Guest Col city fan Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 36 minutes ago, NasPb said: Amartey is a good backup especially when we're playing in a back three, nothing more nothing less. But he should be used as a RCB. There are better options than him but he's good backup. This argument has been used over and over again. Whether he’s ‘4th choice or 5th choice’ or whatever bloody choice, Dan Amartey is not a Premiership standard defender. We’ve seen it time and time again, when under pressure he panics and makes stupid errors. I don’t give a monkeys toss if he threw a flag or if he’s a ‘nice guy’ or somebody’s cult hero. The fact of the matter is we don’t have a strong enough defence (backed up by all the stats by the way) to cope with the onslaught of quality players that reside in the Premiership. This isn’t only about Amartey. Evans is struggling, God knows what’s going on with Soyuncu and Vestergaard is probably worse than all of them! I think this MUST be sorted or we will just concede too many goals to stay in the division.
An Sionnach Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 4 minutes ago, Col city fan said: This argument has been used over and over again. Whether he’s ‘4th choice or 5th choice’ or whatever bloody choice, Dan Amartey is not a Premiership standard defender. We’ve seen it time and time again, when under pressure he panics and makes stupid errors. I don’t give a monkeys toss if he threw a flag or if he’s a ‘nice guy’ or somebody’s cult hero. The fact of the matter is we don’t have a strong enough defence (backed up by all the stats by the way) to cope with the onslaught of quality players that reside in the Premiership. This isn’t only about Amartey. Evans is struggling, God knows what’s going on with Soyuncu and Vestergaard is probably worse than all of them! I think this MUST be sorted or we will just concede too many goals to stay in the division. Your argument is a strong one based on all the stats but we just have not got the money to do much about it. Highly frustrating I know but it is what it is.
tsintskaro Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Col city fan said: This argument has been used over and over again. Whether he’s ‘4th choice or 5th choice’ or whatever bloody choice, Dan Amartey is not a Premiership standard defender. We’ve seen it time and time again, when under pressure he panics and makes stupid errors. yeah i dont get the logic behind good backup choice good backup choice is young player, who is still not established and needs guidance Good backup choice is not the guy who makes 3 errors that lead to goal in 4 matches and if you let him sit on the bench he will still be crap backup choice, but with less game time, but still crap Edited 30 August 2022 by tsintskaro
NasPb Posted 30 August 2022 Author Posted 30 August 2022 I think the whole team especially the defense is out of form due to Rodgers, it's not just amartey. Last year he showed he's a decent back up
Guest Col city fan Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 24 minutes ago, NasPb said: I think the whole team especially the defense is out of form due to Rodgers, it's not just amartey. Last year he showed he's a decent back up I think the general consensus is that Amartey shouldn’t be in the first team and that Rodgers is playing him in the first team when he shouldn’t do. This is part of a bigger picture of selling Fofana and not yet recruiting better quality CB’s. If this continues and we don’t reinforce that area of the team, we’ll have to rely on Evans, Cags, Big Dan and Vestie for the foreseeable. A daunting prospect imo. People bang on about a right winger. I’ve long felt that it’s our defence that needs money spending first and foremost. And that’s ABSOLUTELY borne out in the stats.
Tommy Fresh Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 54 minutes ago, NasPb said: I think the whole team especially the defense is out of form due to Rodgers, it's not just amartey. Last year he showed he's a decent back up You're wasting your time mate, everyone is aware he should be 4th or 5th choice it's just some posters think all 4 or 5 options should be of Fofana or Evans standard and expect players of that standard to be happy as squad players. 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 1 hour ago, tsintskaro said: yeah i dont get the logic behind good backup choice good backup choice is young player, who is still not established and needs guidance Good backup choice is not the guy who makes 3 errors that lead to goal in 4 matches and if you let him sit on the bench he will still be crap backup choice, but with less game time, but still crap A young lad would make mistakes if he's at the stage where he needs guidance, and everyone would just slaughter him and also Rodgers for picking a lad not ready.
Jimmy Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 I've thought Wilf will end up at CB for a while, with Soumare back in the fold play Wilf with Evans
UHDrive Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 Amartey should've been sold years ago and this thread closed with him.
