ajthefox Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 Just now, The Year Of The Fox said: What, so the citizens still receive the booking fee? Air BnB just aren’t taking the cut? There is no service fee, so all of the money you pay is going directly to whoever's listing it is. 1
st albans fox Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said: What, so the citizens still receive the booking fee? Air BnB just aren’t taking the cut? 13 minutes ago, ajthefox said: There is no service fee, so all of the money you pay is going directly to whoever's listing it is. Great that you can send money directly to Ukrainians but what do we actually know about the listings ? Are you able to ask about them and how confident can you be about their response. As soon as word gets out on this, there will be all sorts of places listed and who knows who is behind the listings ? Surely it’s safer to donate to the govt backed charities ( DEC) ?? Edited 4 March 2022 by st albans fox 1
ajthefox Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 13 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Great that you can send money directly to Ukrainians but what do we actually know about the listings ? Are you able to ask about them and how confident can you be about their response. As soon as word gets out on this, there will be all sorts of places listed and who knows who is behind the listings ? Surely it’s safer to donate to the govt backed charities ( DEC) ?? Probably. I reckon if you look at reviews etc you'd probably get a good idea though. Anything made in the last week or with no reviews (or reviews written this week), don't bother. 2
Mike Oxlong Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) Pootin Edited 4 March 2022 by Mike Oxlong 1
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 5 hours ago, gerblod said: A few years ago I was in Germany - in the village where my folks live. The police came around telling people to stay inside as there was a rabid dog at large on the edge of the village. They shot it - not without personal risk. Putin is a rabid dog. Unstable, megalomaniac, psychopathic. The Russian people are largely apathetic and very naive. We thought Russia was changing in those years following Perestroika and Glasnost. Turns out the Russians prefer mediaeval society. The West is going to have to find a way of ousting him without it blowing up in our faces. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Happy Fox Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 A no fly zone has to happen surely?, Putin is a f**king nutter. 1
Jon the Hat Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 6 hours ago, gerblod said: A few years ago I was in Germany - in the village where my folks live. The police came around telling people to stay inside as there was a rabid dog at large on the edge of the village. They shot it - not without personal risk. Putin is a rabid dog. Unstable, megalomaniac, psychopathic. The Russian people are largely apathetic and very naive. We thought Russia was changing in those years following Perestroika and Glasnost. Turns out the Russians prefer mediaeval society. The West is going to have to find a way of ousting him without it blowing up in our faces. Jesus Christ what a load of shit. 1
Lionator Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: A no fly zone has to happen surely?, Putin is a f**king nutter. No it won’t. It would be a declaration of war by NATO. Major cities in Ukraine are going to be levelled and we will not be intervening. Edited 4 March 2022 by Lionator
Jon the Hat Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: A no fly zone has to happen surely?, Putin is a f**king nutter. So your logic here is NATO should start a war with a ****ing nutter with thousands of nuclear weapons? Have you thought about a career in the diplomatic service? Edited 4 March 2022 by Jon the Hat 3
leicsmac Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 3 hours ago, Lako42 said: Immediately made me think of these boys when reading about Ukrainian forces digging in around the forested areas of Kiev. Also made me despair that we've failed to develop as human beings. ....quite. Incredibly saddening that will most likely be our legacy.
weller54 Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 4 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: A no fly zone has to happen surely?, Putin is a f**king nutter. I agree!...he's pissing over everyone threatening to use nuclear weapons!.. So after Ukraine who's next..Poland? He'll then use the same threat if Nato intervenes!!...and so it will go on. We have no choice but to call his bluff. Dangerous yes, but no other alternatives I'm afraid. 1 1
leicsmac Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 2 minutes ago, weller54 said: I agree!...he's pissing over everyone threatening to use nuclear weapons!.. So after Ukraine who's next..Poland? He'll then use the same threat if Nato intervenes!!...and so it will go on. We have no choice but to call his bluff. Dangerous yes, but no other alternatives I'm afraid. When the supposedly only option has the distinct possibility of the end of human civilisation at the end of it, perhaps it might be a good time to look for those alternatives. 1
Happy Fox Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 1 minute ago, weller54 said: I agree!...he's pissing over everyone threatening to use nuclear weapons!.. So after Ukraine who's next..Poland? He'll then use the same threat if Nato intervenes!!...and so it will go on. We have no choice but to call his bluff. Dangerous yes, but no other alternatives I'm afraid. Exactly, Sanctions are not going to do anything Putin doesn’t give a shit about them, the Ukranian president needs our help, there is only so much they can do. This is a European World Issue and should be treated as such, I think the approach of sitting idly twiddling our thumbs is not productive. Trying to reason with Russia isn’t going to work, they are clear in their objectives they want to take over Ukraine.
