Player Contracts

[moore_94]

I know recently there has been a lot of talk about Tielemans' contract, and also a few people have mentioned Ricardo and Soyuncu, but there is also quite a few other players whose contracts expire in 2023

 

The club need to start getting some new contracts sorted otherwise we could see quite a lot of squad turnover very soon, as anyone with a contract ending in 2023 you ideally want to sell next summer at the latest which currently stands at 10 players

 

Expires 2022: Eldin Jakupovic, Daniel Amartey, Ademola Lookman*

 

Expires 2023: Kasper Schmeichel, Ryan Bertrand, Jonny Evans, Nampalys Mendy, Jamie Vardy, Ricardo Pereira, Ayoze Perez, Youri Tielemans, Filip Benkovic, Caglar Soyuncu

 

Expires 2024: Marc Albrighton, Jannik Vestergaard, Wilfred Ndidi, James Maddison, Kelechi Iheanacho, James Justin, Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, Luke Thomas, Dennis Praet

 

Expires 2025: Danny Ward, Timothy Castagne, Harvey Barnes, Wesley Fofana

 

Expires 2026: Boubakary Soumare, Patson Daka

Edited 21 October 2021 by moore_94

[Lambert09]

Give Bertrand, Perez, mendy and benkovic’s wages to youri! 

[st albans fox]

Rudders isn’t going to have much spare time over the next year or so ……

[NaijaFox]

2 hours ago, moore_94 said:

I know recently there has been a lot of talk about Tielemans' contract, and also a few people have mentioned Ricardo and Soyuncu, but there is also quite a few other players whose contracts expire in 2023

 

The club need to start getting some new contracts sorted otherwise we could see quite a lot of squad turnover very soon, as anyone with a contract ending in 2023 you ideally want to sell next summer at the latest which currently stands at 10 players

 

Expires 2022: Eldin Jakupovic, Daniel Amartey, Ademola Lookman*

 

Expires 2023: Kasper Schmeichel, Ryan Bertrand, Jonny Evans, Nampalys Mendy, Jamie Vardy, Ricardo Pereira, Ayoze Perez, Youri Tielemans, Filip Benkovic, Caglar Soyuncu

Of those 10 players, doubtful we'd be renewing Bertrand, Mendy, and Benkovic, and probably Perez and maybe Jakupovic. 

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, NaijaFox said:

Of those 10 players, doubtful we'd be renewing Bertrand, Mendy, and Benkovic, and probably Perez and maybe Jakupovic. 

If we’re not renewing ayo then we should be selling next summer ….

[Ric Flair]

This is why I say we are heading for a transition and a season where we don't finish top 5 or win a trophy even more so. We will sell more than 1 key player this summer coming and I'd not be surprised to see us think about selling several and going big next summer on a brand new squad.

[moore_94]

16 minutes ago, NaijaFox said:

Of those 10 players, doubtful we'd be renewing Bertrand, Mendy, and Benkovic, and probably Perez and maybe Jakupovic. 

Still leaves 7 other players; 6 first teamers that we really do need to make a decision on in the next 8 months or so, and 1 squad player that we need to make a decision on before the end of the year really

 

As well as also trying to sell the players you mentioned above in the next 2 transfer windows

 

Could end up seeing quite a lot of squad turnover

Edited 21 October 2021 by moore_94

[Ric Flair]

Just now, moore_94 said:

Still leaves 7 other players; 6 first teamers that we really do need to make a decision on in the next 8 months or so, and 1 squad player that we need to make a decision on before the end of the year really

 

As well as also trying to sell the players you mentioned above in the next 2 transfer windows

 

Could up seeing quite a lot of squad turnover

Yesh, this is the turning of the tide and we have to get it absolutely spot on. 

[Tom12345]

We are leaving it a bit late.

 

For Tielemans, I was saying that we should have started to talk about renewing his contract when we renewed Maddison’s. Left it too late and unless we get CL football he is gone.

[Tom12345]

And I don’t understand why we would sign anyone with big bucks for only 4 years. 

[AKCJ]

Be interesting to see what happens with Kasper. Going into 23/24 he'll be 36 turning 37 in November.

 

The only starting Premier League keepers right now (that are 36+) are Lukasz Fabianski and Ben Foster.

 

The rest are pretty much all geriatric ex-Prem keepers signed by big clubs to keep their home grown status in check (likes of Tom Heaton, Andy Lonergan and Lee Grant).

 

Wouldn't surprise me if we made genuine moves to replace him next summer. Someone that will actually play in the cup/(hopefully) European games.

