Popular Post foxfanazer Posted 20 November 2021 Popular Post Posted 20 November 2021 One trick pony. Has no idea how to change things despite our problems being glaringly obvious. This group of players needs a new voice to listen to 7
An Sionnach Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 6 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Entitlement. Is it? People are pissed off at the same thing week in week out. We're not Burnley punching above our weight spending little money (by the way they got a draw at Stamford Bridge last week), we have spent money this summer, we have invested in a new training ground and ground expansion, I am always told we have great owners, a great manager and great squad.... with all that comes expectation, not entitlement. Nobody turned up today expecting us to beat Chelsea. However it's the same thing week in week out, conceding the same goals, and Rodgers doesn't seem to know how to fix it (at the minute). There are problems of course there are but what we got away with once we don't now. Other teams will always try to nullify our strengths and exploit our weaknesses. We have been worked out. Rodgers has been eulogised on here by the same posters who now want him sacked. I have always thought he has been overpraised by too many on here and in the media but he is a good manager nevertheless. He cannot play the match for his team , they have to go out and take responsibility , they are not automatons. Leadership on the field is lacking , we need a new strong captain and Kasper should stand down. 2
Chrysalis Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 33 minutes ago, Fox92 said: It's weird, he just seems like he's got to a point where he doesn't know what to do. I've always criticized his subs but they're just so similar every week now. As for defending set pieces, it's the same thing, we know what's gonna happen every week now. Most managers eventually reach the end of their cycle.
StanSP Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 34 minutes ago, Fox92 said: I've always criticized his subs but they're just so similar every week now. Are they? I'm glad he brought Maddison and iheanacho on at HT today. Did what was needed but ultimately still not enough because a lot of the damage was done first half. I don't buy in to the 'planned subs' thing. Will be interesting to see what the actual 'stats" are for when he makes subs (and which ones they are) and if they go along with the concensus these days.
VictorFox Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 I think whoever we appoint can’t do any worse than him at the moment, he’s lost the players and he’s lost the fans.Come on United come get him 3
Popular Post Matt Posted 20 November 2021 Popular Post Posted 20 November 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: There are problems of course there are but what we got away with once we don't now. Other teams will always try to nullify our strengths and exploit our weaknesses. We have been worked out. Rodgers has been eulogised on here by the same posters who now want him sacked. I have always thought he has been overpraised by too many on here and in the media but he is a good manager nevertheless. He cannot play the match for his team , they have to go out and take responsibility , they are not automatons. Leadership on the field is lacking , we need a new strong captain and Kasper should stand down. So we were "worked out" after our title winning season of which we immediately ripped up and went for this tippy tappy, dreary, negative style, that's by the by, we've had that discussion of "it's not sustainable" e.t.c, that's a separate debate however you claim we've been "worked out", again, despite 90% of teams playing this godawful style, you also mention we're "transitioning" in a previous post - We seem to have been "transitioning" for the past 4 maybe 5 seasons and in terms of play, excitment, we're no further forward since the day we started it as far as i'm concerned. Why does it seem we always get "worked out" or "found out"? No other teams seem to. Certainly no where near as easy as we seem to anyway. How can a team "transition" for so long but just keep treading water in terms of play? These just seem like buzzwords bordering on cliches. You're quite correct, he cannot play matches for his team, sometimes players have to take some responsibility, however, he can can look at what players he's got, look at their strengths and play to those strengths, adapting game by game. He hasn't, He doesn't. Edited 20 November 2021 by Matt 4 3
Popular Post SecretPro Posted 20 November 2021 Popular Post Posted 20 November 2021 I think coming out as a manager and saying that we've over achieved for 2 years is pretty horrible and negative to be fair. Basically tells the players not to bother about the result because we are not as good as we think and we shouldn't win anything. If we are underachieving, we are underachieving and some acknowledgement of that would go a long way. 23 1
lcfc_forever Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 I think there has been more than a sense of entitlement among the fans attending. I recall how disappointing the atmosphere was in the Spurs game at the end of last season, and the reactionary booing this season as well. That said, when your team has an expected goals of 0.00 in the first half and concede yet again another goal from a set piece, then you can fully understand the booing this time. The reasons for our indifferent form are many and varied - the poor defending from set pieces, the number of injuries, in particular the psychological impact of Fofana’s injury, Rodgers making too many charges, the disappointing signings of Vestergaard and Bertrand, some players thinking they’ve reached their peak here leading to complacency, the number of contracts expiring in 2023 creating more uncertainty etc. What frustrates me more than anything is the woeful defending from set pieces. It cost us a CL spot last season and you’d have expected us to have focused on addressing this weakness, potentially bringing in a specialist set piece coach. Instead, we appear to be getting worse. From what I’ve read, teams generally don’t like practising set pieces, and given Rodgers is more of a purist, preferring to beat teams through better play (as shown by his stubbornness vs West Ham), you can imagine him being reluctant to focus on them. But it’s costing him hugely and at least he acknowledged it as a problem today. Set pieces are about organisation, attitude and practice - all things that can be improved and managed much more easily than playing style. When Liverpool and Chelsea focus on set pieces so much, it beggars belief we haven’t done more to sort this. I’m a big fan of Rodgers but not sorting the set piece problem is raising big questions as it’s something that can be coached more easily than other parts of the game, 1
An Sionnach Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 15 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: How long you been a fan for? My first match was Oct. 1954. I was 6 years old. 1
Guest Dirkster the Fox Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 5 minutes ago, Chrysalis said: Most managers eventually reach the end of their cycle. Doesn't seem like Dyche has reached an end cycle after 8 years (into his 9th) at Burnley. Just imagine what he could do with a full team of talented players........