leicsmac Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 1 minute ago, Happy Fox said: Exactly, Sanctions are not going to do anything Putin doesn’t give a shit about them, the Ukranian president needs our help, there is only so much they can do. This is a European World Issue and should be treated as such, I think the approach of sitting idly twiddling our thumbs is not productive. Trying to reason with Russia isn’t going to work, they are clear in their objectives they want to take over Ukraine. If there is a stronger option than the ones being carried out that is available now that doesn't have the statistically significant possibility of escalating to somewhere we really don't want it to go, I'd be all ears. 1
kristianity77 Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 Seems you wake up every day and Russia has done something else thats considered terrible and the whole world goes "you naughty boy" and everything carries on regardless. Let's face it, Putin can do what the hell he wants here and no one is going to do anything to stop it. Shame, but the whole world is backed into a corner whilst Putin had his fingers on the nukes. It's almost like he can wipe ukraine off the map, killing hundreds of thousands whilst the rest flee, then move whoever he wants in to the area and all the world will say at the end of it is "Please don't do that again"
Dahnsouff Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 1 minute ago, Happy Fox said: Exactly, Sanctions are not going to do anything Putin doesn’t give a shit about them, the Ukranian president needs our help, there is only so much they can do. This is a European World Issue and should be treated as such, I think the approach of sitting idly twiddling our thumbs is not productive. Trying to reason with Russia isn’t going to work, they are clear in their objectives they want to take over Ukraine. Do you seriously think boots on the ground in the Ukraine from NATO troops is a sensible choice for humanity at large? The desire to rebuke Putin is obvious, but the reality must be somewhat more considered. 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, weller54 said: I agree!...he's pissing over everyone threatening to use nuclear weapons!.. So after Ukraine who's next..Poland? He'll then use the same threat if Nato intervenes!!...and so it will go on. We have no choice but to call his bluff. Dangerous yes, but no other alternatives I'm afraid. There's a difference between threatening action against NATO if they get involved in a conflict involving two non member states and instantly drawing NATO in by invading a NATO state. Ultimately he doesn't need to threaten NATO, as regardless of what happens it's very unlikely we were or are going to enter the conflict. Chances are he's probably just ensuring that we definitely don't. However the fact he hasn't kicked up more of a fuss over the West supplying weapons to Ukraine should tell you all you need to know about his apetite to draw NATO in to it. Edited 4 March 2022 by Tommy Fresh 4
Lionator Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 Just now, Tommy Fresh said: There's a difference between threating action against NATO if they get involved in a conflict involving two non member states and instantly drawing NATO in by invading a NATO state. Ultimately he doesn't need to threaten NATO, as regardless of what happens it's very unlikely we were or are going to enter the conflict. Chances are he's probably just ensuring that we definitely don't. However the fact he hasn't kicked up more of a fuss over the West supplying weapons to Ukraine should tell you all you need to know about his apetite to draw NATO in to it. He said a month ago that his country would be obliterated by NATO. He knows this, despite the evilness, he’s not stupid, if he wanted war with NATO, he’d have skipped the Ukraine part. 3
leicsmac Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 1 minute ago, kristianity77 said: Seems you wake up every day and Russia has done something else thats considered terrible and the whole world goes "you naughty boy" and everything carries on regardless. Let's face it, Putin can do what the hell he wants here and no one is going to do anything to stop it. Shame, but the whole world is backed into a corner whilst Putin had his fingers on the nukes. It's almost like he can wipe ukraine off the map, killing hundreds of thousands whilst the rest flee, then move whoever he wants in to the area and all the world will say at the end of it is "Please don't do that again" Unfortunately that happened a lot during the Cold War, too. Americans in Vietnam, Panama and Grenada, USSR in the Czech Republic and Afghanistan, among others. The principle of MAD stops the big boys from picking a fight with each other - but it does nothing to stop them from exercising their realpolitik muscles in what they believe to be their sphere of influence.
MPH Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 Putin has to be assassinated. That’s the only viable option. 3
Riyad_Suarez Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 16 minutes ago, Lionator said: No it won’t. It would be a declaration of war by NATO. Major cities in Ukraine are going to be levelled and we will not be intervening. Perhaps if its passed by the UN maybe a non NATO nation like China could be ever so helpful and volunteer to enforce it. I can't see Vlad d1cking them about.
kristianity77 Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: Unfortunately that happened a lot during the Cold War, too. Americans in Vietnam, Panama and Grenada, USSR in the Czech Republic and Afghanistan, among others. The principle of MAD stops the big boys from picking a fight with each other - but it does nothing to stop them from exercising their realpolitik muscles in what they believe to be their sphere of influence. It's just beginning to get on my nerves now a bit news wise. Like yesterday and today, Russia has committed war crimes and will account for their actions both individually and collectively says the world ten times over. Yeah? By whom?
leicsmac Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 1 minute ago, kristianity77 said: It's just beginning to get on my nerves now a bit news wise. Like yesterday and today, Russia has committed war crimes and will account for their actions both individually and collectively says the world ten times over. Yeah? By whom? It's got on my nerves ever since I understood what it all meant - roughly around the time the US went into Iraq based on a pack of lies. (That example purely for time-based comparison, btw). It's the same with other issues - there needs to be a means to hold the big boys accountable and get them acting in the interests of humanity in general but there likely never will be because they won't stand for it and it's easier said than executed.
Happy Fox Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 13 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Do you seriously think boots on the ground in the Ukraine from NATO troops is a sensible choice for humanity at large? The desire to rebuke Putin is obvious, but the reality must be somewhat more considered. All I know is the likes of Putin, Assad, Khamenei etc need to be held to account. So how do we do that? How do we get these guys out of Power?
leicsmac Posted 4 March 2022 Posted 4 March 2022 2 minutes ago, Happy Fox said: All I know is the likes of Putin, Assad, Khamenei etc need to be held to account. So how do we do that? How do we get these guys out of Power? If anyone on here knew the answer to that I'd encourage them to run for office, because it doesn't seem that many people either in power or out of it have an answer.
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