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Group B: England, Iran, USA, Wales

By Mark, in General Football and Sport

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Manley Farrington-Brown

Manley Farrington-Brown

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1 minute ago, Foxdiamond said:

By the way what has any of this to do with football

Well it was you what quoted a footballer saying he wanted to beat England.

 

2 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

or the England of today?

I refer you to the air of arrogant superiority that some people find annoying. According to some people, traces of that can still be found.

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Foxdiamond

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3 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said:

Well it was you what quoted a footballer saying he wanted to beat England.

 

I refer you to the air of arrogant superiority that some people find annoying. According to some people, traces of that can still be found.

Yes, an English born player that plays in England. Arrogance is not exclusive to English people. Imagine a Welsh born player playing for a Welsh team but also for England said same. Was not about Wales winning but knocking England out.

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Manley Farrington-Brown

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1 minute ago, Foxdiamond said:

Yes, an English born player that plays in England. Arrogance is not exclusive to English people. Imagine a Welsh born player playing for a Welsh team but also for England said same. Was not about Wales winning but knocking England out.

I take your point, just saying there are reasons...

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leicsmac

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2 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

I tend to think it is better to express love for your team or country rather to imply dislike of another. 

Unfortunately, the latter being expressed as a form of the former has been a thing throughout human history. As well as acting upon the sentiment.

 

Believe me, I wish it weren't the case.

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3 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

I see Kieffer Moore has been quoted as " cant wait to score goal that knocks England out" Rather scoring goal that takes Wales into next round. Imagine if an England player said something similar about Wales etc

 

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AllGoneTitsSchlupp

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23 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

I see Kieffer Moore has been quoted as " cant wait to score goal that knocks England out" Rather scoring goal that takes Wales into next round. Imagine if an England player said something similar about Wales etc

best part is that he was born in torquay

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Finnegan

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20 hours ago, Foxdiamond said:

Bit like harping on about Germany or the Spanish in South America.

 

Also, this bit when the English still consider Germany and Argentina two of their biggest rivals that they'd "love to batter" - singing about bombers and air raids and fvck knows what else - I just can't even lol

 

Are you on the troll mun?

 

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Aus Fox

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1 minute ago, davieG said:

England, Wales and other European nations will not wear the OneLove armband at the World Cup in Qatar because of the threat of players being booked.

Just read that if the players wear the OneLove armband they could be booked in the game. This can’t be right surely? Under what law of the game is this a booking?

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17 minutes ago, Aus Fox said:

Just read that if the players wear the OneLove armband they could be booked in the game. This can’t be right surely? Under what law of the game is this a booking?

 



5. Slogans, statements, images and advertising

Equipment must not have any political, religious or personal slogans, statements or images. Players must not reveal undergarments that show political, religious, personal slogans, statements or images, or advertising other than the manufacturer's logo. For any offence the player and/or the team will be sanctioned by the competition organiser, national football association or by FIFA.

Principles
  • Law 4 applies to all equipment (including clothing) worn by players, substitutes and substituted players; it's principles also apply to all team officials in the technical area
  • The following are (usually) permitted:
    • the player's number, name, team crest/logo, initiative slogans/emblems promoting the game of football, respect and integrity as well as any advertising permitted by competition rules or national FA, confederation or FIFA regulations
    • the facts of a match: teams, date, competition/event, venue
  • Permitted slogans, statements or images should be confined to the shirt front and/or armband
  • In some cases, the slogan, statement or image might only appear on the captain's armband

Interpreting the Law

When interpreting whether a slogan, statement or image is permissible, note should be taken of Law 12 (Fouls and Misconduct), which requires the referee to take action against a player who is guilty of:

  • using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or action(s)
  • acting in a provocative, derisory or inflammatory way

Any slogan, statement or image which falls into any of these categories is not permitted.

Whilst 'religious' and 'personal' are relatively easily defined, 'political' is less clear but slogans, statements or images related to the following are not permitted:

  • any person(s), living or dead (unless part of the official competition name)
  • any local, regional, national or international political party/organisation/group, etc.
  • any local, regional or national government or any of its departments, offices or functions
  • any organisation which is discriminatory
  • any organisation whose aims/actions are likely to offend a notable number of people
  • any specific political act/event

When commemorating a significant national or international event, the sensibilities of the opposing team (including its supporters) and the general public should be carefully considered.

Competition rules may contain further restrictions/limitations, particularly in relation to the size, number and position of permitted slogans, statements and images. It is recommended that disputes relating to slogans, statements or images be resolved prior to a match/competition taking place.

6. Offences and sanctions

For any offence play need not be stopped and the player:

  • is instructed by the referee to leave the field of play to correct the equipment
  • leaves when play stops, unless the equipment has already been corrected

A player who leaves the field of play to correct or change equipment must:

  • have the equipment checked by a match official before being allowed to re-enter
  • only re-enter with the referee’s permission (which may be given during play)

A player who enters without permission must be cautioned and if play is stopped to issue the caution, an indirect free kick is awarded from the position of the ball when play was stopped, unless there was interference in which case a direct free kick (or penalty kick) is awarded from the position of the interference.

 

 

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Finnegan

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To TLDR the above: 

 

The ref can yellow card a player who re-enters the field of play after being instructed to remove a garment that has political, religious, personal slogans or non-sanctioned advertising on.

 

So essentially, the refs will tell the captains to remove the armbands straight away, presumably they'll refuse and step on the pitch anyway and then they'll be booked. 

 

Obviously the depressing part is that wearing an armband saying "one love" with a rainbow on it is considered "political" but that's 2020 for you.

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fazzyfox

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Just read an article expressing the problem with Kane getting a yellow is that he'd also get one in the next game and miss the Wales game suspended. How about alternating captains in that case. I would suggest the goalkeepers but Pickford has a rash challenge in him and Pope takes so long with his goal kicks you can go for a loo break and not miss it, but the point is it doesn't have to be Kane twice. On the other hand what better way to stand up to the bull than go through with it, take it on the (rather long) chin and let the worldwide audience have it as a talking point.

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Daggers

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2 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

That there is an Anglo Saxon of the ancient Kingdom of Hwice. 

 

Nothing at all like the proud Dumnonii Kieffer Moore. 

"We were talking earlier about Dostoyevsky weren't we? Yeah, Theodore Michaelovich..."

 

 

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