[TAFKA Castroneves]

13 hours ago, moore_94 said:

I know recently there has been a lot of talk about Tielemans' contract, and also a few people have mentioned Ricardo and Soyuncu, but there is also quite a few other players whose contracts expire in 2023

 

The club need to start getting some new contracts sorted otherwise we could see quite a lot of squad turnover very soon, as anyone with a contract ending in 2023 you ideally want to sell next summer at the latest which currently stands at 10 players

 

Expires 2022: Eldin Jakupovic, Daniel Amartey, Ademola Lookman*

 

Expires 2023: Kasper Schmeichel, Ryan Bertrand, Jonny Evans, Nampalys Mendy, Jamie Vardy, Ricardo Pereira, Ayoze Perez, Youri Tielemans, Filip Benkovic, Caglar Soyuncu

 

Expires 2024: Marc Albrighton, Jannik Vestergaard, Wilfred Ndidi, James Maddison, Kelechi Iheanacho, James Justin, Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, Luke Thomas, Dennis Praet

 

Expires 2025: Danny Ward, Timothy Castagne, Harvey Barnes, Wesley Fofana

 

Expires 2026: Boubakary Soumare, Patson Daka

 

A great post this 👍 

 

If anything this actually shows me a level of responsibility from our owners/management team - even though it seems a bit concerning some of the names coming up in 2023. Let’s not forget this will be the biggest our total wage structure has probably ever been in the clubs history - and if a disaster did happen where we ended up missing out on European football, or at worst got relegated (I know we hope not right? But it’s happened before when we’ve had a squad of bigger Premier League names) then we’d be looking at trouble.

 

Firstly I hope Big Dan gets a new contract as he’s the first one up and should in theory not demand a massive pay rise, hopefully an extension for a few more years would be achievable quickly.

 

2022 into 2023 is going to be the time where we know where the ground lies with Jonny Evans/Kasper and Vardy as all have pretty decent pay packets - well deserved ones at that - but of course are now hitting that age mark where a lot will be based on their fitness and what is seen behind the scenes from them physically to see what would be right for them and the club now.

 

I’ve wondered if Kasper might be one we have already quietly covered with Danny Ward being here for longer - and Iversen who looks pretty decent so far in his step up in the Championship. 

 

Hopefully Vards will just want to stay and if the club have to ask him to trim a bit of his wages - bearing in mind by then (and I hope he’s still firing like a legend) he will be 37 - and possibly even behind Daka in the pecking order who might need a new contract to put off suitors.

 

Evans meanwhile looks like the injuries have started to make his future beyond then tricky, similar to Vards if he’s fit enough and perhaps can take a slight pay cut to stay here that could still happen.

 

Soyuncu and Ricardo stand out for me as two who we should look at putting in the Amartey category of getting signed down as soon as possible. Ricky hasn’t quite got back to form yet but he is showing good improvement week on week and it would be best to get him signed up now before we potentially end up putting him in the window more via our performances. Hopefully Big Cags we can do very soon before he hits Tielemans territory - which we already know and have all talked about.

 

Perez I’d see towards the end of the season how the ground lies - but once again similar to Danny Amartey - if he wants a new extension I don’t see any harmin giving it to him, while he divides people on here you won’t get many bit part players who come on and now and again make a massive difference to proceedings, we could have a lot worse.

 

Once these have been decided we then know more about the 2024 bunch - with players like Madders/Wilf etc. 

 

Its no doubt a transition time for the club these next two years, this is why I hope and pray we can get ourselves in the Champions League somehow (don’t sack Ole United 😂) and let’s not forget with the pandemic we’ve been hit in our finances just like everyone else. Nice to see our club ran sensibly and hopefully we can make the right decisions at the right times 🦊 

[dayday]

27 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Be interesting to see what happens with Kasper. Going into 23/24 he'll be 36 turning 37 in November.

 

The only starting Premier League keepers right now (that are 36+) are Lukasz Fabianski and Ben Foster.

 

The rest are pretty much all geriatric ex-Prem keepers signed by big clubs to keep their home grown status in check (likes of Tom Heaton, Andy Lonergan and Lee Grant).

 

Wouldn't surprise me if we made genuine moves to replace him next summer. Someone that will actually play in the cup/(hopefully) European games.

With Daniel Iversen getting good reviews at Preston, I think he will be pushing Kasper next season

[TJB-fox]

10 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

We are leaving it a bit late.

 

For Tielemans, I was saying that we should have started to talk about renewing his contract when we renewed Maddison’s. Left it too late and unless we get CL football he is gone.

 

10 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

And I don’t understand why we would sign anyone with big bucks for only 4 years. 

This isn’t football manager, you can’t just dictate players lives. They have families, children, mortgages etc to think of. There’s so many external factors to consider when signing contracts, it’s really not as simple as saying oh yes get him on a 7 year deal. It just doesn’t happen, that’s football. 
 

4 years is a normal length contract, equally you could flip it and say why would a player of Youri’s quality sign more than 4 years at a club like ours? 
 

Think you’re being quite naive with your views I’ll be honest mate. In an ideal world Youri signs a long(er) term deal initially but in reality it wouldn’t happen. The club has finances and itself to look after too. What if Youri signs for 7 years - is totally shite/gets injured and we’re stuck paying monumental wages or a lump sum payoff for duration of the contract? 

