Shane Posted 9 April 2022 Posted 9 April 2022 On 07/04/2022 at 17:45, An Sionnach said: Well we played Mendy, Tielemans, KDH and Maddison in the last match . You can call it what you like of course but it seemed that way to me. On 08/04/2022 at 12:13, Deeg67 said: Exactly. I know all the cool kids hate the diamond. But a diamond of Maddison, Praet, KDH and Ndidi could be a formidable and really well-balanced midfield. Especially if you sign a true RW who can give you some attacking width on that side. This formation does seem to suit a lot of our players. Madueke and De Ketelaere also fit perfectly into this system. Brendan played the diamond with Liverpool & Madueke could play in a free role, similar to how Sterling was utilised. 1
An Sionnach Posted 9 April 2022 Posted 9 April 2022 2 minutes ago, Shane said: This formation does seem to suit a lot of our players. Madueke and De Ketelaere also fit perfectly into this system. Brendan played the diamond with Liverpool & Madueke could play in a free role, similar to how Sterling was utilised. You have to think outside the box with this formation. The front two need to float about from wide to central and the CAM needs to contribute goals and assists (which Maddison does). The great benefit is the full backs are covered by the two wider midfield men. KDH and Tielemans have been doing that and it helps nullify the opponents wide threat.
Shane Posted 9 April 2022 Posted 9 April 2022 Just now, An Sionnach said: You have to think outside the box with this formation. The front two need to float about from wide to central and the CAM needs to contribute goals and assists (which Maddison does). The great benefit is the full backs are covered by the two wider midfield men. KDH and Tielemans have been doing that and it helps nullify the opponents wide threat. Absolutely. I think the home game Vs Liverpool was a perfect example of this with Choudhury and KDH’s relentless work rate at RCM / LCM to nullify Liverpools threat on the flanks. If we sign Madueke/CDK maybe we could replace Tielemans with a box to box midfielder. 1
Nicolo Barella Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 Would be happy to keep Praet for next season to see how a Dewsbury-Hall/ Mendy/Praet midfield would work out, if Torino are unwilling to fork over the agreed upon sum. 1
RowlattsFox Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 Praet and Dewsbury-Hall either side of a in-form Ndidi could work pretty well. Could be our Tielemans replacement after-all. Problem that formation doesn't allow Maddison to play where he wants too, and will be forced to play from the right.
LVFox Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 Ndidi/KDH/Maddison as a midfield 3 with Praet/Mendy/Soumare as backup would be absolutely fine by me next season. I worry that Rodgers just isn't having him though. 3
dbtcity Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 1 minute ago, RowlattsFox said: Praet and Dewsbury-Hall either side of a in-form Ndidi could work pretty well. Could be our Tielemans replacement after-all. Problem that formation doesn't allow Maddison to play where he wants too, and will be forced to play from the right. Was a concern of mine once we switched to the 433 as I didn’t think he had it in him to be anything other than a number 10 but the last few weeks he’s actually looked brilliant on the right… his work rate/fitness levels have looked another level recently plus he’s tracking back and getting stuck in… potentially helps having attacking full backs available as he doesn’t have to stay out wide and is seemingly given quite a lot of freedom when we’re attacking 1
RowlattsFox Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 4 minutes ago, dbtcity said: Was a concern of mine once we switched to the 433 as I didn’t think he had it in him to be anything other than a number 10 but the last few weeks he’s actually looked brilliant on the right… his work rate/fitness levels have looked another level recently plus he’s tracking back and getting stuck in… potentially helps having attacking full backs available as he doesn’t have to stay out wide and is seemingly given quite a lot of freedom when we’re attacking Yeah having Justin at full back is a massive help to Maddison when playing from the right, means he doesn't have to provide width and can roam a bit. 1
An Sionnach Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 21 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said: Praet and Dewsbury-Hall either side of a in-form Ndidi could work pretty well. Could be our Tielemans replacement after-all. Problem that formation doesn't allow Maddison to play where he wants too, and will be forced to play from the right. With the diamond not a problem , Maddison as CAM and the strikers L&R channel.
sacreblueits442 Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 5 hours ago, RowlattsFox said: Praet and Dewsbury-Hall either side of a in-form Ndidi could work pretty well. Could be our Tielemans replacement after-all. Problem that formation doesn't allow Maddison to play where he wants too, and will be forced to play from the right. ....that cannot continue forever, how long will Maddison keep playing in a position that does not allow him to genuinely express himself in games!!! 4-3-3 at this moment makes us solid and it works without Maddison in his proper place. 4-2-3-1 allows players in their right positions and no doubt makes them enjoy the play more. Should we have De Ketelaere he would work upfont as he is flexible in his game, RW and #10 role will be catered for, the only problem would be a two in the midfield, but if we continue to play a highline that is not so much a problem. 1
Dahnsouff Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 5 hours ago, An Sionnach said: With the diamond not a problem , Maddison as CAM and the strikers L&R channel. Bye bye Harvey
An Sionnach Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 14 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Bye bye Harvey Personally I consider Barnes to be striker but with the ability to go wide when play dictates same goes really for Vardy, Daka and Lookman. Only Kelechi is more of traditional central type but he drifts wide right as well. 1
An Sionnach Posted 12 April 2022 Posted 12 April 2022 When you look at Liverpool only Firmino seems to operate down the centre principally. Mane ,Salah and Jota turn up right across the front. Man City's attackers (apart from Mahrez) are also very mobile. It seems to be the style of the moment. The Van Nistelroy type are out of fashion even Kane is often moving wide . Few teams possess high class headers of a ball in attack these days and strikers have to be mobile.