Dames Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 13 minutes ago, UHDrive said: Amartey should've been sold years ago and this thread closed with him. Nobody at all wants to buy him. He’ll end up in the Championship on a free when his contract runs out here. 1
BKLFox Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 I see stats are being ignored again when they don’t fit the mob mentality 1
cruzFOX Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 Rogers has to take him out of the firing line. He is not going to get better every week making the same mistakes and conceding goals. Give big Dan a break and put Cags on but keep him on a tight leash 2
Popular Post ParkerPen Posted 30 August 2022 Popular Post Posted 30 August 2022 we are Leicester City, not Man City, our 4th / 5th choice CB is always gonna be ropey. 6
turtmcfly Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 15 minutes ago, cruzFOX said: Rogers has to take him out of the firing line. He is not going to get better every week making the same mistakes and conceding goals. Give big Dan a break and put Cags on but keep him on a tight leash No idea what a 'keep him on a tight leash' means, but otherwise I'm down with Mr No Mistakes Hardly Ever Passes Forward Oooh He's A Quality Just Needs More Game Time Brendansacuntinnit 41 Games Last Year I Did Not Know That Why Does No-one Want To Buy Him replacing Daniel Amartey as an absolute season-changer
Facecloth Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 34 minutes ago, ParkerPen said: we are Leicester City, not Man City, our 4th / 5th choice CB is always gonna be ropey. Exactly, our issue isn't that he's our 4th choice centre back, it's that he's somehow become first choice under Rodgers. 3
somebum Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 Amartey fits the Rodgers model of OBEDIENT WORKERS hence his inclusion in the team 1
hejammy Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 Well that's a first for me. Recieve all 4 emoticons for one post! Kinda sums up Amartey really, you like the guy, you have to thank the guy otherwise God knows who BR would play, he makes you cry and he makes you laugh. 4
coolhandfox Posted 30 August 2022 Posted 30 August 2022 6 hours ago, ParkerPen said: we are Leicester City, not Man City, our 4th / 5th choice CB is always gonna be ropey. The problem is we are using him as first choice.
Rawlings Posted 18 September 2022 Posted 18 September 2022 On 30/08/2022 at 13:34, Sly said: Has he gone yet? He left (=on the bench) for 3 games and the defence is twice as terrible Without Big Dan, the defence let in 12 goals in 3 games, i.e. an average of 4 goals/game When he was playing,- the defence let in 7 goals in 3 games, an avarege of 2.3 goals/game Both stats are no good, but Big Dan was never the problem. He's just the easiast target 2
Claridge Posted 18 September 2022 Posted 18 September 2022 1 minute ago, Rawlings said: He left (=on the bench) for 3 games and the defence is twice as terrible Without Big Dan, the defence let in 12 goals in 3 games, i.e. an average of 4 goals/game When he was playing,- the defence let in 7 goals in 3 games, an avarege of 2.3 goals/game Both stats are no good, but Big Dan was never the problem. He's just the easiast target Try him centre mid, much better than Wilf at the moment
Rawlings Posted 18 September 2022 Posted 18 September 2022 Just now, Claridge said: Try him centre mid, much better than Wilf at the moment He was never a defender. He was converted to a defender from a defensive midfileder
Claridge Posted 18 September 2022 Posted 18 September 2022 Just now, Rawlings said: He was never a defender. He was converted to a defender from a defensive midfileder Got to be worth a try, his passing is poor, but at least he would put a shift in
Rawlings Posted 18 September 2022 Posted 18 September 2022 Just now, Claridge said: Got to be worth a try, his passing is poor, but at least he would put a shift in That's a myth! This is what I mean by he's the easiest target His passing has improved a lot. He succesfully completed 96% in the last full game he played SOURCE: https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1640708/Live/England-Premier-League-2022-2023-Chelsea-Leicester
shiv Posted 18 September 2022 Posted 18 September 2022 9 minutes ago, Rawlings said: He left (=on the bench) for 3 games and the defence is twice as terrible Without Big Dan, the defence let in 12 goals in 3 games, i.e. an average of 4 goals/game When he was playing,- the defence let in 7 goals in 3 games, an avarege of 2.3 goals/game Both stats are no good, but Big Dan was never the problem. He's just the easiast target Evans has been a liability in the last few games
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