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Posted
27 minutes ago, hejammy said:

Left backs against us are coming up against arguably the best player in the division in Fatawu, even then a lot done relatively OK. If Thomas came up against Fatawu or someone of that standard he'd be a deer in the headlights, like he was against Coventry but worse. 

 

 

Other teams have done well against Fatawu and Mav/Monga because their LB (RB) are not isolated 1 on 1 they double even triple up on Fatawu, Thomas doesn’t have the luxury of defending in a pair/throuple.

His positioning is a lot better than it was, he is making more interceptions and clearances & writing this I can’t think of a goal directly relating to this, the main issue is pace and you can’t really fix that.
If isolated 1 on 1 with a speedy winger which he has been he’ll get pulled apart but he can’t fix that only Marti can with ensuring he’s backed up against a speedy winger & currently Marti doesn’t see it as an issue as we haven’t been conceding time after time directly due to Thomas 🤷‍♂️ 

Posted

Thomas is solid, but we should be looking to improve on him either in Jan or Summer, assuming we want to get back to the Prem. If we're chill being a mid table Champ team then he'll be fine as first choice. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Heart-Shaped Fox said:

Just think he's very average. Mid table Championship. 

 

Doesn't bomb on, no right foot, physically not amazing. Probably not got a better option than him though at the moment 

Could have posted similar about Danny Simpson 10 years ago.

 

In a fully functioning team, Thomas would be absolutely fine for where we are now.

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He struggles more often than not. I’m not overly concerned with him in the team but, without giving away a goal, he has been one of the weaker players in the team. See Cov where he struggled. He was also blind to a ball in behind v Swansea. 
 

However, as someone else had said, he isn’t our biggest problem this season, could play the season and we still acheive our goals.

 

Cant understand why we felt he would offer something for a few more years though

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He looked refreshed and more mature when he came in at the back end of last season. But for some reason this season, he's looked even more timid and lacking in confidence than before 

Posted
48 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

We have no reliable striker and Ayew, Soumaré and Skipp are still getting consistent minutes. 

 

I'd say Thomas is the least of our problems. 

 

We could comfortably get promoted with our current back four if we were an actual attacking threat at the other end of the pitch tbh. 

 

Oh yeah if we had a Prem midfield and attack then we'd probably go up comfortably.

Posted
49 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

We have no reliable striker and Ayew, Soumaré and Skipp are still getting consistent minutes. 

 

I'd say Thomas is the least of our problems. 

 

We could comfortably get promoted with our current back four if we were an actual attacking threat at the other end of the pitch tbh. 

 

Indeed. You're defenders don't need to be great if most of the football is happening in the opposition half.

Posted
2 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Oh yeah if we had a Prem midfield and attack then we'd probably go up comfortably.

 

I'm confused by whether or not this is an extremely sassy strawman or an innocently weird post. 

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I'm confused by whether or not this is an extremely sassy strawman or an innocently weird post. 

 

Always sassy, sorry lol

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Dickov22 said:

His positioning and lack of pace here is diabolical. How anyone can say he’s a good player at this level is beyond me 

Genuinely interested to learn here. What should have done to prevent this tactically?

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6 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Always sassy, sorry lol

 

 

I mean I figured but even adjusting for hyperbole it's a bit of a silly response, isn't it? 

 

We pretty obviously have significant squad building challenges that are much bigger priorities than Thomas. 

 

You can carry a few mediocre players in lower impact positions and still perform well in the league. 

 

History is littered with far more teams that won things despite having an average, mid table full back than they are succesful teams that didn't have any recognised quality goal scorers. 

 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I mean I figured but even adjusting for hyperbole it's a bit of a silly response, isn't it? 

 

We pretty obviously have significant squad building challenges that are much bigger priorities than Thomas. 

 

You can carry a few mediocre players in lower impact positions and still perform well in the league. 

 

History is littered with far more teams that won things despite having an average, mid table full back than they are succesful teams that didn't have any recognised quality goal scorers. 

 

Well yeah, I'm just in the Luke Thomas thread so that's why I'm discussing him and not the other issues in the squad. He's a steady champ player and not a Prem player. So if we have Premier league ambitions, he ideally isn't going to be our starting left back if we're looking to go up.

 

Seems fair to me.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Thomas is solid, but we should be looking to improve on him either in Jan or Summer, assuming we want to get back to the Prem. If we're chill being a mid table Champ team then he'll be fine as first choice. 


