengchitthawon, but Jakub Ojrzynski was equal to his shot.

That moment would prove costly as Liverpool quickly broke away and opened the scoring, just ahead of the hour mark. Woodburn fired the ball home, beating Stolarczyk at his near post.

The away side had the ball in the net again soon after as Dixon-Bonner found Longstaff and he slid the ball across for O'Rourke to tap in from an offside position.

Liverpool still looked more likely to find a second when Longstaff went for goal himself after carrying the ball from the half-way line, seeing his powerful strike cannoned back off the crossbar.

Chances were few and far between for City, though Flynn was presented with an opportunity from Hulme's cross, which landed at his feet inside the area, but he scooped the ball over the bar from a tight angle.

Flynn went even closer when he arrived at the back post to meet Wakeling's cross and headed narrowly wide of target.

As Leicester pushed more bodies forward, it was always going to leave gaps at the back and so it proved as substitute Kaide Gordon fired in a second in the final minute of normal time.

 

Major moment

The contest was finely poised at 0-0 but once Liverpool got their noses in front it was always going to be a difficult task for Leicester to turn the game around and find two goals in the last half an hour. 

 

Who impressed?

Mitch Clark prevented several near-certain goals for the visitors in the first half, including making two last-ditch tackles and a goal-line clearance. Vital headers and blocks were also made in the second period. Playing alongside Ben Nelson, the 22-year-old used his experience to great effect, although he was unable to prevent Liverpool going ahead in the end.

 

Where does it leave us?

Leicester City's Development Squad have finished 12th in the Premier League 2 Division 1 table on 22 points from 24 games. - ALSO KNOWN AS RELEGATED.

I read that report on the clubs twitter account last night and was amazed it DIDNT mention the RELGATION word anywhere in the piece.

 

I see you've added it at the end just to highlight exactly what the club were clearly trying to avoid saying.....presumably hoping readers wouldnt realise there are only 13 teams in the league and finishing 12th is NOT the equivalent of mid-table!   Suspect Rudkins fingerprints were all over the final edit on this one before it was posted....!

[davieG]

What's going to happen to the guys on loan, are any of them U23? I guess it guarantees them and any over decent ones, if there are any will go on loan if their not in the 1st team squad. Playing in the 2nd tier will be no good for them.

 

Might even be better for their careers if they moved on.

[Foxy-Lady]

10 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Yeah if anything this will back up Beagleholes desire to not loan his players out and have more 21 and 22 year olds playing every game and having a kitty build up for the player who can launch thr ball furthest up pitch most often takes the lot.

That's been the whole problem for the past 6-7 years.....Rudkin/Beaglehole didnt seem to see the U23 as part of a development process for the first team.....they saw it as a reflection on them and its their egos that are at stake.

Their primary focus was on not losing and finishing as high in PL2 as possible to present the Academy in a good light and they have previously either played senior over-age players or prevented the really talented younger ones from being loaned out in order to achieve this....to the detrement of the players personal development and ultimately the football club.  

 

Seems that in recent years (& certainly since BRs arrival) the emphasis has rightly changed.

There are no longer "over-age" players included to help boost results (& quite rightly so!!), the better/older players are being loaned out (KDH, Knight, Eppiah, Wright etc...) and Beaglehole is now having to be reliant on his own ability to develop the younger players coming through to replace the 21/22 year olds who are being sent out on loan.

This is the way it is done at other TOP Acadamies who rarely field over-age players and are always continually clearing out a pathway for the more talented younger players who are coming up through the age-groups.

 

As some of us have been highlighting on this forum for years, Beaglehole is not equipped and not good enough to do this..... he is an old school sergeant-major training ground bully whose coaching techniques belong back in lower league football (oe the 1970s).....but he has been protected for too long by Jon Rudkin 

 

I suspect it is BR that has driven this change in selection policy as his only priority is that EVERYTHING should be geared towards the improvement of the 1st team.....and if relegation from U23 PL2 makes everyone sit up and take note and make the necessary changes and improvements then perhaps it is the best thing that could have happened...!! 

[Kilworthfox]

11 hours ago, Angus Scott said:

Perhaps the training ground is a white elephant. Would we have been better to spend the 100 mill on players for he first team, after all Belvoir Drive is hardly the pits

I cant disagree with this post enough.

 

Belvoir drive is a good facility, but not sufficient for a club, with the ambitions that Leicester are have.