Claude Puel

[Lako42]

Puel thought Vardy was done. 

 

What a complete ****ing duffer

[splinterdream]

1 hour ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

I have absolutely zero respect for him. People point to whatever signings he made but to be honest we don't know what input he had in those since we are told recruitment has a lot of automany with the way the club is run. What I do know is that multiple players and journalists (including one who posts on this very forum) have come out and said what a nasty piece of work Puel is. From what has been said of him isolating individuals, treating employees with no respect and attempting his little divide and rule game I can only conclude Puel is a bully. Being good at your job is all well and good but first rule should be to approach the people who work for and with you like human beings. The man was trying to get rid of our greatest ever player for Pete's sake, a player who the season after Puel was rightly binned won the Golden Boot. Frankly, if Puel came out the tunnel at the King Power again for any reason i'd boo him. He's a cretin.

 

Tbh I didn't know anything about Puel behind the scenes, I know that there were rumours vardy and himself didn't see eye to eye with Rebecca letting slip, obviously puel ball didn't suit vardys game at all, and I do think Puel had to go if what you say is true but still recognise his tenure wasn't a disaster 

[Jacnah]

1 hour ago, splinterdream said:

Seeing he's all over the Internet having problems at St Etiene, I'm shocked at the hatred some of our fans have for him.

 

Whilst I was pulling my hair out at the time, and calling for him to go, it is my opinion he did a good job in a transitional period for our club and whilst results were not good, he was on the right track and given more time would imo have turned it around. This is no way anything against Brendan Rodgers, I just dont think Clause Puel deserves pelters from our fans.

 

Some comments I've seen include - I'll never forgive him for what he did to our club. 

 

Please discuss.

He did a decent and needed job transitioning the club and team. 

 

Did he make some odd/bad decisions during that process? Yes, but not all and overall his influence was positive

 

Would i want to watch his brand of football all the time? No certainly not.

 

Would he, in time, have taken us to were we are today? Doubtful.

 

Do I think he was moved on at the right time - neither to early or to late? - Yes in hindsight probably so

 

Do I hate him or think he's the worst thing to happen? Of course not - I'm not an emotionally unstable and unthinking child

Edited 23 October 2021 by Jacnah

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I'm not looking for compliments, I'm not looking for anyone to say Puel is a brilliant manager, I'm looking for a discussion based on my opinion that he built the foundations of our current side, a bit like the argument Nige built the foundations for the 15/16 side.

You positive (worthy I would say) opinions pale in the face of football fans hyperbole.  

Personally I would say that he did a job that needed to be done at the time, but was incapable of doing more

[escape2victory]

I don’t really agree with the narrative that he was instrumental in changing the way we play and personnel.

It was the clubs decision to change from an ageing counter attacking team to a more younger, possession based team, and they got a manager (Puel) to fit that brief. The recruitment team deserve great praise over those years with the players brought in. Puel I’ll give credit for Ricardo as no doubt being a former manager would of sold the club to him.

 

Other than that, he was just a coach following the direction the club wanted to go in and did a bang average job doing it and stifled us for 2 years 

[st albans fox]

30 minutes ago, Webbo said:

I thought the same, what could he have done? 

 

33 minutes ago, FLAN said:

Don’t you think every manager would have dealt with that situation with the utmost respect?  

He struck the right tone in every interview and every appearance in the aftermath  ….perhaps his natural dullness helped! 
 

it was an incredibly difficult situation for him and the senior players to be in. 

[MPH]

The ‘ it’s Saturday and we don’t have a game’ thread

[MattFox]

He was like an un-flushable turd for a long period

 

Every time it looked like he was going to get the chop he’d put together a few wins against the top 6 sides until his luck ran out.

 

Basically Ole ball before Ole was a thing

[splinterdream]

34 minutes ago, MPH said:

The ‘ it’s Saturday and we don’t have a game’ thread

The 'I really should be on the treadmill but am procrastinating' thread

[surrifox]

He made Crystal Palace look like peak Barca every time we played them 

[Paninistickers]

Debate Been done to death, so I'll pivot slightly and name some undeniable highlights, as there were some. 

 

The opening game v Everton

Dismantling Southampton away

Cardiff away 

Beating Man City at home

Beating Chelsea away

Signing Ricardo and Tielemans

He couldn't stand Silva

 

Plus, he brought on the games of Maguire and Chilwell (which ultimatley earned us a few bob)

 

[South Shire Fox]

Often set us up well against the big teams where we nicked a few points but apart from that was an atrocious manager. The fact that the clubs of his last 3 jobs were/are desperate for him to leave says it all. Some of the most depressing football ive ever witnessed and made it almost a chore to watch us in large spells of his reign. 

[filbertway]

He did a tough job ripping up an aging team that was incapable of string two passes together and helping to put together the spine of the squad that still has many key players.

 

His football was insufferable but no different to what we've been playing this year. The only difference being that individual quality has won us a cup and a top 5 position last season.

 

He really should move into a DOF role somewhere as his football is horrific to watch. Though it was better than what we were serving up when we took us over.

[splinterdream]

35 minutes ago, surrifox said:

He made Crystal Palace look like peak Barca every time we played them 

he did, I'm not denying that, he was clearly extremely stubborn, he could have said 'okay lets let them have the ball, win it back and hit it long to Vardy whenever possible', he'd have probably got better results that way and won over more fans but he didn't and i think today we may be better for it

[Paninistickers]

7 minutes ago, filbertway said:

He did a tough job ripping up an aging team that was incapable of string two passes together and helping to put together the spine of the squad that still has many key players.

