Premier League 2021/22 Thread

[Spudulike]

1 hour ago, Guest said:

They don't, nor do we. Lots of Leicester fans grew up/live outside of Leicester and talk about football with people who don't support Leicester. I've never lived in Leicester and if I mentioned 'City' to my friends or someone I was meeting for the first time they would assume I meant Man City, in the same way that if I mentioned 'Rooney' they would assume I meant Wayne and not his brother John. 

 

It's not exactly great etiquette to jump on every post you see where someone uses 'City' to mean something other than what you use it to mean. I dread to think what your response is when the chants of "come on Leicester" go up at the King Power - "why are you singing about the rugby team, you fools?!"

I would suggest that if you mention 'City' (or more commonly The City, perhaps that's the difference?) in Leicester or Leicestershire than I'd say the majority will assume you are referring to Leicester City. I'd say the same for the majority on Foxes Talk. 

 

I personally would not refer to our club simply as 'City' when elsewhere or in the presence of fans of other clubs, in particular fans of other City clubs. I would hope that fans of the Manchester club would show me the same courtesy. 

[Vlad the Fox]

1 hour ago, Raw Dykes said:

On top of that, you can't call Manchester City just 'Manchester' for obvious reasons. You can call us just 'Leicester,' though, as we're a one club city. And no, no-one's going to think you mean the Tigers.

Im sure I’ve heard/read somewhere that it really rankles with the Man City ownership that man u pretty much own the “manchester” title, if so it’ll be ammusing to omit manchester from any connection with them just to piss them off (aka notts forest), but to be honest you don’t come across many man city fans anyway so that’s one avenue of tedious joy deprived me.
 

Regarding the City debate I often refer to us as City and assume the people who I’m talking to know I’m referring to Leicester as I’m a Leicester fan, the same as I would a bristol city fan, or cardiff, norwich etc. It’s never caused any confusion. Talking to a stranger I’ll say Leicester to avoid any confusion as to which city I support but will probably refer to us as City afterwards. 

[Bob Farley]

We can share the term city, how about that. Everyone take a deep breath. 

[TAFKA Castroneves]

Heres what’s interesting to me about the whole Kane discussion - and I wish I could find a YouTube clip to show you guys what I mean from All or Nothing - but I’ve had a look and it doesn’t seem to be out there. The moment when he sits on his own in that team meeting, drops his head and says, “it’s not good enough” - he’s decided he’s doing enough and perhaps he is in most people’s minds - id argue different from what other players have shown. 

 

When it comes to mentality Sir Alex Ferguson always said Ronaldo and Rooney when they were at United for pure footballing quality were identical - the difference was Ronaldo was Uber focused, he’d constantly work and work and lead by a strong example, building those up around him (remember when he literally carried Portugal to a Euros a few years back? After playing a full season of 50+ games?) Rooney on the other hand was a top player who didn’t go that extra mile, he felt he was good enough - there was a mentality difference. Ronaldo will always strive to be better. 

 

From what we know as City fans - Vardy has that same quality, he’s worked from the bottom up, he’s never felt entitled to anything - because he also came from nothing. He will beat himself up if he makes one little mistake. Perhaps that’s why when our lads have gone through tricky spells we’ve still pushed on and achieved phenomenal things. Vardy will make sure he’s building the lads up, not sit there and go, “it’s not good enough - I’m doing enough”

 

Kane (for me again and I can understand completely if you disagree as that’s your opinion and it’s got rather emotive 😂) isn’t that in the slightest, he knows he’s good - he felt owed by his team mates to win things, why not inspire them than get upset? Ironically you could see in All Or Nothing Spurs why Dier was picked so much under Mourinho, he wasn’t the best but he would fight and challenge those who acted like Kane - Alli for example who’s got the ability to be one of the best in the world - but he’s not got that mental edge.

 

With that being said is that why Kane said he wanted to leave this summer? Because he’s given enough? I didn’t see Vardy run to Arsenal when he could have 🤷‍♂️  he loves the challenge here and also luckily for us feels like he owes us in some degree because of us supporting him along the way - have Tottenham not done that their end with Kane from being a youth player - to a guy on over $100k a week? 

