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1 hour ago, The whole world smiles said:

I have always been very pro union FS you can check my post history if you can be arsed but some things have been really irritating me and some of the blokes I go with lately.

 

- one minute you are singing "through the good time and the bad, we'll always back the lads" The next minute they are singing "we're fuching shit" And hurling abuse at the players when they come over at the end. They do this without a hint of irony. 

 

- the rudkin out/sack the board stuff is totally and utterly toothless and is going to achieve absolutely naff all. All it does is add to the toxic feeling in the ground and divide the fan base see last night for an example, which by the way wasn't just one bloke lots of older blokes around me shouting at them getting fed up with it. All this is making the ground a dream to visit for away teams. 

 

- the rudkin out/sack the board stuff seems to be very results dependant you don't here a peep when we are on a How strong can the feeling be if it's pacified by a scrappy 2-1 win at home to stoke? Comes across as whiny and reactionary rather than a genuine movement to inact change. 

 

Be careful they don’t like ANY criticism 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Skid_1884 said:

Be careful they don’t like ANY criticism 

What? Any time I’ve ever raised any concerns re: UFS, their members always been incredibly respectful to me. 

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1 hour ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

Come on then, what would you propose as the better way to approach a show of discontent?

 

I’d also be interested to know if you believe that Rudkin should go? And that the board needs changing?

 

It feels like a lot of people who don’t like the chanting, or who use UFS as a target, actually just don’t want change and can’t see where the problems exist.

 

But often when pushed to explain why they feel that way fluffy nonsense like “what the family has done for us” (inability to distinguish between Vichai’s era and Top’s era) or “we’ve always been a second tier side” (inability to see that we had an opportunity with becoming one of the top 20 richest clubs in the world to change that for good) or “PSR is the real problem” (inability to see that every other club is subject to the same rules and we’re the only ones falling foul of them and unable to work with them) is all that comes back.


I’d love to understand a long, detailed and evidenced explanation of why we don’t need change or should have faith in this ownership anymore. You’ve popped your head above the parapet to show a bit of resistance to the calls for change so I’m genuinely intrigued to hear why if you’ll share?

 

If I’ve read you wrong, and you do see the problems and that a change is required, I’d be interested to hear how not voicing this in the stadium and clapping the players regardless of their performances would help achieve that change.

You forgot the good old ‘careful what you wish for’, without the slightest sense of irony that what they think they are referring to, is actually happening now!

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I covered the subject of ripping down banners and wading in with fists flailing in Chapter 3 of my bestselling book, ‘How to win arguments and influence people.’

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2 hours ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

As a group we know we are a target. If someone is pissed off with the section or a chant being started they aren't going to walk up to a random person and kick off. They will see a big group and target them (even if not the culprit). By being in a group it is much easier to be targeted.

 

Personally think we have handled most situations well recently (yesterday's event is not the only time abuse is hurled at us). Fully aware we are not everyone's cup of tea but we do what we do and that won't change. Join in or just ignore us. Both are good. Getting physical and constantly abusing the group is pretty low life and desperate.

 

On many occasions we have stated that we will talk and have chats to people. That guy yesterday could have come up and had a normal chat raising his points and we could have discussed (preferably at HT and not in the middle of the game though). Worst case we disagree and carry on as normal.

The only thing yesterday was reacting to (the aggressive guy) and walking out. If he's kicking off at you get the phone out and video it. Stick it on socials and show everyone who's in the wrong. By walking out it doesn't look like a show of solidarity it looks petulant. Easy to say it afterwards but these KPFC babies act like they're in the right and were being personally abused.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Bert said:

Don’t agree with what happened, does anyone think it’s normal to fight one of our own? 
 

Disagree with them all you like, but do it in a grown up manner. 
 

Union FS may not be everyone’s cup of tea but they’re only doing what they feel is the right way to improve the atmosphere at games, whilst having a good time with their mates. Does that deserve abuse like they received last night?
 

Absolutely not. 

Agreed. And you have idiots like this on social media trying to stir up more shit. Someone who probably wasn’t even at the game spreading lies. 

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No one can think the club is well run or that mistakes arent being made.

No one... including Top.

 

It is not unreasonable to ask  what Top is going to do.... if he does nothing then he can expect critisism.

 

Anyone think his current response is good enough?

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I wasn't at the game (I was working) however what I will say is that everytime and I mean everytime I've been to a game over the last few seasons UFS and the singing section have genuinely been one of the highlights for me trying to cheer the boys on no matter what the performance is like

 

i genuinely applaud them and want them and the singing section to grow and continue to support this great club we all love as loud and as proud as possible 

 

I can't quite get my head around blue on blue violence - no problem with disagreeing with each other that can quite often be a good thing as we will not always agree on everything quite clearly and healthy discussion and disagreeing isn't an issue 

 

positive support both for the players and the club generally is needed but they (the club) also need to be held accountable for things that have clearly gone wrong in recent seasons 

 

therefore personally I heartily agree with our fanbase questioning KP and the future investment etc - they should be getting further investment or sell up 

 

we all get the emotional attachment to the family of Khun Vichai and we will never forget that, however time has moved on now and Top needs to shape up or do the right thing and sell up

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35 minutes ago, Bert said:

Don’t agree with what happened, does anyone think it’s normal to fight one of our own? 
 

Disagree with them all you like, but do it in a grown up manner. 
 

Union FS may not be everyone’s cup of tea but they’re only doing what they feel is the right way to improve the atmosphere at games, whilst having a good time with their mates. Does that deserve abuse like they received last night?
 

Absolutely not. 

I know its modern times and all that, but as someone who first started going to games in the 1970s, and was going away everywhere during the 80s and onwards, i`ve lost count of the amount of times ive seen Leicester fight with Leicester over the years.

On trains, in pubs, on streets and in the ground, its nothing new.

I`m sure other clubs get it too. 

In fact in the 1970s, the council estates used to fight each other in the Kop, then all be together later fighting away fans!

They even used to make bonfires in the kop on a freezing day, and i`m` not even kidding!

The little spat last night was handbags really.

 

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1 hour ago, smudger63 said:

I know its modern times and all that, but as someone who first started going to games in the 1970s, and was going away everywhere during the 80s and onwards, i`ve lost count of the amount of times ive seen Leicester fight with Leicester over the years.

On trains, in pubs, on streets and in the ground, its nothing new.

I`m sure other clubs get it too. 

In fact in the 1970s, the council estates used to fight each other in the Kop, then all be together later fighting away fans!

They even used to make bonfires in the kop on a freezing day, and i`m` not even kidding!

The little spat last night was handbags really.

 

For possibly the most passive fan base in the country, we’re really good at fighting each other. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, smudger63 said:

The fan base never used to be passive towards the runnning of the club to be fair,, that is definitely a modern thing. 

This is true. I was a young teenager during the Pleat era and I remember the fan base being quite vociferous back then, and it’s way worse now on reflection. 

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