 

His football was insufferable but no different to what we've been playing this year. The only difference being that individual quality has won us a cup and a top 5 position last season.

 

He really should move into a DOF role somewhere as his football is horrific to watch. Though it was better than what we were serving up when we took us over.

Shakey had us is a worse place than Ranieri 12 months earlier. We were on an express lane to the championship, humping and hoofing our way around. Humping and hoofing ffs, with Mahrez, Maguire, Fuchs, Vards, Wilf, and early days Iheanacho and Chilwell at your disposal. Staggeringly bad. 

[FLAN]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

 

He struck the right tone in every interview and every appearance in the aftermath  ….perhaps his natural dullness helped! 
 

it was an incredibly difficult situation for him and the senior players to be in. 

I agree with you totally on his reaction. I just think any manager would have done the same 

[Freeman's Wharfer]

4 hours ago, st albans fox said:

that comment ignores the way he dealt with the saddest days of our football club …..you should retract your statement on that level alone 

I was waiting for this line… Add it to the Leicester City cliches that get trotted out with no substance other than someone once said it and it sounded like a smart opinion.

 

Tell me what Puel did that wasn’t expected out of common decency during that time?

 

As far as I observed he slipped into the background and let those who knew Vichai better dictate what should/shouldn’t happen. It was very clear that the response to that event was driven by Schmeichel, Vardy and the others that have been part of that pretty powerful and influential player group for a number of years. It kind of felt that he didn’t really know what he should be doing and just let others take control.

 

But what else could he do?

 

If he’d been the one to say “no, you can’t go to Thailand” then how would he have fared following that with the owners, players and fans? If he’d said “you have to play against Cardiff” where would that have got him with a squad that might not have wanted to play?

 

I’m not saying he did anything wrong, what I’m saying is that I can’t see that he did anything that he had a realistic choice to do something different to. But he then weirdly gets this praise for kind of just doing what he had either no option to do differently or that which he should have been expected to do. I find it bizarre.

Edited 23 October 2021 by Freeman's Wharfer

[SheppyFox]

He built this team.

[Mike Oxlong]

5 hours ago, splinterdream said:

Seeing he's all over the Internet having problems at St Etiene, I'm shocked at the hatred some of our fans have for him.

 

Whilst I was pulling my hair out at the time, and calling for him to go, it is my opinion he did a good job in a transitional period for our club and whilst results were not good, he was on the right track and given more time would imo have turned it around. This is no way anything against Brendan Rodgers, I just dont think Clause Puel deserves pelters from our fans.

 

Some comments I've seen include - I'll never forgive him for what he did to our club. 

 

Please discuss.

Geoff’s had a bit more time on his hands recently 

[Guest ttfn]

1 hour ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

I was waiting for this line… Add it to the Leicester City cliches that get trotted out with no substance other than someone once said it and it sounded like a smart opinion.

 

Tell me what Puel did that wasn’t expected out of common decency during that time?

 

As far as I observed he slipped into the background and let those who knew Vichai better dictate what should/shouldn’t happen. It was very clear that the response to that event was driven by Schmeichel, Vardy and the others that have been part of that pretty powerful and influential player group for a number of years. It kind of felt that he didn’t really know what he should be doing and just let others take control.

 

But what else could he do?

 

If he’d been the one to say “no, you can’t go to Thailand” then how would he have fared following that with the owners, players and fans? If he’d said “you have to play against Cardiff” where would that have got him with a squad that might not have wanted to play?

 

I’m not saying he did anything wrong, what I’m saying is that I can’t see that he did anything that he had a realistic choice to do something different to. But he then weirdly gets this praise for kind of just doing what he had either no option to do differently or that which he should have been expected to do. I find it bizarre.

I completely disagree with you about Puel generally. I can’t be bothered to go over old ground again, suffice to say that I think a lot of the criticism thrown at him is way overblown.

 

But I think you’re right about this. I’m not sure he deserves any special praise for his behaviour. What I will say is that the whole thing must have been extraordinarily draining and he and the players all deserve a lot of credit for holding it together so well on the pitch in the weeks that immediately followed.

[Alex_LCFC]

Scapegoat 

[splinterdream]

1 hour ago, Mike Oxlong said:

Geoff’s had a bit more time on his hands recently 

If you're looking in Geoff, what happened fella, I missed the gossip on Puel.

[UpTheLeagueFox]

7 hours ago, TJB-fox said:

Wait til @UpTheLeagueFoxsees this thread…

Ha! Plenty of revisionism on FT about his tenure but maybe they're just looking for attention.

 

 

Anyway, I'm glad he no longer has his toxic little fingers anywhere near our great football club.

The immortals (and others) would tell you exactly the same.

[UpTheLeagueFox]

On a more happier note, I was at WBA - Bristol City for talkSPORT today, watching a rather more popular ex manager of ours.

Saw Nigel afterwards for press duties.

Big smiles and the usual "eh up lad" but wasn't sure whether to go for the fist bump or handshake or even if he was keeping his distance because of his Covid issues.

We eventually went in for a handshake and hand-on-the-arm thing and with a huge smile he said:
"Of course we can shake hands... but obviously I'll need to sanitise afterwards !"

 

Never change, Nige. Never change 

[st albans fox]

7 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Ha! Plenty of revisionism on FT about his tenure but maybe they're just looking for attention.

 

 

Anyway, I'm glad he no longer has his toxic little fingers anywhere near our great football club.

The immortals (and others) would tell you exactly the same.

(Strokes cat)  …….Ah we’ve been expecting you mr peters …..