6N 2022

[Finnegan]

Was literally about to say before O'Keefe blew there, what money on a draw... 

[Nalis]

Loving this finish, great to watch when your team isnt involved

[Super_horns]

8 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

As a general point of principle? Even if the fly half is playing superbly and his replacement isn't as good? That seems a bit odd to me, even if it is what they always do.

Not sure but they like having “finishers” and Ford is more experienced.

 

Unfortunately cannot account for silly errors from others.

[Finnegan]

Also, if England get a penalty right now in driving rain on 83 minutes to draw the game with the Scotland fans singing etc. You'd probably rather Ford than Smith taking it. 

[Finnegan]

How is that not a pen

[Nalis]

Just now, Finnegan said:

Also, if England get a penalty right now in driving rain on 83 minutes to draw the game with the Scotland fans singing etc. You'd probably rather Ford than Smith taking it. 

I agree, Smith's been excellent under pressure in the Premiership this season but this is a whole other level

[Nalis]

Nice one Agent Scotland, ruins England's grand slam hopes.

 

Now get back in your wee box after losing to Wales next week.

[Bert]

59 minutes ago, Line-X said:

They're not though. 

Lol

[Finnegan]

Seen absolutely nothing there that'll make either Ireland or France feel anxious. 

[Finnegan]

2 minutes ago, Bert said:

Lol

 

I mean Tbf to @Line-X your post before made it sound like you thought it was uncharacteristic, like they bottled it against a bogey team as per usual.

 

This was just two very evenly matched teams. Scotland have closed the gap to the rest of the pack over the last decade, as much as they're still over hyped by the press, where as England are just not as strong as they have been. 

 

It was a close game won by a silly bit of ill discipline. Could have gone either way but home advantage probably tipped it over. Not sure I'd say they "struggled."

Edited 5 February 2022 by Finnegan

[Vacamion]

 

I think I would have attempted to kick for parity.

 

Ah well, I may have to put up with hearing about this result in the office on Monday  

[fuchsntf]

Dickie...Sorry cant forgive the man...He threw it away...England were Managing this game...

One Man Threw it away....!!! This is International level.

 

That said Scotlands Defence was excellent...

 

[SpacedX]

8 minutes ago, Bert said:

Lol

At the point that you posted they had the run of play and looked the better side. Also looked - for all their defensive heroics - as though Scotland were physically flagging. As Finnegan said, several seconds of reckless ill-discipline cost England the game, which is even harder for them to take given that up to then, Scotland had been conceding so many penalties and pressure from the England forwards forcing errors. They certainly weren't, as you put it, "struggling". 

[ClaphamFox]

19 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

Dickie...Sorry cant forgive the man...He threw it away...England were Managing this game...

One Man Threw it away....!!! This is International level.

 

That said Scotlands Defence was excellent...

 

It looked to me like he could have caught it. But that can’t be right - why slap it if you can catch it?

[Finnegan]

7 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It looked to me like he could have caught it. But that can’t be right - why slap it if you can catch it?

 

I mean at least make it look like you're trying to catch it to avoid the penalty try

 

It was stupid. He could possibly have caught it but he also could have let Graham catch it and have him completely lined up to put in to touch as soon as he does.

 

Normally you don't want to risk letting a winger, especially one as tricky as Graham, get his hands on the ball and have you one on one but in that situation it was probably his best bet at not conceding points. Especially given he could have gotten close enough to snaffle him the second he caught it and he obviously greatly out weighs him. 

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

How is that not a pen

I think youngs went too early on the last scrum to take the ball out ……our only chance of taking anything was a point from a pen ….and surely we were close to getting that decision ? 

[Finnegan]

22 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I think youngs went too early on the last scrum to take the ball out ……our only chance of taking anything was a point from a pen ….and surely we were close to getting that decision ? 

 

It was a penalty all day long to be fair. O'Keefe just bottled it, he didn't want the game to be decided by a pen he gave so he just kept resetting it until the scrum was complete. Even Owens in the coms said that any other time in the game it would have been given. 

 

England can feel a tiny bit hard done to. On balance, if it was a football game, you'd say a draw would be fair tbh. 

[Dr Marco]

agree with all of your analysis @Finnegan!

[fuchsntf]

15 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

It was a penalty all day long to be fair. O'Keefe just bottled it, he didn't want the game to be decided by a pen he gave so he just kept resetting it until the scrum was complete. Even Owens in the coms said that any other time in the game it would have been given. 

 

England can feel a tiny bit hard done to. On balance, if it was a football game, you'd say a draw would be fair tbh. 

Good Analyse through the whole day.

 

And a decent ref, would not Play poltics, but to the game.  it was A penallty & the game was decided by a penalty,because he gave the Scots one,only a few

deciding minutes before..

 

A lot of changes in the laws,around the scrum & maul over the last few years, & Refs Interpretation at International level, I wouldnt have enjoyed has a Player nor

supporter...45 yrs ago when just I had to retire,there were some good needed changes, and decent,regular tweeks...especially around dangerous play.

But some in the last few seasons seem so  tedious & unnecessary...especially when they deliberately are ignoring the Feeding at the scrum...& Standing offside

along the line, where the Southern hemisphere teams are  really allowed take the pss..But its creeped in ,in 6n Rugby.

[Nalis]

Glad talk of promotion/relegation had died down and the potentially of swapping Georgia and Italy.

 

Early today, Georgia drew 25 all at home to Portugal.

[fuchsntf]

Italy struggling their stuff, But I still see France turning it over..

Italy's discipline will Let them down,unless.....

Edited 6 February 2022 by fuchsntf

[Nalis]

We all know whats going to happen but that was an excellent opening try 

from Italy

[Finnegan]

For context for some of you that are only fairly casual rugby fans, watching this as a Wales fan is like watching Brentford go at Liverpool or Arsenal as a Leicester fan. 

 

We know we have an objectively better squad but they're organised, well coached, fired up, motivated, confident, playing with bags of intensity. 

 

Wales under Pivac are exactly like Rodgers Leicester, when it's good it's really attractive to watch and dangerous but it's so rare and more often than not we're insipid, sluggish and flimsy. 

 

That said. If France don't step it up a bit, I think I'm gonna make Ireland my tip for the tournament having seen everyone play. As shit as we were yesterday shouldn't take away from how good Ireland were. 

[The People's Hero]

Going to Twickers for England v Ireland. Should be a good day out.

 

BIG QUESTION: Will I see many of (our) Tigers in action?

[Finnegan]

19 hours ago, The People's Hero said:

Going to Twickers for England v Ireland. Should be a good day out.

 

BIG QUESTION: Will I see many of (our) Tigers in action?

 

I wouldn't expect wholesale changes from the Scotland game, to be honest. 

 

Don't think Steward, Youngs or Genge (if you still count him!) will get dropped.