WalMelton Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 30 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Brendan Rodgers blasts Leicester fans for booing his side after a resounding 3-0 home defeat by Chelsea as he claims supporters' negativity can cause 'anxiety' so can watching them Well the five of us who do 120 mile round trip every home game have decided not to bother on Thursday after another no show . happy to take the hit on ticket money. Plus side got someone to take two Villa away tickets off my hands. Best result of day…👍👍
filbertway Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 2 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: I think there has been more than a sense of entitlement among the fans attending. I recall how disappointing the atmosphere was in the Spurs game at the end of last season, and the reactionary booing this season as well. That said, when your team has an expected goals of 0.00 in the first half and concede yet again another goal from a set piece, then you can fully understand the booing this time. The reasons for our indifferent form are many and varied - the poor defending from set pieces, the number of injuries, in particular the psychological impact of Fofana’s injury, Rodgers making too many charges, the disappointing signings of Vestergaard and Bertrand, some players thinking they’ve reached their peak here leading to complacency, the number of contracts expiring in 2023 creating more uncertainty etc. What frustrates me more than anything is the woeful defending from set pieces. It cost us a CL spot last season and you’d have expected us to have focused on addressing this weakness, potentially bringing in a specialist set piece coach. Instead, we appear to be getting worse. From what I’ve read, teams generally don’t like practising set pieces, and given Rodgers is more of a purist, preferring to beat teams through better play (as shown by his stubbornness vs West Ham), you can imagine him being reluctant to focus on them. But it’s costing him hugely and at least he acknowledged it as a problem today. Set pieces are about organisation, attitude and practice - all things that can be improved and managed much more easily than playing style. When Liverpool and Chelsea focus on set pieces so much, it beggars belief we haven’t done more to sort this. I’m a big fan of Rodgers but not sorting the set piece problem is raising big questions as it’s something that can be coached more easily than other parts of the game, The game we lost against a team that had nothing to play for in a must win game, that we were comfortable in. People were upset? Shocking 2
Scotch Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 4 minutes ago, lcfc_forever said: I think there has been more than a sense of entitlement among the fans attending. I recall how disappointing the atmosphere was in the Spurs game at the end of last season, and the reactionary booing this season as well. That said, when your team has an expected goals of 0.00 in the first half and concede yet again another goal from a set piece, then you can fully understand the booing this time. The reasons for our indifferent form are many and varied - the poor defending from set pieces, the number of injuries, in particular the psychological impact of Fofana’s injury, Rodgers making too many charges, the disappointing signings of Vestergaard and Bertrand, some players thinking they’ve reached their peak here leading to complacency, the number of contracts expiring in 2023 creating more uncertainty etc. What frustrates me more than anything is the woeful defending from set pieces. It cost us a CL spot last season and you’d have expected us to have focused on addressing this weakness, potentially bringing in a specialist set piece coach. Instead, we appear to be getting worse. From what I’ve read, teams generally don’t like practising set pieces, and given Rodgers is more of a purist, preferring to beat teams through better play (as shown by his stubbornness vs West Ham), you can imagine him being reluctant to focus on them. But it’s costing him hugely and at least he acknowledged it as a problem today. Set pieces are about organisation, attitude and practice - all things that can be improved and managed much more easily than playing style. When Liverpool and Chelsea focus on set pieces so much, it beggars belief we haven’t done more to sort this. I’m a big fan of Rodgers but not sorting the set piece problem is raising big questions as it’s something that can be coached more easily than other parts of the game, Absolutely spot on. It is beyond belief that we've not tried something different in what? 2 years of being dreadful in this area. Even if it was as simple as, putting men on the post and going man for man.... atleast TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 1
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 Today he's excuse is Chelsea have better players than us, seems like he expected us to lose and that negative attitude passed on the the players 1
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 The problem I’ve got with with Brendan is not specifically linked to where we currently sit in the table. It’s that the same mistakes we see under him keep happening. It’s the mistakes which when repeated nearly every game makes them unforgivable. The lack of organisation. The lack of set piece development. The games where we just collapse. The collapse at Bournemouth. That sort of performance should’ve never have happened again. It did. See Newcs last season, West Ham this. Even Spurs last season was a collapse. The defending at corners. 2 1/2 years of hiding behind the sofa whenever we concede a corner. No change. A bad run of bad form and once that rut sets in, there is no getting out of it - unless the season ends of course. No change. We are now seeing slow starts - forget the opposition. It’s not just Chelsea who ran us around for 25-30 mins. So did Brentford and Brighton. No change. There have been undoubtedly great things under Brendan but too often he buckles. His choice of tactics today was ridiculous. His tactics in the Europa against Slavia last season which he repeated against Spartak this year. It’s mistakes which are now becoming habits. Yeah, he’s done great and some will tell me I’m one of the “entitled” ones but the feeling this week was not great. International break and I spent all week thinking Saturday is going to be shit. Hell, I felt I gave up before we kicked a ball, god knows what the team/management are feeling. It’s not a good watch too often being a Leicester fan. Yes, I watched us under Levein and Pleat. Yes, I watched us in League One. Yes I saw the utter clueless rubbish under Taylor. Yes, I know where we’ve come from. That isn’t us now. I’m not ashamed to admit I want to be entertained, I want some success. I want teams to leave the KP feeling they’ve had a game. So if I’m “entitled” fine. But some of these continuous mistakes, I wouldn’t accept as a League One Leicester fan.