 

Tottenham two years ago had a better squad than we did, that’s a fact - but when you’ve got that footballing quality as he does - you need to look at yourself in the mirror and make sure you are approaching things in the right way as a leader to be one of the best. I genuinely don’t think he’s got that in him - as Rooney didn’t - Sir Alex was right.

 

in closing that doesn’t mean Kane’s not a good signing for City - for 160 million I think they are bonkers for not going for Haaland instead - but he will score goals. But what happens when they reach a champions league final again next year and are knackered and come up against a Ronaldo type? They lose again... 🤷‍♂️ 

[Nalis]

6 hours ago, Vlad the Fox said:

Im sure I’ve heard/read somewhere that it really rankles with the Man City ownership that man u pretty much own the “manchester” title, if so it’ll be ammusing to omit manchester from any connection with them just to piss them off (aka notts forest), but to be honest you don’t come across many man city fans anyway so that’s one avenue of tedious joy deprived me.
 

Regarding the City debate I often refer to us as City and assume the people who I’m talking to know I’m referring to Leicester as I’m a Leicester fan, the same as I would a bristol city fan, or cardiff, norwich etc. It’s never caused any confusion. Talking to a stranger I’ll say Leicester to avoid any confusion as to which city I support but will probably refer to us as City afterwards. 

I guess its similar to Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid, or Inter Milan and AC Milan whereby when 99% of people say 'Madrid' or 'Milan', you know there are talking about Real Madrid and AC Milan respectively.

[Nalis]

On a random note, when someone mentions a player's international goal scoring record its a bit pointless to say ''yeah but have you seen who their goals were against?' when players for the top bracket of 10 or so countries probably only play another top band country like, once in 11 or 12 games? Case in point being Cristiano Ronaldo's International goal scoring record.

[Guest Manley Farrington-Brown]

9 hours ago, thursday_next said:

This doesn't have to do with Man City having a rich owner. It dates back a long way before that. Whether you like it or not, the Manchester clubs will always be known as City and United. I am happy with that.

I’m not.

And it hasn’t always been the case, either. Obviously in Manchester they’re referred to as ‘City’ and ‘United’ and always have been, which is fair enough. If you’re talking about football in Manchester that makes sense. But more widely they never used to be that. Always Man City and Man Utd (or Manchester City/United if you were being posh).

 

Even if they were the only City and United it shouldn’t happen. I don’t call Sheffield Wednesday ‘Wednesday’ - that’d be strange unless I supported them. Or if I was talking specifically about football in Sheffield, when ‘United’ and ‘Wednesday’ would become acceptable shorthand. And Plymouth fans might call them ‘Argyle’ but who else does?

 

And they’re not the only City and United, not by a long way.

 

TLDR: it’s wrong in every way unless you support them or are in Manchester, in which case it can be ok in limited circumstances.

[Guest Manley Farrington-Brown]

10 hours ago, Guest said:

I've never lived in Leicester and if I mentioned 'City' to my friends or someone I was meeting for the first time they would assume I meant Man City

Well they shouldn’t! Their correct response should be “Which City?”

And if Leicester fans did only use ‘City’ when in mixed company they’d be as presumptuous and/or lazy as Man City fans who do it. But we don’t, because we aren’t. And I bet you don’t, because you know that it would be either self-centred, rude, or confusing. Or any combination of those things.

 

Tbh though, I’m much more annoyed by people who don’t even support Man City doing it than by their actual fans.

[Guest Manley Farrington-Brown]

1 hour ago, Nalis said:

I guess its similar to Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid, or Inter Milan and AC Milan whereby when 99% of people say 'Madrid' or 'Milan', you know there are talking about Real Madrid and AC Milan respectively.

I’m not aware of people using just ‘Madrid’ - but if they do it sounds wrong to me.

Milan is a bit different. I think AC Milan are actually commonly known and referred to as ‘Milan.’  Inter are ‘Internazionale’ or ‘Inter’ for short. I think.

[urban.spaceman]

 

[RumbleFox]

Just woke up. Trying to imagine caring so much about whether some people call another team “city” on this forum but just can’t quite do it. Back to bed I think. X 

[Sydney_Blue]

6 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

Just woke up. Trying to imagine caring so much about whether some people call another team “city” on this forum but just can’t quite do it. Back to bed I think. X 

Plastic!

