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Development/Youth Squads 2021/2022 Thread

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ALC Fox

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1 hour ago, Foxes96 said:

Be interesting to see who goes out on loan in the summer. Reckon Madivadua, Maswanise, Braybrooke and Nelson are probably all ready for a loan. Same with leshabela, and Brunt if he’s going to make it at this level. 

 

Reckon they’ll probably want to keep Alves in the u23’s/ training with the firsts for another season at least. 

It's a difficult decision. Some players need loans and experience to see what they're made of. Others you just know are going to be the real deal so you keep them close and mould them to how you want them to play (like Man City did with Foden).

 

Finding the right loans will be difficult too. You don't want your brightest and best picking up bad habits or being influenced by bad coaching, or led astray by some shitty team-mates.

 

Which ones of this crop need regular lower league football and which ones can be fast-tracked into the first-team picture? There seems to be a lot that may just be able to make the step up.

Foxxed

Foxxed

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2 hours ago, Shane said:

Think Braybrooke & Alves will follow the same route as Luke Thomas & go straight into the first team squad next season instead of leaving on loan. They’re both incredible! 

 

Put them on the bench, give them some minutes in the first team, then they’ll surely attract some high profile loan interest if needed. They also need to be given new contracts.

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Foxes96

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9 hours ago, ALC Fox said:

It's a difficult decision. Some players need loans and experience to see what they're made of. Others you just know are going to be the real deal so you keep them close and mould them to how you want them to play (like Man City did with Foden).

 

Finding the right loans will be difficult too. You don't want your brightest and best picking up bad habits or being influenced by bad coaching, or led astray by some shitty team-mates.

 

Which ones of this crop need regular lower league football and which ones can be fast-tracked into the first-team picture? There seems to be a lot that may just be able to make the step up.

I agree and think Alves is that player. Rodgers has already said talent wise he is good enough, just needs to physically mature, but the lads only 16. So I think if anyone he will stick around the first team squad rather than going on loan.
 

Braybrooke’s another really talented young player but given his position think he would benefit more from a loan and learning the physical aspect of the game.

 

But all of the above seem to have bright futures. Just hope they can follow in the footsteps of Barnes, Chilwell, and KDH etc

Foxes96

Foxes96

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4 minutes ago, Micky said:

Alves is 17 btw.

Ffs is it too late to edit 🤦‍♂️
 

Edit: ignore me then wiki and transfermrkt  are saying different things 

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st albans fox

st albans fox

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Physicality is not necessarily age dependant 


whether alves is 16 and 11 months or 17 and 3 months makes no difference 

 

similar with braybrooke

 

until they get to 19 when they have to physically have matured enough if they’re going to make it as a pro within an academy system, it’s not hugely important. the club will manage their development from this perspective depending on their body and what’s best at this stage.  We may have to be patient but with special talent, it tends to find a way.  

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coolhandfox

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Rushing Alves and Braybrooke into the first team isn't necessarily the best thing for there development.

 

At this age they need to be playing as many minutes as possible at a challenging level, I'd imagine the u23 is that at the moment.

 

Lots of people called out Pep for holding Foden back, but it turned out the best for his development.

 

Must important part is to get them signed up on there first pro contracts 

 

 

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st albans fox

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29 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Rushing Alves and Braybrooke into the first team isn't necessarily the best thing for there development.

 

At this age they need to be playing as many minutes as possible at a challenging level, I'd imagine the u23 is that at the moment.

 

Lots of people called out Pep for holding Foden back, but it turned out the best for his development.

 

Must important part is to get them signed up on there first pro contracts 

 

The reality is that pep didn’t need foden and could manage his development within the context of Man City as a club.  He could do what was best for the player and the club in the long term without affecting the success of the club in the short term.  If these boys continue to develop then they will be fast tracked into first team action with more exposure than foden had. 

coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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8 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

The reality is that pep didn’t need foden and could manage his development within the context of Man City as a club.  

He could do what was best for the player and the club in the long term without affecting the success of the club in the short term.  

If these boys continue to develop then they will be fast tracked into first team action with more exposure than foden had. 

Some times you have to think a little more long term it can't always be short term. 

 

I think it more likely they will be drip feed in to the team then fast track at 16 and 17.

 

If we need to throw them in at that age for the club to be successful then we are in trouble.

 

 

Foxxed

Foxxed

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1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Rushing Alves and Braybrooke into the first team isn't necessarily the best thing for there development.

 

At this age they need to be playing as many minutes as possible at a challenging level, I'd imagine the u23 is that at the moment.

 

Lots of people called out Pep for holding Foden back, but it turned out the best for his development.

 

Must important part is to get them signed up on there first pro contracts 

 

 

With Braybrooke there I suspect we may win things in that league and the experience will be good for him. But he’s already surpassed that level imo. The only argument I can see if that he needs to wait until he grows physically. Alves needs more time in the u23s though for sure. But I think both will benefit from the odd 5 minutes in the first team alongside the u23s football.

 

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moore_94

moore_94

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Looking at an 18 year old striker currently playing for Mickleover FC - Same level as Coalville Town, tier below Vanarama North/South

 

https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-tottenham-leicester-city-and-nottingham-forest-in-race-to-sign-fin-barker-in-out-of-window-deal/

 

Sources: Tottenham, Leicester City and Nottingham Forest in race to sign Fin Barker in out-of-window deal

 

Tottenham and Leicester City are closely monitoring non-league striker sensation Fin Barker, Football Insider understands.

The rising star, 18, has caught the eye of scouts from clubs higher up the football pyramid after dazzling for Northern Premier League Premier Division side Mickleover FC.

A recruitment source has told Football Insider that Premier League duo Spurs and Leicester have been alerted to Barker’s potential and are plotting moves ahead of the summer.

The youngster’s progress is also being monitored by clubs in the Championship and Nottingham Forest have been keeping regular checks on him.

This could pave the way for an out-of-window transfer.

Premier League and EFL clubs are able to sign players from outside the professional leagues at any time of the year.

Barker has scored 18 goals for Mickleover so far this season after making his first-team debut in October.

The non-league club are aware of the growing interest in the teenager and are unlikely to stand in his way if his suitors decide to offer him a move into the professional ranks.

Tottenham and Leicester have the resources to make Barker an offer beyond the level of most Premier League clubs.

But a second-tier outfit like Forest could provide a quicker pathway to first-team football.

They also have one key asset in manager Steve Cooper, the former England age-group manager who has an impressive track record of developing and nurturing top young talents.

In other news, pundit delivers “absolutely huge” Tottenham verdict amid “toxic dressing room” claim.

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Ric Flair

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17 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Anyone know who these 2 players are in the background of the Thomas and Vestergaard photos? Not sure I recognise them

 

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/jannik-vestergaard-of-leicester-city-during-the-leicester-news-photo/1238189582

 

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/luke-thomas-of-leicester-city-during-the-leicester-city-news-photo/1238189388

Never seen them before either

coolhandfox

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51 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

With Braybrooke there I suspect we may win things in that league and the experience will be good for him. But he’s already surpassed that level imo. The only argument I can see if that he needs to wait until he grows physically. Alves needs more time in the u23s though for sure. But I think both will benefit from the odd 5 minutes in the first team alongside the u23s football.

 

As I said, drip feed them in, they are 16 and 17 time is on there side.

 

Early rounds of League and FA Cup games. 

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