danhaw Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 This is the 1st proper dip in form we've seen in the nearly 3 years he's been here and "fans" are calling for his head. 2 5th place finishes, our 1st ever fa cup win, incredible talent in the squad and all of the above with injuries running through the squad left right and centre. To call for his head is embarrassing 1
lcfc_forever Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 5 minutes ago, filbertway said: The game we lost against a team that had nothing to play for in a must win game, that we were comfortable in. People were upset? Shocking Nah, was more referring to the lack of noise during the game, even when we were winning, rather than the disappointment at the end of the game. First time our fans were back in the ground for some time in such a crucial game and the atmosphere wasn’t as good as you would have hoped.
yorkie1999 Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 (edited) Gotta be bad when even Man Utd say they’re not interested in Rodgers, they’d take anyone Edited 20 November 2021 by yorkie1999
CyprusFox Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 21 minutes ago, An Sionnach said: There are problems of course there are but what we got away with once we don't now. Other teams will always try to nullify our strengths and exploit our weaknesses. We have been worked out. Rodgers has been eulogised on here by the same posters who now want him sacked. I have always thought he has been overpraised by too many on here and in the media but he is a good manager nevertheless. He cannot play the match for his team , they have to go out and take responsibility , they are not automatons. Leadership on the field is lacking , we need a new strong captain and Kasper should stand down. Like who? 1
HybridFox Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 2 minutes ago, CrispinLA in Texas said: Today he's excuse is Chelsea have better players than us, seems like he expected us to lose and that negative attitude passed on the the players Same players we got 2 wins against last year and a Perez sitter away from drawing the third! 2
filbertway Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 1 minute ago, lcfc_forever said: Nah, was more referring to the lack of noise during the game, even when we were winning, rather than the disappointment at the end of the game. First time our fans were back in the ground for some time in such a crucial game and the atmosphere wasn’t as good as you would have hoped. Haha thats fair, tough to expect much of a set of 60-100 year olde 1
Guest ttfn Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 1 minute ago, lcfc_forever said: Nah, was more referring to the lack of noise during the game, even when we were winning, rather than the disappointment at the end of the game. First time our fans were back in the ground for some time in such a crucial game and the atmosphere wasn’t as good as you would have hoped. Is that not largely linked to the way the ticketing was done? I don’t disagree the atmosphere seemed crap but it doesn’t help when you effectively disqualify 6,000 of your most passionate supporters from attending because they’ve been to the Cup Final. Obviously that was a difficult call to make but it wouldn’t have helped.
splinterdream Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 18 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: I actually would like Dyche Dyche would be no more of a gamble than Lampard, Potter or any others mentioned. Dyche clearly knows how to organise a team and work on a budget, what could he do with a larger budget and better facilities? Who knows. I think for some, his face doesn't fit which I get, but he isn't a bad manager, I think he could do a good job here, just not sure if he could attract the more attractive players we want. At present his reputation is like big Sam, dependable, knows how to organise a team but would you believe he could take the club to the next level
Sir Shep Posted 20 November 2021 Posted 20 November 2021 Can see it now, the hope that Man U come in for Rogers, followed by the outrage if Man U came in for Rogers!
Popular Post Matt Posted 20 November 2021 Popular Post Posted 20 November 2021 2 minutes ago, danhaw said: This is the 1st proper dip in form we've seen in the nearly 3 years he's been here and "fans" are calling for his head. 2 5th place finishes, our 1st ever fa cup win, incredible talent in the squad and all of the above with injuries running through the squad left right and centre. To call for his head is embarrassing You missed January to May in 2020 and January 2021 continuing ever since then? 5
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