Popular Post Guesty Posted 3 March 2022 Popular Post Posted 3 March 2022 Saw someone mention about donating earlier. The government matches everything up to £20 mil and there's your gift aid (if UK taxpayer). Basically means every £1 you give is actually £2.25. It brings together 15 UK charities at times of disaster. Including Red Cross, Save the Children, International Rescue Committee and others. 6
The Horse's Mouth Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 49 minutes ago, MPH said: this is a very interesting development. Who pulled the plug? A victim of the sanctions? Is our information we get now being controlled? ( devils advocate statement). I think it is a bad thing, Russian today is widely well known to be state propaganda, but it will contain truth on the conflict. We've now got a conflict where we're silencing one side of it and that can't be good.
CosbehFox Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 Last night I started watching the Death of Yugoslavia documentary series from the BBC in the mid 90s (it’s on YouTube). The opening episode has some chilling comparisons with the current situation 1
Parafox Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Guesty said: Saw someone mention about donating earlier. The government matches everything up to £20 mil and there's your gift aid (if UK taxpayer). Basically means every £1 you give is actually £2.25. It brings together 15 UK charities at times of disaster. Including Red Cross, Save the Children, International Rescue Committee and others. Gift Aid is 25% of any donation so therefore its £1:25 for every pound donated. You will need to sign up to Gift Aid via whichever charity you donate to. It's easy and you will get feedback regarding how much your donations have made to whichever charity you donate to. Please donate for Ukraine via The Red Cross or whatever you feel is the most direct way of helping Ukraine. Edited 3 March 2022 by Parafox
Guesty Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 3 minutes ago, Parafox said: Gift Aid is 25% of any donation so therefore its £1:25 for every pound donated. Don't let that stop you. But the government match every donation (up to 20 million). So that doubles your £1 to £2.
MPH Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Guesty said: Saw someone mention about donating earlier. The government matches everything up to £20 mil and there's your gift aid (if UK taxpayer). Basically means every £1 you give is actually £2.25. It brings together 15 UK charities at times of disaster. Including Red Cross, Save the Children, International Rescue Committee and others. call me victor Meldrew but It feels like the government is turning into into some gameshow donate-athon thing doing a matching pound for pound donation. And I sincerely hope the UK donated more than £20m to the rebuilding of Ukraine Edited 3 March 2022 by MPH
st albans fox Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 1 hour ago, MPH said: this is a very interesting development. Who pulled the plug? A victim of the sanctions? Is our information we get now being controlled? ( devils advocate statement). RT is fed to U.K. networks by Luxembourg and Belgium (I think). They’ve pulled the plug due to EU sanctions I think it is still available via YouTube the U.K. have not pulled RT yet - ofcom is investigating them ….
casablancas Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 Just now, st albans fox said: RT is fed to U.K. networks by Luxembourg and Belgium (I think). They’ve pulled the plug due to EU sanctions I think it is still available via YouTube the U.K. have not pulled RT yet - ofcom is investigating them …. It’s not on sky now.
Scotch Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 Ok so my understanding of what has lead to this conflict is shaky so I've been trying to read up and get a basic understanding. This is what I've taken from it, could someone please confirm or deny I'm in the ball park as well as adding anything critical I've missed... •When the Soviet Union broke up, Ukraine held most of their Nuclear arsenal so in exchange for assurances that they wouldn't invade them, they handed them over to Russia. •Putin wants to put as much of the SU back together as possible and is targeting Ukraine and had previously tried to do it diplomatically when Yanukovych was in power as they were close. •When the Ukrainian people revolted in 2014 and forced Yanukovych out, Putin seized his moment and took control of some Eastern, Russian friendly parts of Ukraine, going back on their agreement that was made when the SU broke up. •Russia moving into Ukraine forced them to turn to NATO for protection which further angered Putin. •Their appointment of Zelenskyy and their edging closer to NATO membership sealed in Putins mind that he could only gain control of Ukraine through force so sought assurances from NATO that they would deny them membership as invading them afterwards would be mental. •Having been denied his demands, Putin has decided that now is the best time to invade given the current political landscape. That being Europe's distrust with the US after Trumps administration, the EU and UK at odds, a new German chancellor and upcoming French elections. If I'm wrong, don't hesitate to tell me. I'm just trying to be less ignorant. 2