[Ric Flair]

38 minutes ago, dayday said:

With Daniel Iversen getting good reviews at Preston, I think he will be pushing Kasper next season

Not to mention the high hopes of Brad Young.

[coolhandfox]

12 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Yesh, this is the turning of the tide and we have to get it absolutely spot on. 

Going to be a dangerous time for us in my view, with Kasper and Vardy in the twlight of their careers two massive players and dressing room voices to replace. 

 

We could be looking at replacing the whole spine of the time except for Ndidi, get it wrong and we could be back in the Championship. 

 

Kasper, we have Ward and Iversen both on long term contract, but I'm not convince by ethier yet. 

 

At CB the future of Soyuncu and Evans are uncertain, one due to contract and the other due to his physical condition (Pretty sure Evans would sign a new contract no problem) Still think Tarks will be here in the summer. 

 

CM we have the Tielemans issue, pretty sure Soumare is part of the soluation and BR is using this year to have a good look at KDH.

 

Hopefully with Kel and Daka we have Vardy long term replacements sorted.

 

All of the above is why we need to hold on to BR in my view.  

 

Think we could be in for a rough ride and may look back on 19/20, 20/21 as a really purple patch rather then the disappointment some seem to think they were. 

Edited 22 October 2021 by coolhandfox

[rachhere]

Crazy how when Vardy's last contract was announced it seemed a bit optimistic he would still be playing at this level by the end of it... now I am looking at 2023 and thinking 'get that extension sorted!'

[sm1]

Pretty daunting task when you see the players that could be leaving in the next 2 years. Defensively, we could be in some trouble, potentially losing Kasper, Amartey, Caglar, Evans, Bertrand & Ricardo. 

[Jobyfox]

13 minutes ago, sm1 said:

Pretty daunting task when you see the players that could be leaving in the next 2 years. Defensively, we could be in some trouble, potentially losing Kasper, Amartey, Caglar, Evans, Bertrand & Ricardo. 

….. and keeping Vestergaard 

[Guest SO1]

11 hours ago, Tom12345 said:

And I don’t understand why we would sign anyone with big bucks for only 4 years. 

Something better than nothing. All about who has the power.

[Guest SO1]

The names change but the song remains the same. Have faith that the club knows what its doing and has been working out the transitions for years. There's a reason why we are here now.

 

My only concern is how the club works out the effects of Covid on the market...but then every other club has to deal with the same issue. Now more than ever the club has to commit to developing youth and making all players better. Its the only way to punch above our weight.

[Jobyfox]

It probably looks scarier than it is. 

 

The ones that we ought to be really looking to tie down are Tielemans, Ricardo and Caglar. 
 

There won’t be any big money offers for Schmeichel, Vardy and Evans due to age. They will all be at an age where a proactive succession plan needs to be in place anyway even if we’re able to keep them, but it’s likely to depend on how many years we’re prepared to offer. 
 

The exception to the squad players is Amartey. I didn’t realise he was 2022. We probably should be making a decision on him right now, but I’m wondering whether he probably wants to get more 1st team football elsewhere. 

[FoxesWalk]

51 minutes ago, sm1 said:

Pretty daunting task when you see the players that could be leaving in the next 2 years. Defensively, we could be in some trouble, potentially losing Kasper, Amartey, Caglar, Evans, Bertrand & Ricardo. 

Defensively, we are already in some trouble, arguably. 

[weller54]

2 hours ago, sm1 said:

Pretty daunting task when you see the players that could be leaving in the next 2 years. Defensively, we could be in some trouble, potentially losing Kasper, Amartey, Caglar, Evans, Bertrand & Ricardo. 

Easily sorted by signing 6 from Southampton.

[Ric Flair]

3 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Going to be a dangerous time for us in my view, with Kasper and Vardy in the twlight of their careers two massive players and dressing room voices to replace. 

 

We could be looking at replacing the whole spine of the time except for Ndidi, get it wrong and we could be back in the Championship. 

 

Kasper, we have Ward and Iversen both on long term contract, but I'm not convince by ethier yet. 

 

At CB the future of Soyuncu and Evans are uncertain, one due to contract and the other due to his physical condition (Pretty sure Evans would sign a new contract no problem) Still think Tarks will be here in the summer. 

 

CM we have the Tielemans issue, pretty sure Soumare is part of the soluation and BR is using this year to have a good look at KDH.

 

Hopefully with Kel and Daka we have Vardy long term replacements sorted.

 

All of the above is why we need to hold on to BR in my view.  

 

Think we could be in for a rough ride and may look back on 19/20, 20/21 as a really purple patch rather then the disappointment some seem to think they were. 

Yeah, look at Spurs drop off and I think our fall would be bigger than theirs due to them being slightly more established in operation. That said we have a very good strategy and I'm confident we would make a damn good go of rebuilding and sticking around.