Handball Law - Another Change

[davieG]

Deja Vue

 

A change to the handball law will be implemented in Euro 2020 ahead of a potential change for the 2021/22 Premier League season.

In the season just gone, handballs in the build-up to a goal, even if accidental, were penalised with the goal being disallowed.

After a number of incidents, the International Football Association Board (IFAB) announced a change to the rules meaning that accidental handballs will not be penalised.

The new rule was expected to come into effect at the start of July, but UEFA have now announced that the rule will be applied to the European Championships which start on June 11.

 

In a briefing, reported by BBC Sport, UEFA referee chief Roberto Rosetti also said there must be ‘clear evidence’ for officials to disallow a goal using the Video Assistant referee (VAR).
"Football is about controversial moments and it is not always easy to define the line of intervention for our VARs,” he said.

 

"We want clear evidence to disallow goals - that's it. For factual decisions we want interventions just if it's clear."

It was also reported back in March that IFAB are looking at potential changes to the offside rule, amid a number of close calls that have seen goals ruled out.

[Frank Large's Black Book]

Well that's clear then.........

[Spudulike]

If that was the case then why wasn't the Perez accidental handball penalised leading up to Tielemans goal at Wembley? 

[davieG]

1 minute ago, Spudulike said:

If that was the case then why wasn't the Perez accidental handball penalised leading up to Tielemans goal at Wembley? 

According to the Merc article

 

The handball law in its current state led to calls from Chelsea fans for City's FA Cup winning goal to be disallowed after an accidental handball by Ayoze Perez in the build-up. The incident was however deemed to be too early in the build-up.

[Frank Large's Black Book]

1 minute ago, Spudulike said:

If that was the case then why wasn't the Perez accidental handball penalised leading up to Tielemans goal at Wembley? 

Just because.

or

That's why

 

(showing my age)

[filbertway]

So...its back to how it was. If you accidentally handball and then score itll no longer be disallowed.

 

Well done IFAB. Where would we be without you?

[Guest Bert Fill]

8 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

If that was the case then why wasn't the Perez accidental handball penalised leading up to Tielemans goal at Wembley? 

Because if it bounced off another part of you and then hit your hand it wasn’t handball.

[Spudulike]

6 minutes ago, davieG said:

According to the Merc article

 

The handball law in its current state led to calls from Chelsea fans for City's FA Cup winning goal to be disallowed after an accidental handball by Ayoze Perez in the build-up. The incident was however deemed to be too early in the build-up.

So that must've also applied when Kane handled just before the Bale goal? 

 

How early in the build-up is too early? 

[Guest Bert Fill]

9 minutes ago, davieG said:

According to the Merc article

 

The handball law in its current state led to calls from Chelsea fans for City's FA Cup winning goal to be disallowed after an accidental handball by Ayoze Perez in the build-up. The incident was however deemed to be too early in the build-up.

Unusually, the Merc doesn’t seem to know what it’s talking about. No way that could be ‘too early’ in the buildup. Ball pinged off another bit of Perez before hitting his arm, so no handball. This was one of the few bits of the handball rules that was actually clear.

What was wrong with deliberate handball = free kick; accidental handball = play on, I have no idea.

[Finnegan]

so we've gone full circle 

[Blarmy]

What 

[UHDrive]

51 minutes ago, davieG said:

Deja Vue

 

A change to the handball law will be implemented in Euro 2020 ahead of a potential change for the 2021/22 Premier League season.

In the season just gone, handballs in the build-up to a goal, even if accidental, were penalised with the goal being disallowed.

After a number of incidents, the International Football Association Board (IFAB) announced a change to the rules meaning that accidental handballs will not be penalised.

The new rule was expected to come into effect at the start of July, but UEFA have now announced that the rule will be applied to the European Championships which start on June 11.

 

In a briefing, reported by BBC Sport, UEFA referee chief Roberto Rosetti also said there must be ‘clear evidence’ for officials to disallow a goal using the Video Assistant referee (VAR).
"Football is about controversial moments and it is not always easy to define the line of intervention for our VARs,” he said.

 

"We want clear evidence to disallow goals - that's it. For factual decisions we want interventions just if it's clear."

It was also reported back in March that IFAB are looking at potential changes to the offside rule, amid a number of close calls that have seen goals ruled out.

Basically everyone can now stop holding their arms and hands by their side in the penalty box, and get away with it. Voila 🤗

[davieG]

7 minutes ago, UHDrive said:

Basically everyone can now stop holding their arms and hands by their side in the penalty box, and get away with it. Voila 🤗

It'll always be subjective and they'll continue to be disagreements but there always has been so just stop changing the laws FFS.

[Swarles Barkley]

5 hours ago, Spudulike said:

If that was the case then why wasn't the Perez accidental handball penalised leading up to Tielemans goal at Wembley? 

Game was too boring so needed a goal to spice things up

[Ric Flair]

This rule saga been about as useful as a pissing section in a swimming pool.

[UpTheLeagueFox]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

This rule saga been about as useful as a pissing section in a swimming pool.

I remember during our school days @Izzy getting told off for peeing in the pool.

Then again he was stood on the top diving board...

[davieG]

6 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

I remember during our school days @Izzy getting told off for peeing in the pool.

Then again he was stood on the top diving board...

I'm not swallowing that!

[Super_horns]

I thought they were just going to punish the goal scorer if he handballs it but if someone setting up the goal (Kane - sorry !) or in the build up ( Perez ) it won’t matter?

 

Still going to cause debate and controversy

Edited 6 June 2021 by Super_horns

[tom27111]

15 hours ago, Bert Fill said:

Unusually, the Merc doesn’t seem to know what it’s talking about. No way that could be ‘too early’ in the buildup. Ball pinged off another bit of Perez before hitting his arm, so no handball. This was one of the few bits of the handball rules that was actually clear.

What was wrong with deliberate handball = free kick; accidental handball = play on, I have no idea.

 

It was too early in the move to be checked by VAR as it didn't lead directly to a goal, the ball found its way to Luke Thomas, before passing it to Youri.

 

 

[Plastik Man]

16 hours ago, Bert Fill said:

Because if it bounced off another part of you and then hit your hand it wasn’t handball.

It would be accidental!

[jmono84]

Let’s face it 99% of the time if the ball hits a players hand it’ll be accidental. They just need to use common sense and judge each moment individually.

 

For me the Tielemans rocket and even the goal Spurs scored which hit Kane’s hand was the correct decision from

the officials but the handball against the welsh player in the recent Wales v France game which led to a peno and a red (in a pissing friendly) was so wrong it made my blood boil and I couldn’t give a toss about Wales.

[davieG]

1 hour ago, Super_horns said:

I thought they were just going to punish the goal scorer if he handballs it but if someone setting up the goal (Kane - sorry !) or in the build up ( Perez ) it won’t matter?

 

Still going to cause debate and controversy

It doesn't matter what the law is they'll always be arguments unless it's so deliberate as in being a 2nd goalkeeper.

[st albans fox]

I think it’s a ‘recipe for disaster’

Think wolves against us a couple, seasons ago 

if it doesn’t hit attacker’s arm then it doesn’t drop to the goal scorer in the way that enables a direct quick strike at goal.  But I imagine this wouldn’t be given ?.  Or would it???

[jmono84]

Was that Boly? I thought he jumped, missed the ball with his head and it hit his hand which knocked it towards his player to score. A situation like that should be given as handball.

Edited 6 June 2021 by jmono84

[davieG]

Seems to me to stop any arguments you've got to go back to deliberate hand to ball only being a foul or any touch on the ball no matter accidental or not is a foul as in feet/hockey.