 

we should always be up for improving our team. Everyone is replaceable. But if funds are limited, he’s way way down the list of priorities..if we get promoted, then maybe the funds will be available to improve him then.

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Posted
31 minutes ago, Dickov22 said:

His positioning and lack of pace here is diabolical. How anyone can say he’s a good player at this level is beyond me 

So is the assumption that fullbacks will never, ever get beaten by a good pass? Even the very best at the top clubs will do. 

 

What I Iove about that clip is that Luke chases him down to push the attacker to cross quickly, and the cross goes through Vestergaards legs. If Vestergaard deals with that then Jakub doesn't have to make the save.

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4 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

So is the assumption that fullbacks will never, ever get beaten by a good pass? Even the very best at the top clubs will do. 

 

What I Iove about that clip is that Luke chases him down to push the attacker to cross quickly, and the cross goes through Vestergaards legs. If Vestergaard deals with that then Jakub doesn't have to make the save.

Faes is touch tight with the guy that gets the shot in at the start of the clip. Completely loses track of him haha

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Posted
2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

A deer in headlights like he was on more than 1 occasion when he kept Salah quiet? 
 

You’re changing the goalposts. You indicated there were 20 better left back/sides he wouldn’t get into. Now you’re giving others a pass because they haven’t been against Fatawu! 
 

He’s an ok championship player. No great, not awful and relegation/league 1 standard. 
 

I can’t stand when people make atupid exaggerated comments to fit agendas against certain players.

Come on Salah and FA cup is that all you have? 

How have I changed goalposts? I said that the other left backs even when faced with a player like Fatawu hadn't done too badly. Thomas facing Fatawu would get absolutely destroyed. 

I think perhaps your the one with blue tinted specs using the FA cup and Salah to fit your agenda, I've been consistent. He's not a very good player. I've got nothing against him, I like his attitude, the fact he's from leicester and no issues with his effort. Stating that he's possibly one of the worst starting 11 LBs in the league in terms of ability, may be arguable but hardly "stupidly exaggerated" 

Posted
50 minutes ago, Dickov22 said:

His positioning and lack of pace here is diabolical. How anyone can say he’s a good player at this level is beyond me 

By my memory, this was the only time he was beat throughout the game. 

 

It's a good pass and the forward has momentum. I don't think his positioning is wrong tbh, sometimes forwards get the better of defenders. If he was faster, sure he could have been closer. But he kept going and didn't slide in and give away a penalty. 

 

If you wanna be really picky, I'd say monga should have been squarer so that pass couldn't be made and vestergard should have dealt with the cross. 

 

But back to my point, if that's the only time he's beaten by the attacker all game, he's not done too bad. 

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Posted
57 minutes ago, Dickov22 said:

His positioning and lack of pace here is diabolical. How anyone can say he’s a good player at this level is beyond me 

Thomas is fine in this clip, he was supporting Monga with the fullback and trying to cover the winger.

 

The space that the pass is made into should be covered by Vestergaard or Winks, neither are offering anything defensively in this clip. Faes as well is at fault for losing his man.

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Posted
1 hour ago, hejammy said:

Come on Salah and FA cup is that all you have? 

How have I changed goalposts? I said that the other left backs even when faced with a player like Fatawu hadn't done too badly. Thomas facing Fatawu would get absolutely destroyed. 

I think perhaps your the one with blue tinted specs using the FA cup and Salah to fit your agenda, I've been consistent. He's not a very good player. I've got nothing against him, I like his attitude, the fact he's from leicester and no issues with his effort. Stating that he's possibly one of the worst starting 11 LBs in the league in terms of ability, may be arguable but hardly "stupidly exaggerated" 

How the hell do you know Thomas would get destroyed against Fatawu lol. It’s not evidence based, just negativity based on your clear agenda against Thomas.

 

How have I got blue tinted specs on? I have said he is average, but that he is an ok Championship player and no more no less. I have said there are not 20 sides he wouldn’t get into in this league. If you disagree then it’s up to you to evidence which 20 sides he wouldn’t get into if he is rubbish enough to be no more than relegation standard in this league or League 1.

 

As for the Salah comment, you said he would get absolutely destroyed by Fatawu being the best right winger in this league but apparently the rest of the left backs in this league do a great job on him (without any evidence). But an example of when Thomas has done well against the best right winger (at the time) in the PL is suiting my agenda?

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