Footballwipe Posted 5 May 2023 Posted 5 May 2023 13 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: How can we not have a place for 24-48 hours to even discuss the local elections? Just let it run for 48 hours then delete the topic once all results are in etc. It's rubbish, but tbh it's a reflection on the absolute numbskulls on this forum who can't turn a thread into a political slanging match for a short period of time. If you've been on here for any length of time you know how politics talk goes on here. Keep your trap shut for one measly day so we can discuss the changes/results in our local areas. Dimwits. 1
bovril Posted 5 May 2023 Posted 5 May 2023 35 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: How can we not have a place for 24-48 hours to even discuss the local elections? Just let it run for 48 hours then delete the topic once all results are in etc. It was the Norfolk hate. Requested that it was shut down.
Popular Post Zear0 Posted 5 May 2023 Popular Post Posted 5 May 2023 30 minutes ago, bovril said: It was the Norfolk hate. Requested that it was shut down. Impossible to compete with keyboard warriors with that many fingers 7
Wymsey Posted 5 May 2023 Author Posted 5 May 2023 Do you want a bigger shovel to dig the big hole of yours, Donald?.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65504435
leicsmac Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 3 hours ago, Wymsey said: Do you want a bigger shovel to dig the big hole of yours, Donald?.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65504435 And yet the "family values" evangelicals will still vote for him if/when the time comes. Flyover rural USA is full of hypocrisy, on this and other matters, and it hurts a lot of decent people.
marbles Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 2 hours ago, leicsmac said: And yet the "family values" evangelicals will still vote for him if/when the time comes. Flyover rural USA is full of hypocrisy, on this and other matters, and it hurts a lot of decent people. The voters didn’t care about the sexual escapades of JFK or Bill Clinton - they certainly won’t care now
leicsmac Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 1 hour ago, marbles said: The voters didn’t care about the sexual escapades of JFK or Bill Clinton - they certainly won’t care now That's definitely true. Though I'm pretty sure all such escapades were consensual and as a result didn't end up in direct criminal court, whereas this one did? (Clinton got impeached for bullshitting about it, not for the act itself, after all.)
ozleicester Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 4 minutes ago, leicsmac said: That's definitely true. Though I'm pretty sure all such escapades were consensual and as a result didn't end up in direct criminal court, whereas this one did? (Clinton got impeached for bullshitting about it, not for the act itself, after all.) Im not sure the 50 year old president of the USA, asking for and getting sexual favours from a 21 year old intern can be considered consensual.
leicsmac Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 3 minutes ago, ozleicester said: Im not sure the 50 year old president of the USA, asking for and getting sexual favours from a 21 year old intern can be considered consensual. Given the obvious power imbalance, it's a fair point. But it is still dubious consent rather than flat out nonconsensual as is being alleged in the current trial. There is a difference there IMO.
marbles Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 1 hour ago, leicsmac said: That's definitely true. Though I'm pretty sure all such escapades were consensual and as a result didn't end up in direct criminal court, whereas this one did? (Clinton got impeached for bullshitting about it, not for the act itself, after all.) Clinton was accused of rape. There were also accusations of it while he was still governor of Arkansas So no No difference. 1
leicsmac Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 17 minutes ago, marbles said: Clinton was accused of rape. There were also accusations of it while he was still governor of Arkansas So no No difference. Did he actually end up in a courtroom regarding it? And were there multiple such incidences? I guess even if this were a case of "equal filth on both sides" the actual policies espoused by both parties are different, meaningful and actionable anyway.
marbles Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 Just now, leicsmac said: Did he actually end up in a courtroom regarding it? And were there multiple such incidences? I guess even if this were a case of "equal filth on both sides" the actual policies espoused by both parties are different, meaningful and actionable anyway. Just because it didn’t go to trial, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Not sure what you consider “multiple”, but 4 women have come forward accusing Clinton of things from sexual harassment to rape. There are reports that the number could be as high as 12 women. 1
leicsmac Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 11 minutes ago, marbles said: Just because it didn’t go to trial, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Not sure what you consider “multiple”, but 4 women have come forward accusing Clinton of things from sexual harassment to rape. There are reports that the number could be as high as 12 women. Certainly. Still a difference, though. Anyhow, I guess we'll see how this all turns out. 1
Captain... Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 42 minutes ago, marbles said: Just because it didn’t go to trial, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Not sure what you consider “multiple”, but 4 women have come forward accusing Clinton of things from sexual harassment to rape. There are reports that the number could be as high as 12 women. Did this come out before or after he was President?
Jon the Hat Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 1 hour ago, Captain... said: Did this come out before or after he was President? It was certainly know in the democrat circles. They just didn’t care back then.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 (edited) Over 1000 seats lost for the Tories at the local elections, bit of a kicking. EDIT: Apologies hadn’t realised we’d got the LE thread back. Edited 6 May 2023 by Leicester_Loyal
marbles Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 1 hour ago, Captain... said: Did this come out before or after he was President? There were allegations while he was governor. It started coming out during the Lewinsky ordeal - which was during his presidency. The rape allegation didn’t hit until after he was out of office, but supposedly took place before he was President
Captain... Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 27 minutes ago, marbles said: There were allegations while he was governor. It started coming out during the Lewinsky ordeal - which was during his presidency. The rape allegation didn’t hit until after he was out of office, but supposedly took place before he was President I think that is the big difference in saying how voters will react to these accusations. Clinton's came out after his presidency so the voters didn't get a chance for it to be an issue. Right now Trump is trying to be elected with, amongst other things, a number of serious accusations of sexual assault. If he loses this civil case, he wouldn't be convicted of a crime, but it would surely hurt his chances even amongst the due hard fans. At some point some of them have realise there is so much shit not all of it can be true.
leicsmac Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 5 minutes ago, Captain... said: I think that is the big difference in saying how voters will react to these accusations. Clinton's came out after his presidency so the voters didn't get a chance for it to be an issue. Right now Trump is trying to be elected with, amongst other things, a number of serious accusations of sexual assault. If he loses this civil case, he wouldn't be convicted of a crime, but it would surely hurt his chances even amongst the due hard fans. At some point some of them have realise there is so much shit not all of it can be true. I'm not sure this is true. I think a lot of them simply won't care despite the massive hypocrisy, so long as he continues to promise and sometimes deliver to them what they want - guns, God and good old fashioned short term self interest.
urban.spaceman Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 About bloody time, they've had it too good for too long. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65484552
Daggers Posted 6 May 2023 Posted 6 May 2023 13 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: About bloody time, they've had it too good for too long. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65484552 I want to see mice injected with Botox and made to wear that stupid painted on clown eyebrows.
leicsmac Posted 9 May 2023 Posted 9 May 2023 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-65229522 Exhibit 54778954388 of why organised religion setting the rules for society harms people far more than it helps them.
Leicesterpool Posted 9 May 2023 Posted 9 May 2023 Anti monacy protesters arrested I see.... okay so when it comes to road protesters about the environment they don't get arrested yet if you protest at the side against the king its an arrestable offence? Funny how people were disgusted when Russian police were arresting members of the public for protestesting against putin and the Ukraine war... but when it comes to the UK if anyone dares to hold a banner "not my king" people are like yeah bang them up... Democracy eh? 2
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