casablancas Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 2 minutes ago, Scotch said: Ok so my understanding of what has lead to this conflict is shaky so I've been trying to read up and get a basic understanding. This is what I've taken from it, could someone please confirm or deny I'm in the ball park as well as adding anything critical I've missed... •When the Soviet Union broke up, Ukraine held most of their Nuclear arsenal so in exchange for assurances that they wouldn't invade them, they handed them over to Russia. •Putin wants to put as much of the SU back together as possible and is targeting Ukraine and had previously tried to do it diplomatically when Yanukovych was in power as they were close. •When the Ukrainian people revolted in 2014 and forced Yanukovych out, Putin seized his moment and took control of some Eastern, Russian friendly parts of Ukraine, going back on their agreement that was made when the SU broke up. •Russia moving into Ukraine forced them to turn to NATO for protection which further angered Putin. •Their appointment of Zelenskyy and their edging closer to NATO membership sealed in Putins mind that he could only gain control of Ukraine through force so sought assurances from NATO that they would deny them membership as invading them afterwards would be mental. •Having been denied his demands, Putin has decided that now is the best time to invade given the current political landscape. That being Europe's distrust with the US after Trumps administration, the EU and UK at odds, a new German chancellor and upcoming French elections. If I'm wrong, don't hesitate to tell me. I'm just trying to be less ignorant. It’s a big part of it. There’s also wealth in Ukraine. Natural resources etc. But you’ve made some astute points and I think you’re right in highlighting Trump and out part in this. 1
Parafox Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 2 minutes ago, Guesty said: But the government match every donation (up to 20 million). So that doubles your £1 to £2. I don't know what they do in a crisis like this tbh. I know that from working for a charity, that the Gov gives an additional 25% of the sale value of every gift aided donation, whatever that may be. So we sell a thing for £1 that's a gift aided item, we get an additional 25p in however that comes, maybe tax relief. I don't know how it actually works. And that 25% comes out of our taxes, hence why you have to be a UK taxpayer to sign up.
st albans fox Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 12 minutes ago, casablancas said: It’s not on sky now. It won’t be - it’s only available via internet but that’s not because of U.K. authority decision 1
Pliskin Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 15 minutes ago, Scotch said: Ok so my understanding of what has lead to this conflict is shaky so I've been trying to read up and get a basic understanding. This is what I've taken from it, could someone please confirm or deny I'm in the ball park as well as adding anything critical I've missed... •When the Soviet Union broke up, Ukraine held most of their Nuclear arsenal so in exchange for assurances that they wouldn't invade them, they handed them over to Russia. •Putin wants to put as much of the SU back together as possible and is targeting Ukraine and had previously tried to do it diplomatically when Yanukovych was in power as they were close. •When the Ukrainian people revolted in 2014 and forced Yanukovych out, Putin seized his moment and took control of some Eastern, Russian friendly parts of Ukraine, going back on their agreement that was made when the SU broke up. •Russia moving into Ukraine forced them to turn to NATO for protection which further angered Putin. •Their appointment of Zelenskyy and their edging closer to NATO membership sealed in Putins mind that he could only gain control of Ukraine through force so sought assurances from NATO that they would deny them membership as invading them afterwards would be mental. •Having been denied his demands, Putin has decided that now is the best time to invade given the current political landscape. That being Europe's distrust with the US after Trumps administration, the EU and UK at odds, a new German chancellor and upcoming French elections. If I'm wrong, don't hesitate to tell me. I'm just trying to be less ignorant. I think this is pretty much it. I spoke to someone, just the other day who thought Putin literally woke up one morning and fancied a war. There’s a lot of political history to this situation, and like you’ve correctly highlighted, Putin has taken his opportunity to pounce. 1 1
bovril Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 1 hour ago, Scotch said: Ok so my understanding of what has lead to this conflict is shaky so I've been trying to read up and get a basic understanding. This is what I've taken from it, could someone please confirm or deny I'm in the ball park as well as adding anything critical I've missed... •When the Soviet Union broke up, Ukraine held most of their Nuclear arsenal so in exchange for assurances that they wouldn't invade them, they handed them over to Russia. Never give up your nukes, Scotch 1
BKLFox Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 1 hour ago, MPH said: call me victor Meldrew but It feels like the government is turning into into some gameshow donate-athon thing doing a matching pound for pound donation. And I sincerely hope the UK donated more than £20m to the rebuilding of Ukraine They have MPH, £220m directly thus far 👍 1
David Hankey Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 One thing we have learnt in all of this is that Putin does not like opposition whether that be from the West or his own people. Any Russian opposing him is being detained, locked up for 15 years or worse. This oppressor needs sorting out. Surely out of a population 140M there is a cohort of people who can oust him.
Scotch Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 58 minutes ago, bovril said: Never give up your nukes, Scotch They're naw even ours! We're just "holding on to them for a pal". I'm Scottish and I don't even trust the Scottish with the button! That's one bottle of Buckfast away from disaster.
The whole world smiles Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 https://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/ukraine/2022/03/putin-is-running-out-of-options Found this article in the new statesman very interesting and quite reassuring. Well worth a read from a point of veiw of how did we get here and how will it end. 1
Ian Nacho Posted 3 March 2022 Posted 3 March 2022 51 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: I would assume this is more because the bank doesn’t want to lend when they’re at high risk of not getting it back. 2
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