Deebhoy Posted 19 April 2022 Posted 19 April 2022 Praet is a decent player but too injury prone. He's been out for Torino for over 2 months now and missed some other games. Scored a few but as only played a handful of games at 90 mins. If there's a clear out in the summer I suspect he'll be near the top of the list. 2
TommyK Posted 19 April 2022 Posted 19 April 2022 Praet will not be here past the summer. BR doesn't rate him and to be honest I'm not sure he's good enough. 1
An Sionnach Posted 19 April 2022 Posted 19 April 2022 Dennis has played 150 club games at the top level as well as his international appearances , if he wasn't good enough he would have been found out by now. He was a victim of Rodgers's inconsistent midfield tactics which meant he was competing with Tielemans for a starting eleven place and that was an unfair contest . It probably wouldn't be now though. 2
LFox99 Posted 27 April 2022 Posted 27 April 2022 Got a tidy assist against Atalanta today, basically did all the work and then squared it for a tap in If we really are after Bremer, who according to some Serie A enthusiasts I know is one of the leagues best players this season apparently, then whats to stop us including Praet in a deal where we add some money on top and get Bremer in exchange 4
moore_94 Posted 29 April 2022 Author Posted 29 April 2022 https://football-italia.net/torino-and-leicester-city-consider-plan-b-for-praets-transfer/ We are talking with Torino about what happens next Torino are wanting to lower the asking price We are offering a loan for another year that has an obligation to buy for €12-13m 1
NYC Fox Fan Posted 29 April 2022 Posted 29 April 2022 1 hour ago, moore_94 said: https://football-italia.net/torino-and-leicester-city-consider-plan-b-for-praets-transfer/ We are talking with Torino about what happens next Torino are wanting to lower the asking price We are offering a loan for another year that has an obligation to buy for €12-13m Option C is Torino wait until is contract expires
CrispinLA in Texas Posted 29 April 2022 Posted 29 April 2022 On 27/04/2022 at 20:54, LFox99 said: Got a tidy assist against Atalanta today, basically did all the work and then squared it for a tap in If we really are after Bremer, who according to some Serie A enthusiasts I know is one of the leagues best players this season apparently, then whats to stop us including Praet in a deal where we add some money on top and get Bremer in exchange Afew EPL clubs interested in Bremer including Spurs and Arsenal. We got a upper hand as they want Praet permanently. If there's no future for Praet here....let's get in talks early and do some kind of deal .....pay 10 to 15m for Bremer and they can have Praet. 1
moore_94 Posted 16 May 2022 Author Posted 16 May 2022 Hopefully we play hardball over this, either use him in part of a deal for Bremer or get a permanent deal agreed (either this summer or next) http://sportwitness.co.uk/sort-ultimatum-club-trying-pressure-leicester-city-transfer-deal/ ‘A sort of ultimatum’ – Club trying to pressure Leicester City over transfer deal According to Torino Granata, the Italian club have made ‘a sort of ultimatum’ to the Foxes, telling them they want a deal agreed quickly so Praet can begin preseason training with Torino. They want to pressure Leicester so they don’t ‘hesitate’ on agreeing the deal. Praet has a contract with the Premier League side until 2024, so whilst another loan is possible there’s a likelihood Brendan Rodgers’ side will this time seek a purchase obligation rather than option. At this stage, it’s not really Torino’s role to making ultimatums to anyone. 2
mozartfox Posted 16 May 2022 Posted 16 May 2022 Why do Italian and Turkish Clubs take the p*ss? Tell them to go do one if they do not agree to an obligation to buy. I bet they do not pay 100% of his wages.
Ironman Posted 16 May 2022 Posted 16 May 2022 Is this a repeat of the Luther Blisset/ John Barnes gaffe by AC Milan. Maybe we bought the programme seller by mistake
Supergray22 Posted 16 May 2022 Posted 16 May 2022 On 12/04/2022 at 19:50, An Sionnach said: When you look at Liverpool only Firmino seems to operate down the centre principally. Mane ,Salah and Jota turn up right across the front. Man City's attackers (apart from Mahrez) are also very mobile. It seems to be the style of the moment. The Van Nistelroy type are out of fashion even Kane is often moving wide . Few teams possess high class headers of a ball in attack these days and strikers have to be mobile. It is the fashion at the moment with the top clubs but you need the players and followers tend to be a pale imitation unless you add to it with your own spin and identity. Sometimes the best formations that fits your team are just found through trialing or through adversity. Always good to have a few alternatives up the sleeve. I think we have improved in this aspect.
st albans fox Posted 16 May 2022 Posted 16 May 2022 33 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Why do Italian and Turkish Clubs take the p*ss? Tell them to go do one if they do not agree to an obligation to buy. I bet they do not pay 100% of his wages. I guarantee they won’t pay all of his wages neither should they we bought him and agreed a contract on at least 80k/week that’s our problem ……. 1
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