 

 

(Joking)

[FoyleFox]

7 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

Just woke up. Trying to imagine caring so much about whether some people call another team “city” on this forum but just can’t quite do it. Back to bed I think. X 

I was hoping by the time I woke up this had been put to bed. 

I don't see the issue, we're Citeh and they're City 

[st albans fox]

Way too many chips on shoulders ……yanited are yanited ….does that upset newcastle or Leeds fans ? 

Edited 24 July 2021 by st albans fox

[davieG]

The time when it bothered me was when you only had the radio and if Leicester were playing another City using the term City by the commentators did my head in. The biggest culprit used to be Neville Foulger who seemingly loved to refer to Cov as City when we played them.

[Vlad the Fox]

41 minutes ago, davieG said:

The time when it bothered me was when you only had the radio and if Leicester were playing another City using the term City by the commentators did my head in. The biggest culprit used to be Neville Foulger who seemingly loved to refer to Cov as City when we played them.

I seem to have a vague memory that after we won the league radio Leicester had him on and he mentioned he used to commentate on cov or report on them for their local rag. 

[Aus Fox]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Way too many chips on shoulders ……yanited are yanited ….does that upset newcastle or Leeds fans ? 

Not sure if you’re friends with any Leeds fans or not, but the few I have worked with, got to know over the years do not like it one bit when Man Utd are just called United.

Some say we are a touchy bunch, try meeting a Leeds fan.

[davieG]

7 minutes ago, Vlad the Fox said:

I seem to have a vague memory that after we won the league radio Leicester had him on and he mentioned he used to commentate on cov or report on them for their local rag. 

I think you're correct certainly there was some connection to Cov which made it hard for him to drop the 'City' reference when talking about them.

 

Was really bad on the radio because they don't tell you everything that's happening so you could have Leicester with the ball, then quiet and then 'city' attacking and nearly scoring, oooh!! could have done with scoring there, WTF it was Cov!!!

[Guest Manley Farrington-Brown]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Way too many chips on shoulders ……yanited are yanited ….does that upset newcastle or Leeds fans ? 

Probably. It certainly annoys me.

[Spudulike]

13 hours ago, thursday_next said:

There's a blindingly obvious reason why Manchester City are called City, and clubs like Leicester and Norwich and Stoke aren't. That's because Leicester and Norwich and Stoke are all one-club cities. You can try all you like to get other supporters to recognise this but by and large other supporters would consider this a outrageous waste of two syllables. Who refers to West Ham United? Wolverhampton Wanderers? Charlton Athletic? The only teams I can think of with City in their name and who have two-club cities are Bristol City and Cambridge City who play in the Isthmian North. Nobody refers to Bristol City as Bristol, and virtually no-one refers to Cambridge City at all.

 

This doesn't have to do with Man City having a rich owner. It dates back a long way before that. Whether you like it or not, the Manchester clubs will always be known as City and United. I am happy with that.  

The Manchester clubs are not always known as 'City' and 'United'. I come from a long line of Leicestrians and our club is known as 'The City'. I don't think my family is unusual (not in that way, any road). 

 

The use of 'City' as only referring to the Manchester one is a relatively recent phenomena, perpetuated by the same media that push the 'Big 6' narrative. 

 

Its just as easy to type ManC as it is to type City on Foxes Talk. Sometimes it's obvious which club is being referred to, sometimes not so much. Each to their own but it would save having this debate over and over. 

[thursday_next]

45 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

'Its just as easy to type ManC as it is to type City on Foxes Talk'

 

I have no problem with your suggestion, but I suggest you watch out for Zeus, who might condemn you to rolling a boulder up a hill in Hades for eternity  

[st albans fox]

OGS signs new deal to 2024+1

[foxile5]

50 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

OGS signs new deal to 2024+1

Three more years of not very much being won at United then. 

[Lambert09]

I know it doesn’t mean much but a few preseason results 

 

west ham beat Celtic 6-2 

 

Man U lost 4-2 to qpr

 

villa lost 2-0 to stoke 

 

Burnley beat oldham 2-0 

 

Palace beat Walsall 1-0 

 

derby lost 2-1 to salford....... oooh wait wrong thread 

Edited 24 July 2021 by Lambert09

[StanSP]

Just a friendly